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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 27th, 2021, 8:38 am

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Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » March 27th, 2021, 8:39 am

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You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done.
That's not why people have taken the position that they have including me. It's because he lied to the kids and to the fanbase.

I don't blame anyone for being upset because he was disingenuous and dishonest. He was open to the opportunity and he should've made that clear even though it could've impacted recruiting.
Lied how? A coach has absolutely zero obligation to tell his players he’s interviewing for other jobs, and he shouldn’t. Craig has done not a single thing wrong here.


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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » March 27th, 2021, 8:40 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
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Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
Yeah, of course he is the enemy. I hate Utah. So I will cheer against Craig Smith. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna act like a 16 year old boy and throw a fit about him not telling us he was leaving.


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frankiesaysrelax wrote:
3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:33 am
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March 27th, 2021, 8:31 am
I hope Scotty G gives him the silent treatment
Unfortunately Ute fans ultimately pay Scotty's salary. He'll kiss some butt for ratings, as he should.
Just on principle alone he should not say a single word to him as long as he is Utah’s coach. That would make for some of the most uncomfortable interviews ever and I would watch all of them.
Have you listened to a Craig Smith interview? He doesn't need anyone to say a word to him.

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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 27th, 2021, 8:41 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:33 am
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:31 am
I hope Scotty G gives him the silent treatment
Unfortunately Ute fans ultimately pay Scotty's salary. He'll kiss some butt for ratings, as he should.
Yep. Scotty G is just a puppet of Utah and byu. Ridiculous anyone in this thread feels he has any loyalty to USU after spending his whole week kissing up to our rivals.



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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 27th, 2021, 8:42 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:40 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:28 am
Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
Yeah, of course he is the enemy. I hate Utah. So I will cheer against Craig Smith. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna act like a 16 year old boy and throw a fit about him not telling us he was leaving.


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I don't care about decorum, but he is a Ute and now the enemy.



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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2021, 8:43 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:39 am
AggieFBObsession wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:28 am
You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done.
That's not why people have taken the position that they have including me. It's because he lied to the kids and to the fanbase.

I don't blame anyone for being upset because he was disingenuous and dishonest. He was open to the opportunity and he should've made that clear even though it could've impacted recruiting.
Lied how? A coach has absolutely zero obligation to tell his players he’s interviewing for other jobs, and he shouldn’t. Craig has done not a single thing wrong here.


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That is your opinion, not mine. He talked to players earlier this week assuring he was staying. He has every right to do it but it does not mean it was a douche move. To go to your hated rival is going to spurn emotions.
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by kofdog » March 27th, 2021, 8:43 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:40 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:28 am
Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
Yeah, of course he is the enemy. I hate Utah. So I will cheer against Craig Smith. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna act like a 16 year old boy and throw a fit about him not telling us he was leaving.


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It’s not that he didn’t tell anyone he was leaving, it’s that he called people and Sid he wasn’t leaving and then did
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 27th, 2021, 8:46 am

The parallels to GA 1.0 leaving aren't lost on me.

I hope Smith doesn't have the personal turmoil GA has had, but I hope his success on the court matches GA's success on the field after leaving USU.


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Post by NowhereLandAggie » March 27th, 2021, 8:47 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:41 am
3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:33 am
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:31 am
I hope Scotty G gives him the silent treatment
Unfortunately Ute fans ultimately pay Scotty's salary. He'll kiss some butt for ratings, as he should.
Yep. Scotty G is just a puppet of Utah and byu. Ridiculous anyone in this thread feels he has any loyalty to USU after spending his whole week kissing up to our rivals.
I know Scotty G and that is not true. He is paid to cover sports, specifically in Utah. That means covering BYU, Utah, the Jazz, and the Aggies. He helped get USU on the air on 1280, and tries to interview coaches here on the air.

But USU doesn't move the dial as much as some other names locally. If he took a job in the Bay Area, SJSU or even Stanford or Cal wouldn't be the top topic. The 49ers, Warriors, or A's would get the coverage.
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Post by UStateTim » March 27th, 2021, 8:48 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:46 am
The parallels to GA 1.0 leaving aren't lost on me.

I hope Smith doesn't have the personal turmoil GA has had, but I hope his success on the court matches GA's success on the field after leaving USU.
What’s the equivalent of going to the Big Ten championship and losing 59-0? Hell, I don’t even want him to make it to a championship game



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Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2021, 8:50 am

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:47 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:41 am
3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:33 am
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:31 am
I hope Scotty G gives him the silent treatment
Unfortunately Ute fans ultimately pay Scotty's salary. He'll kiss some butt for ratings, as he should.
Yep. Scotty G is just a puppet of Utah and byu. Ridiculous anyone in this thread feels he has any loyalty to USU after spending his whole week kissing up to our rivals.
I know Scotty G and that is not true. He is paid to cover sports, specifically in Utah. That means covering BYU, Utah, the Jazz, and the Aggies. He helped get USU on the air on 1280, and tries to interview coaches here on the air.

But USU doesn't move the dial as much as some other names locally. If he took a job in the Bay Area, SJSU or even Stanford or Cal wouldn't be the top topic. The 49ers, