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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Pacobag » June 1st, 2022, 10:39 pm

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I love that he's hell bent on playing in the NBA. No doubt he'll get there. I wish JC had that same attitude instead of settling for a cushy life in Spain.
Jaycee spent three years in NBA training camps. All three times the team he was with tried making him a point guard, completely negating his true talents and skill set. If he'd come out five years later, he probably would have stuck somewhere as the game today really doesn't have pure position expectations anymore.
He’s a 6’1” shooting guard that’s not very athletic, couldn’t guard nor handle the ball. He was never going to make it or stick in the NBA. I freaking love the dude, one of my all time favorites but there aren’t many dudes that are 6’1” that stick in the nba period, let alone ones that are as limited as him in all other aspects of the game besides shooting.

Going to Europe when he did was absolutely the right thing to do. At least imho
Nonsense, JC was a great athlete with a mean cross-over, non-stop motor and serious handles. Just because he was an all-time great shooter doesn't mean he didn't know how to handle a basketball. In fact, he would break guys down off the dribble and make them pay for closing out on him all the time. My favorite move of his was this high arching floter in the lane. He would dunk on occasion which you can't do if you're "not very athletic."

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I honestly can’t tell if you are serious or not.
Great Athlete, serious handles and dunking were characteristics that were NEVER associated with him.
Jaycee was awesome. Amazing scorer, shooter, and well conditioned…. one of my favorite Aggie b-ball players. I believe he had 2-3 total dunks during his 4 year USU career. IMO, for a D1 basketball player, his handles, hops, quickness, and defense were ok but definitely not great.



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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Aglicious » June 2nd, 2022, 12:34 pm

I remember watching highlights and even full games of Jaycee's first few years over seas and actually being bummed about how poorly he was utilized at USU. He was asked to run the point quite a bit in those first years over there and he was very good off the dribble and could create for others and get his own shot whenever he wanted. Before going to Real Madrid, he had displayed that he was a more than capable PG. At USU (and Real Madrid) he was never asked to do those type of things because he was so elite at one thing...shooting. If given the opportunity and a year or two to gain experience at USU, I think Jaycee could have been a pretty unstoppable PG on offense. He did lack some lateral quickness on defense but even that was improved quite a bit over his years as a professional. Unfortunately for him, his scoring and shooting prowess always took precedence because it was so relied upon for the team. I think the team dependence on that part of this game hindered his development of other skills during his time in Logan.

I think people forget how great of an athlete he was. Yes he was an energizer bunny that seemed to never stay still for a moment during 40 min. of play but he was also an amazing leaper and rebounder, especially for his size, an amazing finisher at the rim and decisions maker on the drive while still being super skilled from mid-range and from deep. He remains one of the best shooters I have ever seen at any level of ball.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » June 2nd, 2022, 3:28 pm

Aglicious wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
I remember watching highlights and even full games of Jaycee's first few years over seas and actually being bummed about how poorly he was utilized at USU. He was asked to run the point quite a bit in those first years over there and he was very good off the dribble and could create for others and get his own shot whenever he wanted. Before going to Real Madrid, he had displayed that he was a more than capable PG. At USU (and Real Madrid) he was never asked to do those type of things because he was so elite at one thing...shooting. If given the opportunity and a year or two to gain experience at USU, I think Jaycee could have been a pretty unstoppable PG on offense. He did lack some lateral quickness on defense but even that was improved quite a bit over his years as a professional. Unfortunately for him, his scoring and shooting prowess always took precedence because it was so relied upon for the team. I think the team dependence on that part of this game hindered his development of other skills during his time in Logan.

