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Can I just again say how happy I am that the MWC appears to be getting out of this round of expansion intact and unscathed (after a brief scare with AFA/CSU)?
I know it's not perfect, but considering where we were 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago) we are in a great spot given our location and resources and I hope MWC is able to remain intact for many more years.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
CUSA should and probably will take NMSU, it only makes sense. UTEP should not try and block them.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Aggie702 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 1:07 pm
Can I just again say how happy I am that the MWC appears to be getting out of this round of expansion intact and unscathed (after a brief scare with AFA/CSU)?
I know it's not perfect, but considering where we were 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago) we are in a great spot given our location and resources and I hope MWC is able to remain intact for many more years.
I agree we are in a good spot, I also agree with others who suggested we pick the remaining top off the AAC to solidify our position as top G5 (assuming it doesn’t become the G6)
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I wonder if part of the reasoning for the aac going to 14 is the possibility of losing a couple more schools and not having to invite more.bull wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 2:47 pmAggie702 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 1:07 pm
Can I just again say how happy I am that the MWC appears to be getting out of this round of expansion intact and unscathed (after a brief scare with AFA/CSU)?
I know it's not perfect, but considering where we were 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago) we are in a great spot given our location and resources and I hope MWC is able to remain intact for many more years.
I agree we are in a good spot, I also agree with others who suggested we pick the remaining top off the AAC to solidify our position as top G5 (assuming it doesn’t become the G6)
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
I think they assume SMU and Memphis are eventually going to the B12 based on comments they have made to that effect (likely to rattle Aresco’s chain for thinking the AAC was going to raid the B12).slcagg wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:29 pmI wonder if part of the reasoning for the aac going to 14 is the possibility of losing a couple more schools and not having to invite more.bull wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 2:47 pmAggie702 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 1:07 pm
Can I just again say how happy I am that the MWC appears to be getting out of this round of expansion intact and unscathed (after a brief scare with AFA/CSU)?
I know it's not perfect, but considering where we were 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago) we are in a great spot given our location and resources and I hope MWC is able to remain intact for many more years.
I agree we are in a good spot, I also agree with others who suggested we pick the remaining top off the AAC to solidify our position as top G5 (assuming it doesn’t become the G6)
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
There is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
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I am surprised to hear that about la tech. Seems to be a pretty solid g5 schoolNowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:48 pmThere is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
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There are some hard feelings and some bad history between La Tech and the other Belt schools, particularly the Louisiana ones. They won't ever join.slcagg wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:57 pmI am surprised to hear that about la tech. Seems to be a pretty solid g5 schoolNowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:48 pmThere is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Tech, UTEP, and the NewMags are at least interesting. Don't see much point in even talking about the other three. If the MWC were to go after Tech and UTEP, at least there isn't a buy-out with only 3 rump schools left over.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:48 pmThere is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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No thanks to either. Less about snooty attitudes, more about strengthening the league. Tech is so far out there, and the MW needs to focus on separating themselves from the others. I am more interested in a combination of St. Mary's, Wichita State, and Gonzaga for a 14 team basketball conference. Don't know if it is possible, but I think it is under discussion.USU78 wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 4:05 pmTech, UTEP, and the NewMags are at least interesting. Don't see much point in even talking about the other three. If the MWC were to go after Tech and UTEP, at least there isn't a buy-out with only 3 rump schools left over.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:48 pmThere is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
Also I forgot to point out TCU was a C-USA member in the early 2000's.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
In all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
The MWC was UNT and Rice’s first choice, only after we said “no thanks” did they agree to accept an invitation to the AAC. I’ve seen this reported a few places. Suck it Aresco!
