Current State of USU Basketball

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:01 am

Aggie4L1fe wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 9:54 am
Very very happy if Ian stays

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I'll probably get lambasted for saying this, I'm sure, but I'd probably take having Ian back over getting Great back if I had to choose just because guard play means more in March.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:03 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:01 am

Aggie4L1fe wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 9:54 am
Very very happy if Ian stays

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I'll probably get lambasted for saying this, I'm sure, but I'd probably take having Ian back over getting Great back if I had to choose just because guard play means more in March.

IF Ian can be more consistent, he could be our #1 and be the MWC POY.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:08 am

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OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
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BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
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usufan1 wrote: ↑
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What a roller coaster, but glad to see Martinez back to an extremely high chance of returning!

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@aggies22, could the return of Ian bring Great from EXTREMELY LOW to LOW or even MEDIUM ?? Or is the Ian return a non-factor??
I don't believe it's much of a factor.
Is Jaxon Smith staying? Seems weird he made the cut.
No sense in telling a walk-on you don't need him. Plus he's a good enough shooter that he can provide good scout team play.

Got it. Thought he was a scholarship guy.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:09 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:01 am

Aggie4L1fe wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 9:54 am
Very very happy if Ian stays

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I'll probably get lambasted for saying this, I'm sure, but I'd probably take having Ian back over getting Great back if I had to choose just because guard play means more in March.

I don't think that is a bad take. Ian when on was awesome last year. HIs problem was lack of consistency. If he improves upon that he can be a first team all MWC player.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:12 am

Right, when Ian is on, he is brilliant. A Jordan Clarkson-esque scorer with elite athleticism.

Post by **aggies22** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:13 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:12 am
Right, when Ian is on, he is brilliant. A Jordan Clarkson-esque scorer with elite athleticism.

Dude can get his shot anytime he wants. He deferred a LOT last year.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:24 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:13 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:12 am
Right, when Ian is on, he is brilliant. A Jordan Clarkson-esque scorer with elite athleticism.
Dude can get his shot anytime he wants. He deferred a LOT last year.

That's what I observed. He almost over-deferred; he seemed frustrated when he did so and we didn't score. He's a talented player. I'd love to have him back.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:24 am

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:09 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:01 am

Aggie4L1fe wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 9:54 am
Very very happy if Ian stays

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I'll probably get lambasted for saying this, I'm sure, but I'd probably take having Ian back over getting Great back if I had to choose just because guard play means more in March.
I don't think that is a bad take. Ian when on was awesome last year. HIs problem was lack of consistency. If he improves upon that he can be a first team all MWC player.

If he improves his consistency he is a second round draft pick.

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am

It was hard for a lot of guys to get in a rhythm last year. Just stand around and watch Great. I think Josh and Ian have a lot of potential to improve with more movement and freedom with the ball.

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » April 22nd, 2024, 11:38 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:13 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:12 am
Right, when Ian is on, he is brilliant. A Jordan Clarkson-esque scorer with elite athleticism.
Dude can get his shot anytime he wants. He deferred a LOT last year.

That’s what I thought as well. When Brown and/or Great were off the floor, he would take over games.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:13 pm

Ian is awesome, he had a few slump games, but he himself can have a 10-0 run and force a timeout.

Nobody was that much of a x-Factor since Sam Merrill in my opinion.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am
It was hard for a lot of guys to get in a rhythm last year. Just stand around and watch Great. I think Josh and Ian have a lot of potential to improve with more movement and freedom with the ball.

It was noted several times during national broadcast games, including the TCU game, that our offense was going stagnant and I do think it was due to the hyperfocus on getting Great touches. So yeah, I expect much better offensive opportunities for Mason, Ian, and Josh.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:44 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am
It was hard for a lot of guys to get in a rhythm last year. Just stand around and watch Great. I think Josh and Ian have a lot of potential to improve with more movement and freedom with the ball.
It was noted several times during national broadcast games, including the TCU game, that our offense was going stagnant and I do think it was due to the hyperfocus on getting Great touches. So yeah, I expect much better offensive opportunities for Mason, Ian, and Josh.