I think people forget how great of an athlete he was. Yes he was an energizer bunny that seemed to never stay still for a moment during 40 min. of play but he was also an amazing leaper and rebounder, especially for his size, an amazing finisher at the rim and decisions maker on the drive while still being super skilled from mid-range and from deep. He remains one of the best shooters I have ever seen at any level of ball.
Well said. JC had what it took, period.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Elkaggie » June 2nd, 2022, 3:53 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 3:28 pm
Aglicious wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
I remember watching highlights and even full games of Jaycee's first few years over seas and actually being bummed about how poorly he was utilized at USU. He was asked to run the point quite a bit in those first years over there and he was very good off the dribble and could create for others and get his own shot whenever he wanted. Before going to Real Madrid, he had displayed that he was a more than capable PG. At USU (and Real Madrid) he was never asked to do those type of things because he was so elite at one thing...shooting. If given the opportunity and a year or two to gain experience at USU, I think Jaycee could have been a pretty unstoppable PG on offense. He did lack some lateral quickness on defense but even that was improved quite a bit over his years as a professional. Unfortunately for him, his scoring and shooting prowess always took precedence because it was so relied upon for the team. I think the team dependence on that part of this game hindered his development of other skills during his time in Logan.

I think people forget how great of an athlete he was. Yes he was an energizer bunny that seemed to never stay still for a moment during 40 min. of play but he was also an amazing leaper and rebounder, especially for his size, an amazing finisher at the rim and decisions maker on the drive while still being super skilled from mid-range and from deep. He remains one of the best shooters I have ever seen at any level of ball.
Well said. JC had what it took, period.
Agreed he had what it took to be a really good European player.



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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by brownjeans » June 2nd, 2022, 6:27 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
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Agreed he had what it took to be a really good European player.
Unnecessary, and dismissive, qualifier. Timing was bad for him and the NBA.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by FloridaAggie13 » June 3rd, 2022, 12:27 pm

I think people underestimate the responsibilities of an NBA point guard, especially when Jaycee was playing. He's the quarterback of the offense which requires not only the physical abilities, but the instinctive qualities only developed after tens of thousands of repetitions over the years. Taking a shooting guard and making him a PG after he finishes his college career was a waste of time and a long shot at best.

Teams should have seen him for what he was, a shooter and a scorer who could also handle the ball, though not as well as a PG. I thought he could have been a Jeff Hornacek type of player if put in the right situation.



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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » June 3rd, 2022, 10:12 pm

brownjeans wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 6:27 pm
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Agreed he had what it took to be a really good European player.
Unnecessary, and dismissive, qualifier. Timing was bad for him and the NBA.
The timing was bad, Stew didn't care to help him prepare for the NBA, Europe was overly illuring, and he probably didn't pursue it hard/long enough. All were factors. But he was an NBA-caliber player. One of his old teammates, Luka Dončić even made comments to that effect.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Pacobag » June 4th, 2022, 11:47 am

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June 3rd, 2022, 10:12 pm
The timing was bad, Stew didn't care to help him prepare for the NBA, Europe was overly illuring, and he probably didn't pursue it hard/long enough. All were factors. But he was an NBA-caliber player. One of his old teammates, Luka Dončić even made comments to that effect.
Did Stew state that? I just figured it was more about giving the team the best chance to succeed rather than Stew not caring about Jaycee’s individual development and success.

All 30 NBA teams and their staffs didn’t sign Jaycee. He was clearly on the fringe.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Yossarian » June 5th, 2022, 12:52 pm

Aglicious wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
I remember watching highlights and even full games of Jaycee's first few years over seas and actually being bummed about how poorly he was utilized at USU. He was asked to run the point quite a bit in those first years over there and he was very good off the dribble and could create for others and get his own shot whenever he wanted. Before going to Real Madrid, he had displayed that he was a more than capable PG. At USU (and Real Madrid) he was never asked to do those type of things because he was so elite at one thing...shooting. If given the opportunity and a year or two to gain experience at USU, I think Jaycee could have been a pretty unstoppable PG on offense. He did lack some lateral quickness on defense but even that was improved quite a bit over his years as a professional. Unfortunately for him, his scoring and shooting prowess always took precedence because it was so relied upon for the team. I think the team dependence on that part of this game hindered his development of other skills during his time in Logan.

