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Post by UStateTim » June 27th, 2021, 8:10 pm

The wide net approach makes too much sense given how volatile the transfer portal is. Now if we can land these kids right away I would be blown away.
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Post by Aggie in Boise » June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am

We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





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Post by Yossarian » June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?


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Post by dirtnsnow » June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm

Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.


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Post by Yossarian » June 28th, 2021, 12:14 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.
Should it have been called traveling? He bounces the ball off the floor (essentially a dribble), and then runs about 5 steps to catch the ball. How is that not traveling?


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Re: Recruiting Thread

Post by dirtnsnow » June 28th, 2021, 12:44 pm

Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dirtnsnow wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.
Should it have been called traveling? He bounces the ball off the floor (essentially a dribble), and then runs about 5 steps to catch the ball. How is that not traveling?
Interesting, hadn't thought of that. Looked up the NBA rules, and it says that a player can't catch his own pass unless it hits the hoop or another player. Didn't see any provision for NCAA or FIBA like that, though. Without that provision, you could argue it's a loose ball.


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Re: Recruiting Thread

Post by FL350Aggie » June 28th, 2021, 1:41 pm

Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dirtnsnow wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.
Should it have been called traveling? He bounces the ball off the floor (essentially a dribble), and then runs about 5 steps to catch the ball. How is that not traveling?
Yes, it’s a travel. You can’t pass to yourself, unless it’s off the backboard. The ref was probably just amazed as everybody else, and allowed it. Ha ha



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Re: Recruiting Thread

Post by Real Life Aggie » June 28th, 2021, 2:06 pm

Hardly looks like a real game though. There's a notable lack of hustle, they've got cheap jerseys on. Just a bunch of guys playing around. Right?



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Re: Recruiting Thread

Post by Aggie in Boise » June 28th, 2021, 2:28 pm

FL350Aggie wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 1:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dirtnsnow wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.
Should it have been called traveling? He bounces the ball off the floor (essentially a dribble), and then runs about 5 steps to catch the ball. How is that not traveling?
Yes, it’s a travel. You can’t pass to yourself, unless it’s off the backboard. The ref was probably just amazed as everybody else, and allowed it. Ha ha
Nope! High School refs are well trained and rarely, if ever, miss traveling calls. :joking: I wonder what an NBA official would have called?

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Post by Yossarian » June 28th, 2021, 2:36 pm

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Hardly looks like a real game though. There's a notable lack of hustle, they've got cheap jerseys on. Just a bunch of guys playing around. Right?
It couldn't have been churchball or the defender would have run up and taken his legs out from under him when he jumped.
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Post by brownjeans » June 28th, 2021, 2:41 pm

Yossarian wrote:
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Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
Not just you. Had I been the on the opposing team, I'd have put him on his butt - if not on the attempt, then on the next play.



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Re: Recruiting Thread

Post by aggies22 » June 28th, 2021, 3:07 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Jack is currently not on our radar.



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Post by GeoAg » June 28th, 2021, 5:00 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 2:28 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 1:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:14 pm
dirtnsnow wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm
Yossarian wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 12:05 pm
Aggie in Boise wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 11:46 am
We need to offer Jack Payne. He played for Boise High School and this year will be a senior at a brand new High School (Owyhee) in Meridian. This last weekend Owyhee played in a tournament in Phoenix and Jack picked up an offer from University of Colorado. He already holds offers from University of Montana, University of Idaho, and Southern Utah University. He is a great Quarterback too.





@aggies22 Do you know if he is on USU's radar?
Is it just me, or is the self-lob and douchey move?
I think it is if it's just for show, but he actually used it to get around a defender, so it was functional even if unconventional.
Should it have been called traveling? He bounces the ball off the floor (essentially a dribble), and then runs about 5 steps to catch the ball. How is that not traveling?
Yes, it’s a travel. You can’t pass to yourself, unless it’s off the backboard. The ref was probably just amazed as everybody else, and allowed it. Ha ha
Nope! High School refs are well trained and rarely, if ever, miss traveling calls. :joking: I wonder what an NBA official would have called?

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It is a single dribble into a shot. He bounces the ball with one had, albeit very high and far and then grabs the ball with two hands into the shot. The same as he would with a jumpshot from that spot with a more conventional dribble. I can agree on it being douchey.


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Post by Yossarian » June 28th, 2021, 5:21 pm

He also runs 5 steps between the bounce and where he catches to ball to shoot and he doesn't keep his hand on top of the ball during the bounce. You can't run five steps from the time you take a dribble to the time you pick up the dribble to shoot.