The main problem, IMO, was we had limited outside shooting threats. So they could pack it in on Great and not worry about leaving a guy open on the 3 point line. If you had 3 or 4 shooters surrounding Great, he'd cook winning a ton of 1 on 1 battles.

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:48 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am
It was hard for a lot of guys to get in a rhythm last year. Just stand around and watch Great. I think Josh and Ian have a lot of potential to improve with more movement and freedom with the ball.
It was noted several times during national broadcast games, including the TCU game, that our offense was going stagnant and I do think it was due to the hyperfocus on getting Great touches. So yeah, I expect much better offensive opportunities for Mason, Ian, and Josh.

Everything revolved around Great, which obviously worked but also I think is why we weren't a dominate team. If he was in foul trouble, tired or off, it took one on one heroics of DB and Ian mostly to survive.

This is why I think Great needs to choose wisely his next destination. He had an offense completely built around him this year.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:51 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 12:48 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 11:25 am
It was hard for a lot of guys to get in a rhythm last year. Just stand around and watch Great. I think Josh and Ian have a lot of potential to improve with more movement and freedom with the ball.
It was noted several times during national broadcast games, including the TCU game, that our offense was going stagnant and I do think it was due to the hyperfocus on getting Great touches. So yeah, I expect much better offensive opportunities for Mason, Ian, and Josh.
Everything revolved around Great, which obviously worked but also I think is why we weren't a dominate team. If he was in foul trouble, tired or off, it took one on one heroics of DB and Ian mostly to survive.

This is why I think Great needs to choose wisely his next destination. He had an offense completely built around him this year.

Yup, and this explains why so many of DBs big shots were at the end of the shot clock. I also think we looked better against TCU when we played with Osobor out of the key more often that during the season. I think it took TCU by surprise too.

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » April 22nd, 2024, 12:52 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 12:13 pm
Ian is awesome, he had a few slump games, but he himself can have a 10-0 run and force a timeout.

Nobody was that much of a x-Factor since Sam Merrill in my opinion.

#KillShot

does anyone follow this Evan Miyakawa?

https://blog.evanmiya.com/p/the-power-of-the-10-0-run

ususports · Post by **ususports** » April 22nd, 2024, 1:05 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 4th, 2024, 1:13 pm
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Jackson Grant - MEDIUM chance he stays at Utah State

A little something from SLB's playbook. If you report every possible status, you are going to be correct at least once.

Just messing with you. I know circumstances change, so thanks for keeping us up to date with the most recent status.

Dkdavis · Post by **Dkdavis** » April 22nd, 2024, 2:47 pm

I'm seeing an official post by Martinez!

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » April 22nd, 2024, 2:53 pm

We are one player away from retaining all eligible starters and key backups from last season… you can’t ask for much better than that. Big win by Calhoun, big win by Sabau. Here’s to Osobor making it 100%

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » April 22nd, 2024, 2:59 pm

So current depth chart looks something like this right now?

G) Deyton Albury
G) Ian Martinez
G) Mason Falslev, Josh Uduje
F) Isaac Johnson, Karson Templin
C) Aubin Gateretse

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:01 pm

I feel like we need a backup center and backup primary ballhandler to serve the Javon Jackson role. Then we’re set!

ToastedFlakes52 · Post by **ToastedFlakes52** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:03 pm

Need a lengthy wing who can play defense, imo. Someone in the 6'6 - 6'9 range would be ideal (those guys are few and far between, I know)

ImportAggie · Post by **ImportAggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:03 pm

Aggie37 wrote: ↑
April 21st, 2024, 3:00 pm

ImportAggie wrote: ↑
April 21st, 2024, 1:30 pm
On a positive note - I just ran into Karson Templin at the Dallas airport. We had a short conversation and I got to ask him a few things. He obviously didn’t divulge any crazy info to some guy fan girling in the airport but had some positive things to say to the few questions I asked.

I’m glad I saw him, because I got to tell him I think we’ve just barely scratched the surface on the player he can be and that I think he’s going to be very good for us. I know many have said that here, on X and on Instagram but I wanted to make sure he heard that. There’s always a lot of noise on social media and hopefully he has seen the positive sentiments, but I also hope the words of one fan will stick with him.
Did Templin make any hints about Martinez? If we get him back, then we will essentially have brought back four starters - Falslev, Johnson, Uduje and Martinez. Albury, Gatereste and Templin are already committed as well.

