Shulga got 11 points

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm

That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » November 19th, 2021, 12:05 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

He also had approximately 100 fewer passes than RJ or Miller.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » November 19th, 2021, 12:05 pm

I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 19th, 2021, 12:08 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:05 pm
I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.

This first sentence is my feeling too. Shulga and Zee are young.

sam tingey · Post by **sam tingey** » November 19th, 2021, 12:08 pm

Shulga went for and got his in garbage time today. It is a benefit for the Aggies that he did.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

sam tingey wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:08 pm
Shulga went for and got his in garbage time today. It is a benefit for the Aggies that he did.

I feel Jones and Shulga are the charge and steal pair on defense.

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » November 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.

Yes. He gave up a lot of easy baskets. That needs to improve. He also got blocked like 3 times. He needs to finish better to get those stats against starters and starters who haven’t just got beaten like a drum and are extremely discouraged and not playing hard any more. Context matters.

That said, he played hard and the experience will pay off down the road. Hamoda as well. The deeper we can go will only benefit the Aggies.

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Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 19th, 2021, 12:12 pm

It was good to see Shulga get some minutes. Needs to play a little better on defense, but we are going to need him to be able to give 6-8 solid minutes per game.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » November 19th, 2021, 12:15 pm

scotlandog wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.
Yes. He gave up a lot of easy baskets. That needs to improve. He also got blocked like 3 times. He needs to finish better to get those stats against starters and starters who haven’t just got beaten like a drum and are extremely discouraged and not playing hard any more. Context matters.

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I'm not going to dispute any of that, I will just point out that Eytle-Rock forces the issue as well, and shulga seems like the better offensive option to my untrained eye. If we are choosing between two guards who force it too much, I'll go with the better shooter. Ideally, the hero ball gets coached out of them both and we can see how they can contribute within the system.

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » November 19th, 2021, 12:25 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:
scotlandog wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.
Yes. He gave up a lot of easy baskets. That needs to improve. He also got blocked like 3 times. He needs to finish better to get those stats against starters and starters who haven’t just got beaten like a drum and are extremely discouraged and not playing hard any more. Context matters.

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I'm not going to dispute any of that, I will just point out that Eytle-Rock forces the issue as well, and shulga seems like the better offensive option to my untrained eye. If we are choosing between two guards who force it too much, I'll go with the better shooter. Ideally, the hero ball gets coached out of them both and we can see how they can contribute within the system.

Yeah fair point. They mentioned once that coach said RJ starts slow in the season so I’m hoping that’s true and we start to see more from him. I think RJ did have his best game today and played more within himself. Hopefully that continues. I think RJ and Shulga are both big strong guards and can be an asset for us. I think Hamoda can be the most athletic of the group and can be another asset for us. It’s good to have blowout type of games and get them all experience. Still waiting to see something from Thelisson as well. Plus we still have Bairstow when he comes back. Good times.

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hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm

RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » November 19th, 2021, 12:46 pm

scotlandog wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:25 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:
scotlandog wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:I'd love to see him push Eytle-Rock for minutes. Without poring over game film, he seemed to struggle a little defensively as he got blown by a couple of times.
Yes. He gave up a lot of easy baskets. That needs to improve. He also got blocked like 3 times. He needs to finish better to get those stats against starters and starters who haven’t just got beaten like a drum and are extremely discouraged and not playing hard any more. Context matters.

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I'm not going to dispute any of that, I will just point out that Eytle-Rock forces the issue as well, and shulga seems like the better offensive option to my untrained eye. If we are choosing between two guards who force it too much, I'll go with the better shooter. Ideally, the hero ball gets coached out of them both and we can see how they can contribute within the system.
Yeah fair point. They mentioned once that coach said RJ starts slow in the season so I’m hoping that’s true and we start to see more from him. I think RJ did have his best game today and played more within himself. Hopefully that continues. I think RJ and Shulga are both big strong guards and can be an asset for us. I think Hamoda can be the most athletic of the group and can be another asset for us. It’s good to have blowout type of games and get them all experience. Still waiting to see something from Thelisson as well. Plus we still have Bairstow when he comes back. Good times.

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IMO the “starting slow” explanation is just an excuse for poor play. Is Bean dominating because he “starts fast” but will regress shortly? RJ looks slow. He dribbles a lot with no real intent. He has not proven he has an outside shot and seems incapable of finishing at the basket. Hopefully Bairstow returns and provides something at the 2-spot. Otherwise Shulga should be given the starting spot.

bwcrc · Post by **bwcrc** » November 19th, 2021, 12:51 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.

Calling someone fat is not politically correct. He might be somewhere between healthy and husky but is far from fluffy.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » November 19th, 2021, 12:52 pm

bwcrc wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:51 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.
Calling someone fat is not politically correct. He might be somewhere between healthy and husky but is far from fluffy.

Did I say he was fat? Technically I'm one affair way from being divorced, but that doesn't make me divorced.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » November 19th, 2021, 12:55 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.

I'm not talking about driving, I'm talking about taking ill advised shots that are blocked or otherwise result in a turnover. He needs to recognize when the shot is there and when it's not.

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » November 19th, 2021, 12:59 pm

Shulgas reverse layup was amazing. The English he put on the ball to get that to drop was a thing or beauty.

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AggieFanNate · Post by **AggieFanNate** » November 19th, 2021, 1:02 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:55 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.
I'm not talking about driving, I'm talking about taking ill advised shots that are blocked or otherwise result in a turnover. He needs to recognize when the shot is there and when it's not.