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Post by QuackAttackAggie » June 28th, 2021, 5:24 pm

Yossarian wrote:He also runs 5 steps between the bounce and where he catches to ball to shoot and he doesn't keep his hand on top of the ball during the bounce. You can't run five steps from the time you take a dribble to the time you pick up the dribble to shoot.
There's no limit to steps between dribbles. There is no traveling unless you carry the ball. Players will sometimes throw the ball way ahead of them to get into a fast break and take 5+ steps.


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Post by aggietime » June 28th, 2021, 5:42 pm

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Yossarian wrote:He also runs 5 steps between the bounce and where he catches to ball to shoot and he doesn't keep his hand on top of the ball during the bounce. You can't run five steps from the time you take a dribble to the time you pick up the dribble to shoot.
There's no limit to steps between dribbles. There is no traveling unless you carry the ball. Players will sometimes throw the ball way ahead of them to get into a fast break and take 5+ steps.


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Thank you. You can't travel if you're not holding the ball. Definitely not a travel.



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Post by Yossarian » June 28th, 2021, 6:07 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote:
June 28th, 2021, 5:24 pm
Yossarian wrote:He also runs 5 steps between the bounce and where he catches to ball to shoot and he doesn't keep his hand on top of the ball during the bounce. You can't run five steps from the time you take a dribble to the time you pick up the dribble to shoot.
There's no limit to steps between dribbles. There is no traveling unless you carry the ball. Players will sometimes throw the ball way ahead of them to get into a fast break and take 5+ steps.


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https://forum.officiating.com/basketbal ... ble-2.html

Some agree with you - you can't travel while you're dribbling and/or don't have the ball in your hand.

I say there is a difference between throwing the ball out in front of you and running up to catch in on a fast break (Case A) and doing what this kid did (Case B). In Case A, a player hasn't started the dribble until he catches up to the ball. He must then maintain control of the ball with his hand on top of it as he continues down the floor. Yes, he may take more than two steps between dribbles, but he is in control of the ball. In Case B, the player has made his first dribble from a standing position and he does not have control of the ball. I guess he never came down with the ball though - he just jumped up and grabbed it and shot. I could be wrong on the travel call - it just doesn't "look" like a legal play to me. And it's douchey.


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Post by Pacobag » June 28th, 2021, 7:19 pm

I don’t claim to know the official rule but for me the question is whether that big bounce is considered a pass or a dribble. If a pass, it would be a travel, if a dribble, then I would say it was legal since he wasn’t palming/carrying the ball. I’m assuming there is no rule on how many steps a player can take between dribbles or how high the ball can bounce on a dribble. Please correct me if I’m wrong.



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Post by GeoAg » June 28th, 2021, 8:51 pm

No restrictions on how high the ball bounces or how many steps you can take dribbling as long as the ball doesn't come to rest in your hand.

No difference between a long dribble thrown ahead and this play... except for the douchiness. Nothing illegal about it matter how it looks. Would I want this guy? No
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Post by aggietime » June 28th, 2021, 10:00 pm

I can't imagine judging a 16ish year old kid as a douche for one play in a rec league type game...yikes. Take a deep breath y'all.



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Post by GeoAg » June 28th, 2021, 11:04 pm

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I can't imagine judging a 16ish year old kid as a douche for one play in a rec league type game...yikes. Take a deep breath y'all.
Lots of us were probably douches on occasion at 16. I know I was. And if I could do that when I was 16, I would have.
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Post by nvspuds » June 29th, 2021, 7:57 am

I am still pretty douchey and I am 66..
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Post by Real Life Aggie » June 29th, 2021, 8:13 am

nvspuds wrote:
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I am still pretty douchey and I am 66..
I mean, I didn't want to be the one to say it, spuds. :joking:



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Post by dirtnsnow » June 29th, 2021, 9:15 am

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I am still pretty douchey and I am 66..
If you're pulling this move at the local rec center when you're 66 years old, that makes you a legend, not a douche.
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I am a legend in my own room and a rumor in my own time..
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Post by mcaggie1 » August 9th, 2021, 2:50 pm

Who wants another basketball recruit that is also a great quarterback?



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Post by 3rdGenAggie » August 9th, 2021, 7:21 pm

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It always surprises me to see schools like Kansas be one of just a few offers. You'd think they would just keep the 3* type kids on the hook just enough without offering and go full bore at nothing but 4* and 5* until closer to signing day. Then just move in and sweep up most any 3* they want at the finish line.

I mean, it's always possible this kid is a 4 or 5* recruit and they're just early on him, but typically one of the primary aspects of a 4 of 5* kid is that it's apparent to everyone they are one.
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