I think people forget how great of an athlete he was. Yes he was an energizer bunny that seemed to never stay still for a moment during 40 min. of play but he was also an amazing leaper and rebounder, especially for his size, an amazing finisher at the rim and decisions maker on the drive while still being super skilled from mid-range and from deep. He remains one of the best shooters I have ever seen at any level of ball.
I agree with this. Jaycee was way more athletic than what he gets credit for.

Question:

Which was the better athlete; Jaycee Carroll or Jared Quayle?


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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Stockypoo2212 » June 5th, 2022, 5:06 pm

Yossarian wrote:
June 5th, 2022, 12:52 pm
Aglicious wrote:
June 2nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
I remember watching highlights and even full games of Jaycee's first few years over seas and actually being bummed about how poorly he was utilized at USU. He was asked to run the point quite a bit in those first years over there and he was very good off the dribble and could create for others and get his own shot whenever he wanted. Before going to Real Madrid, he had displayed that he was a more than capable PG. At USU (and Real Madrid) he was never asked to do those type of things because he was so elite at one thing...shooting. If given the opportunity and a year or two to gain experience at USU, I think Jaycee could have been a pretty unstoppable PG on offense. He did lack some lateral quickness on defense but even that was improved quite a bit over his years as a professional. Unfortunately for him, his scoring and shooting prowess always took precedence because it was so relied upon for the team. I think the team dependence on that part of this game hindered his development of other skills during his time in Logan.

I think people forget how great of an athlete he was. Yes he was an energizer bunny that seemed to never stay still for a moment during 40 min. of play but he was also an amazing leaper and rebounder, especially for his size, an amazing finisher at the rim and decisions maker on the drive while still being super skilled from mid-range and from deep. He remains one of the best shooters I have ever seen at any level of ball.
I agree with this. Jaycee was way more athletic than what he gets credit for.

Question:

Which was the better athlete; Jaycee Carroll or Jared Quayle?
I would say Jared Quayle. They have different body types but I say Jared just because of how strong he is.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by AggiePT » June 23rd, 2022, 10:29 am

Any guessed where our guy Bean ends up after today???



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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by NVAggie » June 23rd, 2022, 11:02 am

Probably a Summer League chance in OKC, Utah, or Chicago.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by FromLItoLogan » June 23rd, 2022, 4:43 pm

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Probably a Summer League chance in OKC, Utah, or Chicago.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by signalwar » June 23rd, 2022, 11:43 pm

I hear Bean made the all tourney team at Portsmith? Any info anywhere?
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Pacobag » June 23rd, 2022, 11:54 pm

signalwar wrote:
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I hear Bean made the all tourney team at Portsmith? Any info anywhere?
According to this site, Bean was one of 12 who made the all tourney team.

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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by usufan1 » June 23rd, 2022, 11:58 pm

Bean signed with the Clippers tonight, hope he gets a chance to prove himself!

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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » June 24th, 2022, 12:00 am

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Bean signed with the Clippers tonight, hope he gets a chance to prove himself!

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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by aggies22 » June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am

I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by usufan1 » June 24th, 2022, 12:08 am

aggies22 wrote:I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
That's awesome! I just saw it posted on the usu basketball Facebook account and couldn't find any details.

Thanks for the update 22!

Good luck Justin!

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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Aggie84025 » June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am

aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by slcagg » June 24th, 2022, 7:11 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
Summer league contract
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by aggies22 » June 24th, 2022, 8:04 am

slcagg wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:11 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
Summer league contract
I believe it also guarantees no worse than a spot on the Clippers G-League team.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Elkaggie » June 24th, 2022, 8:14 am

Wait, I though he was getting drafted?

In all seriousness good for him. Hopefully he gets a shot and can stick but I think Europe is still his best chance.