Regardless of all the openings that still need to be filled, we should feel good about going into next season with these seven.

I’ll now speak on this (because no one can say I was wrong hahaha). I will never claim to be some kind of insider, this was probably my one and only moment of any insight.

As I said in a different post, he didn’t tell me
anything with his words, but his body language did (picture some slight nodding and a smile while saying that we’d hear something from Ian very soon)

More than anything — WE ARE SO BACK BABY

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:11 pm

Need more shooting, and a 3-4 long wing that can small ball at the 4 and a back up point.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:11 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 2:53 pm
We are one player away from retaining all eligible starters and key backups from last season… you can’t ask for much better than that. Big win by Calhoun, big win by Sabau. Here’s to Osobor making it 100%

I would include the Blue A Collective as a big player in this as well.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:16 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 3:11 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 2:53 pm
We are one player away from retaining all eligible starters and key backups from last season… you can’t ask for much better than that. Big win by Calhoun, big win by Sabau. Here’s to Osobor making it 100%
I would include the Blue A Collective as a big player in this as well.

I would also include the prophet SLB in this. He called it!

Don't forget the HURD and the teammates.

EngineeringAggie · Post by **EngineeringAggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:16 pm

Anybody know any billionaires that would be willing to just chuck a million dollar offer at Great to see if he will stick around? It’s got to be pretty tempting to stay with your whole entire team returning. Just need that dough though.

Aggiedog58 · Post by **Aggiedog58** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:18 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 3:16 pm
Anybody know any billionaires that would be willing to just chuck a million dollar offer at Great to see if he will stick around? It’s got to be pretty tempting to stay with your whole entire team returning. Just need that dough though.

Start a go fund me. I’d be willing to donate haha

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:19 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 3:16 pm
Anybody know any billionaires that would be willing to just chuck a million dollar offer at Great to see if he will stick around? It’s got to be pretty tempting to stay with your whole entire team returning. Just need that dough though.

No, but we could quadruple student fees.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:23 pm

Current state of USU basketball?

We vibin’ right now, and if by some miracle Great stays, we let em hang and T-bag the entire MW.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 22nd, 2024, 3:45 pm

The 7 players on the roster
6 of the 7 started 10 or more games last season.
3 of the 7 were their first year starting in D1 ball
4 of the 7 had double digit points per game
6 of the 7 had over 6 points or more per game
The 1 that had less than 6 points per game was a true freshman
3 of the 7 shot 34% or better from 3
5 of the 7 shot 47% or better from the field
We have 6 to go on the roster.

SoJo_Aggie · Post by **SoJo_Aggie** » April 22nd, 2024, 4:26 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 3:16 pm
Anybody know any billionaires that would be willing to just chuck a million dollar offer at Great to see if he will stick around? It’s got to be pretty tempting to stay with your whole entire team returning. Just need that dough though.

Hey Governor Cox, rather than spend a few billion on a baseball and hockey arena how about sending some of those state funds to the Land Grant Schools NIL Fund?

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 22nd, 2024, 4:27 pm

Per 30-minute points per game last season starting 5 vs current projected starting 5
23-24 Aggies
Brown 10.3
Osobor 15.8
Martinez 12.9
Falslev 12.1
Johnson 13.3
24-25 projected starting Aggies with 6 to go on the roster
Martinez 12.9
Falslev 12.1
Johnson 13.3
Albury (ASUN) 18.1
Gateretse (ASUN) 14.4

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 22nd, 2024, 5:05 pm

Calhoun ain't (I can't express myself without swearing)' around with this "winning a national championship" stuff.

Aggie37 · Post by **Aggie37** » April 22nd, 2024, 5:09 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 3:11 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
April 22nd, 2024, 2:53 pm
We are one player away from retaining all eligible starters and key backups from last season… you can’t ask for much better than that. Big win by Calhoun, big win by Sabau. Here’s to Osobor making it 100%
I would include the Blue A Collective as a big player in this as well.

The Blue A Collective came through big time. All of our donations are making a difference and Ian retuning is proof!

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