Remember rj was a first time all conference player last year. He had some great stuff out there 40% from 3. He just hasn't found his place in our team yet.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » November 19th, 2021, 1:04 pm

AggieFanNate wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 1:02 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:55 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.
I'm not talking about driving, I'm talking about taking ill advised shots that are blocked or otherwise result in a turnover. He needs to recognize when the shot is there and when it's not.
Remember rj was a first time all conference player last year. He had some great stuff out there 40% from 3. He just hasn't found his place in our team yet.

That's what I'm hoping, too. I don't know these guys on a personal level, but sometimes a little competition for minutes will light a fire.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 19th, 2021, 1:05 pm

AggieFanNate wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 1:02 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:55 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
RJ's role is to force the issue. He's one of our only players that can penetrate and has the body to finish (one sandwich away from fat) at the rim. He's just not finishing strong enough. We've got guys to spread the floor, so we need guys like Jones and RJ who can take advantage of the spacing.
I'm not talking about driving, I'm talking about taking ill advised shots that are blocked or otherwise result in a turnover. He needs to recognize when the shot is there and when it's not.
Remember rj was a first time all conference player last year. He had some great stuff out there 40% from 3. He just hasn't found his place in our team yet.

He is getting a little more comfortable out there. On his drives if there is nothing there he is doing a better job at stopping and passing to someone versus bullying his way and either getting it blocked or turning it over. We need RJ to play well because we can't expect Bean to score over 20 a night and we need another scoring threat. If RJ can give us 8 points a game it will be huge. I think he will get there.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » November 19th, 2021, 1:05 pm

RJ will be fine. If anyone knows his capabilities well it's coach Odom. I trust the coach completely on this one.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » November 19th, 2021, 1:43 pm

Where does Barristow fit in now? Maybe he takes minutes from Ashworth and Miller?

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » November 19th, 2021, 1:45 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 1:05 pm
RJ will be fine. If anyone knows his capabilities well it's coach Odom. I trust the coach completely on this one.

Exactly what I was going to say. If Coach Odom says he typically starts off slow, I have no idea what he means, but I'll trust it's accurate.

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » November 19th, 2021, 1:53 pm

As a couch coach, RJ needs some post up with the others 4 high so he has less tall timber by the basket and get his confidence up on post up moves.

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brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » November 19th, 2021, 2:00 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

I'm going to have to watch videobot. I mean, did he pass the ball on purpose or dribble off his foot or hit it with his knee and it went to a teammate who scored?

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 19th, 2021, 2:10 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 2:00 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.
I'm going to have to watch videobot. I mean, did he pass the ball on purpose or dribble off his foot or hit it with his knee and it went to a teammate who scored?

He had a nice drive to the side of the post but was stopped by the defender, rather than force anything he passed to a cutting bean who caught the nice pass at the free throw line for a wide open jump shot.

SSaggie · Post by **SSaggie** » November 19th, 2021, 2:17 pm

Shulga has great potential but needs better decision making at times (ie too much hero ball).

I imagine he will get his feet under him with more minutes.

Zapata looked like a true freshman.

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hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » November 19th, 2021, 2:20 pm

SSaggie wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 2:17 pm
Shulga has great potential but needs better decision making at times (ie too much hero ball).

I imagine he will get his feet under him with more minutes.

Zapata looked like a true freshman.

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He was the opposite last year. He would pass up so many open looks it was frustrating. Today felt like he knew it was garbage time and he wanted to earn PT. I think the real Shulga is somewhere in the middle.

Post by **aggies22** » November 19th, 2021, 3:21 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

I understand you have an agenda here but honestly, did you watch the game??

cdaAg · Post by **cdaAg** » November 19th, 2021, 3:46 pm

SSaggie wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 2:17 pm

Zapata looked like a true freshman.

I expect revolutionary progress from Zapata. And maybe a beer.

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » November 19th, 2021, 3:58 pm

SSaggie wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 2:17 pm
Shulga has great potential but needs better decision making at times (ie too much hero ball).

I imagine he will get his feet under him with more minutes.

Zapata looked like a true freshman.
Yes….a HS Freshman. He’s got a long way to go. I hope he makes it.
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Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » November 19th, 2021, 4:07 pm

I believe that Connor Gillis should have the green light to jack up 20 3's per game. He's shooting 100% and don't give me that BS about "lies, damn lies, and statistics."

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » November 19th, 2021, 4:10 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 3:21 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.
I understand you have an agenda here but honestly, did you watch the game??

If I remember right just a prediction that Shulga would be the starter.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 19th, 2021, 4:11 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 3:21 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.
I understand you have an agenda here but honestly, did you watch the game??

Yes, I watched the game. Shulga and Zee are the young ones on the team that are playing.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » November 19th, 2021, 4:13 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 4:10 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 3:21 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.
I understand you have an agenda here but honestly, did you watch the game??
If I remember right just a prediction that Shulga would be the starter.

BTW is he really only 6'4" 197lb? He looks bigger than that.

Post by **aggies22** » November 19th, 2021, 4:16 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 4:11 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 3:21 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2021, 12:04 pm
That is more than Eytle-Rock and Miller.
He got 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.
I understand you have an agenda here but honestly, did you watch the game??
Yes, I watched the game. Shulga and Zee are the young ones on the team that are playing.

The hero ball was less than impressive. There are four other dudes on the court with him. Hero ball won't earn him more minutes. Zee didn't score but was much more impressive with his minutes.

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