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What about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
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They help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
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I agree with football, I would like to see the 3 basketball I named especially the perennial WCC power.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Certainly none of those are great, but LA Tech and Western Kentucky have solid programs in both basketball and football. They are way far out there so it does not make sense, but they are decent options if the league is ever desperate.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Maybe Tech comes back to the WAC. It's mostly FCS teams now but all those schools have plans to move up to FBS in the next few years. They could play as a FBS independent (like NMSU) until the rest of the conference moves up.slcagg wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:57 pmI am surprised to hear that about la tech. Seems to be a pretty solid g5 schoolNowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 3:48 pmThere is hardly anyone left in C-USA now. If the SBC takes those 4, this league will be down to this. (It is amazing the Sun Belt is now raiding C-USA after C-USA did it to them just a few years ago.)
Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTEP and Western Kentucky.
That is only 5 schools left.
Outside of the WAC, no other conference has been hit as hard by conference realignment. In 2002 this was their membership. It was also a premier basketball league.
UAB, Southern Miss, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Depaul, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Marquette, Memphis, St. Louis, South Florida, Tulane, and Tulsa.
Many of those teams are in P5 leagues, there are final fours and other New Year's day bowls among them.
They were a solid WAC member all those years that they were 1000 miles from their nearest conference mate after Tulsa, SMU, TCU and Rice bailed out -- never (I can't express myself without swearing) about it, always competitive, weren't constantly looking to move. (They must really hate Lousiana-Monroe -- they're only about 30 miles apart - but want no part of being in the same conference.). And now the WAC 5.0 will have three teams in east Texas, very proximate to Ruston.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
I would like the MWC go for the AAC jugular and land SMU and possibly Tulsa. The NWC is now stronger and could pitch 2 pretty food schools.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
We should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Per Hair, we are "standing pat" in both basketball and football for the time being:LKGates wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 10:37 pmWe should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
“WHY ISN’T THOMPSON DOING ANYTHING!!!?” wait for itAggie702 wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 10:54 amPer Hair, we are "standing pat" in both basketball and football for the time being:LKGates wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 10:37 pmWe should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
I would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
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Translation:Aggie702 wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 10:54 amPer Hair, we are "standing pat" in both basketball and football for the time being:LKGates wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 10:37 pmWe should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
I mean they do have it pretty nice- a couple of big non conference games, some tourneys, and then for the rest of the conference schedule they hardly ever leave california. They don't experience a change in time zone all year.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:59 pmTranslation:Aggie702 wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 10:54 amPer Hair, we are "standing pat" in both basketball and football for the time being:LKGates wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 10:37 pmWe should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Memphis would move the needle, so I'm guessing they said No,bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:02 pmI would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
That's impressive considering WVU has a medical school and a law school. I actually looked up the rankings, we are tied with WVU at 249 in 2022. Interesting.bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:02 pmI would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
We weren’t in a position to buy out their $20 million exit fee2004AG wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 1:37 pmMemphis would move the needle, so I'm guessing they said No,bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:02 pmI would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
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Re: Sun Belt & CUSA exploring expansion
Some likely conclusions:
(1) Gonzaga wasn’t interested.
(2) We weren’t interested in St. Mary’s.
(3) SMU, Memphis, and Wichita St either were not interested (insanity with the pile of crap the AAC just added), or they did not add enough TV value to justify paying the exit fees.
Memphis will be fine and is probably on the next Big 12 train with Boise St. SMU and Wichita State are simply screwed for the foreseeable future.
I mean, good luck to SMU getting into the Big 12. I’m sure Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU are SUPER interested in elevating SMU.
(1) Gonzaga wasn’t interested.
(2) We weren’t interested in St. Mary’s.
(3) SMU, Memphis, and Wichita St either were not interested (insanity with the pile of crap the AAC just added), or they did not add enough TV value to justify paying the exit fees.
Memphis will be fine and is probably on the next Big 12 train with Boise St. SMU and Wichita State are simply screwed for the foreseeable future.
I mean, good luck to SMU getting into the Big 12. I’m sure Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU are SUPER interested in elevating SMU.