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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by IditarodAGGIE » June 24th, 2022, 8:36 am

aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 8:04 am
slcagg wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:11 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
Summer league contract
I believe it also guarantees no worse than a spot on the Clippers G-League team.
“ An Exhibit 10 contract is a one-year, minimum salary NBA contract. The deal has a particular Exhibit 10 attached to it and no bonuses come along with it. This attachment is included in the contract after both the sides (team and the player) have agreed to it.

An Exhibit 10 contract gives a franchise the flexibility to convert it into a two-way deal, but the team has to ensure that it happens before the commencement of the regular season. Exhibit 10 deals are usually non-guaranteed, which means the team can waive the player and get the cap hit off their payroll.”
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by dirtnsnow » June 24th, 2022, 8:37 am

Elkaggie wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 8:14 am
Wait, I though he was getting drafted?

In all seriousness good for him. Hopefully he gets a shot and can stick but I think Europe is still his best chance.
No, no, you're mistaken. He didn't come back for his final year of eligibility because he was a walk on. Naturally, all walk ons end up being recruited over. He just couldn't cut it. :sarcasm:

Seriously, though, reading some of those threads from 2019 made me chuckle sensibly.


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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by QuackAttackAggie » June 24th, 2022, 8:51 am

IditarodAGGIE wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 8:36 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 8:04 am
slcagg wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:11 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
Summer league contract
I believe it also guarantees no worse than a spot on the Clippers G-League team.
“ An Exhibit 10 contract is a one-year, minimum salary NBA contract. The deal has a particular Exhibit 10 attached to it and no bonuses come along with it. This attachment is included in the contract after both the sides (team and the player) have agreed to it.

An Exhibit 10 contract gives a franchise the flexibility to convert it into a two-way deal, but the team has to ensure that it happens before the commencement of the regular season. Exhibit 10 deals are usually non-guaranteed, which means the team can waive the player and get the cap hit off their payroll.”
he does get a $50,000 bonus if he sticks with the G league affiliate for 60 days.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Intermeddler » June 24th, 2022, 9:36 am

aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 8:04 am
slcagg wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:11 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 7:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:03 am
I JUST talked to Justin. Here's the deal, they called his agent right after the draft and said they want him and 2 other players to come in for summer league and training camp and compete for a two-way! An E10 with them is the floor if the two-way doesn’t happen.
What is an E10?
Summer league contract
I believe it also guarantees no worse than a spot on the Clippers G-League team.
The Clippers control his G League rights but he isn’t guaranteed a spot on that team.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Aggie84025 » June 24th, 2022, 10:55 am

I am happy for Justin to get an opportunity to prove himself. One thing is for sure is Justin is a fighter from being a walk on to all conference player. I would love to see him make the team.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Madmartigan » June 24th, 2022, 12:02 pm

Meanwhile the guy that Queta regularly b*tch slapped around from CSU gets drafted in the first round. Go figure.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Coloraggie » June 24th, 2022, 12:17 pm

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Meanwhile the guy that Queta regularly b*tch slapped around from CSU gets drafted in the first round. Go figure.
Roddy is a bust. Reading his draft report and watching him in person you find a couple of things. He is too short to guard a center and too slow to guard a wing. Offensively, he doesn't have a lot of moves, he is a decent shoot but doesn't have a quick shot and is bothered by length of a defender. As a non-star he won't get the calls that he did in college and, IMO, his getting favorable calls was half of his worth in the MWC. So Roddy excelled when he got to go against slower and shorter players that he could push around and not get called for fouls. None of those things are true in the NBA. He may get a few minutes since he was drafted but I doubt he gets any minutes after the first year.
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Aggie19 » June 24th, 2022, 12:39 pm