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Money money. It’s like people don’t understand this. Does it pencil out.ViAggie wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 1:44 pmWe weren’t in a position to buy out their $20 million exit fee2004AG wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 1:37 pmMemphis would move the needle, so I'm guessing they said No,bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:02 pmI would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
Or Hair is an idiot for not getting them.
Is the exit fee really $20m? Wow!
What’s the mwc exit fees?
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If I'm Boise, I would not be too confident in receiving a B12 invite based on the the info posted in another thread that was apparently considered by the B12 on which schools to invite. Boise might still move the needle some with football but brings absolutely nothing else.
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Especially if Boise experiences some much overdue difficult times on the field. If attendance falls off a cliff they may have a difficult time, although the Boise market is pretty big and they have no competition.bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 3:09 pmIf I'm Boise, I would not be too confident in receiving a B12 invite based on the the info posted in another thread that was apparently considered by the B12 on which schools to invite. Boise might still move the needle some with football but brings absolutely nothing else.
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I can maybe see their football program go through a lull, but I don't see attendance and the program overall falling off a cliff. Boise is the fastest growing city in the country right now.CaptainChaos wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 3:59 pmEspecially if Boise experiences some much overdue difficult times on the field. If attendance falls off a cliff they may have a difficult time, although the Boise market is pretty big and they have no competition.bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 3:09 pmIf I'm Boise, I would not be too confident in receiving a B12 invite based on the the info posted in another thread that was apparently considered by the B12 on which schools to invite. Boise might still move the needle some with football but brings absolutely nothing else.
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Code for “we tried luring Gonzaga but they said no!”Aggie702 wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 10:54 amPer Hair, we are "standing pat" in both basketball and football for the time being:LKGates wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 10:37 pmWe should either take one or three of those, to get to an even number of basketball schools. Taking, for example, Gonzaga as “everything but football”, balances out Hawaii’s football only membership, giving us 12 schools in all sports. You COULD then add St Mary’s and Wichita State to give two 6 team divisions in football, and two 7 team divisions in basketball.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 6:03 pmThey help very much! I was thinking football invites specifically. I'd love to see 2 out of Gonzaga, SMC, and Wichita added for basketball and olympics.NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:57 pmWhat about Gonzaga? That is being reported as "still on the table."3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑October 20th, 2021, 5:49 pmIn all honesty the MWC is definitely better off staying at 12 and probably better off staying at 10 if/when Boise/SDSU leave than they are adding UTEP and NMSU.
The only teams that for sure make sense for MWC expansion to 14 are among the top of the original AAC leftovers. The top Texas CUSA schools would be worth looking at, but aren't a slam dunk.
Personally, I’d just take Gonzaga, and then wait to see what opportunities offer themselves.
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Yep, that’s the AAC exit fee, the MWC exit fee is currently $12 million, and you can in part thank President Crocket for that.slcagg wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 3:07 pmMoney money. It’s like people don’t understand this. Does it pencil out.ViAggie wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 1:44 pmWe weren’t in a position to buy out their $20 million exit fee2004AG wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 1:37 pmMemphis would move the needle, so I'm guessing they said No,bwcrc wrote: ↑October 21st, 2021, 12:02 pmI would be shocked if the MWC did not give serious consideration to adding a couple of schools but decided to not add anyone after hearing back from the media partners that the schools under consideration would not move the needle at all on the media contract. With the MWC remaining wholly intact through this latest round of realignment, as well as some of the apparent information on where some MWC schools stack up for invites to the B12 indicating there is not currently much concern that a school will be poached, the MWC doesn't need to take desperate measures like the AAC is doing.
On a side note, USU has the same USNWR ranking as West Virginia and has fairly comparable stats on student population, tuition, and starting salaries. Boise is not specifically ranked but falls somewhere in the 299-391 range.
Or Hair is an idiot for not getting them.
Is the exit fee really $20m? Wow!
What’s the mwc exit fees?
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