Coloraggie wrote:
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Meanwhile the guy that Queta regularly b*tch slapped around from CSU gets drafted in the first round. Go figure.
Roddy is a bust. Reading his draft report and watching him in person you find a couple of things. He is too short to guard a center and too slow to guard a wing. Offensively, he doesn't have a lot of moves, he is a decent shoot but doesn't have a quick shot and is bothered by length of a defender. As a non-star he won't get the calls that he did in college and, IMO, his getting favorable calls was half of his worth in the MWC. So Roddy excelled when he got to go against slower and shorter players that he could push around and not get called for fouls. None of those things are true in the NBA. He may get a few minutes since he was drafted but I doubt he gets any minutes after the first year.
I was surprised he was picked in the 1st for sure. To me Roddy = Matt Mitchell. Both too small in the pros to play their college position and too slow to be a good enough guard. Both great college players, should have great pro careers overseas. Guess we'll see if it's us or the scouts who are in the wrong line of work 🙂
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Dkdavis » June 24th, 2022, 1:03 pm

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I am happy for Justin to get an opportunity to prove himself. One thing is for sure is Justin is a fighter from being a walk on to all conference player. I would love to see him make the team.
Basically what Bean got is a walk on opportunity in the NBA. Let’s see if he can go from walk on to all star 😂
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by nswaggie » June 24th, 2022, 1:19 pm

Aggie19 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:39 pm
Coloraggie wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:17 pm
Madmartigan wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:02 pm
Meanwhile the guy that Queta regularly b*tch slapped around from CSU gets drafted in the first round. Go figure.
Roddy is a bust. Reading his draft report and watching him in person you find a couple of things. He is too short to guard a center and too slow to guard a wing. Offensively, he doesn't have a lot of moves, he is a decent shoot but doesn't have a quick shot and is bothered by length of a defender. As a non-star he won't get the calls that he did in college and, IMO, his getting favorable calls was half of his worth in the MWC. So Roddy excelled when he got to go against slower and shorter players that he could push around and not get called for fouls. None of those things are true in the NBA. He may get a few minutes since he was drafted but I doubt he gets any minutes after the first year.
I was surprised he was picked in the 1st for sure. To me Roddy = Matt Mitchell. Both too small in the pros to play their college position and too slow to be a good enough guard. Both great college players, should have great pro careers overseas. Guess we'll see if it's us or the scouts who are in the wrong line of work 🙂
I also was really surprised to see Roddy drafted, and at that, in the first round. A year ago if you had told me Roddy would be a first rounder I would have also thought Bean would have been as well. Team success seems to really makes a difference when it comes to the draft. Had we won the MW been ranked and won our close games would Bean have been the first rounder?
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Re: Update on Justin Bean

Post by Aggie84025 » June 24th, 2022, 2:48 pm

Aggie19 wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:39 pm
Coloraggie wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:17 pm
Madmartigan wrote:
June 24th, 2022, 12:02 pm
Meanwhile the guy that Queta regularly b*tch slapped around from CSU gets drafted in the first round. Go figure.
Roddy is a bust. Reading his draft report and watching him in person you find a couple of things. He is too short to guard a center and too slow to guard a wing. Offensively, he doesn't have a lot of moves, he is a decent shoot but doesn't have a quick shot and is bothered by length of a defender. As a non-star he won't get the calls that he did in college and, IMO, his getting favorable calls was half of his worth in the MWC. So Roddy excelled when he got to go against slower and shorter players that he could push around and not get called for fouls. None of those things are true in the NBA. He may get a few minutes since he was drafted but I doubt he gets any minutes after the first year.
I was surprised he was picked in the 1st for sure. To me Roddy = Matt Mitchell. Both too small in the pros to play their college position and too slow to be a good enough guard. Both great college players, should have great pro careers overseas. Guess we'll see if it's us or the scouts who are in the wrong line of work 🙂
I was super surprised he went in the first round and will get a guaranteed contract. To me he was a mid to late 2nd round guy you draft and take a chance on, but not one you give a guaranteed contract to.



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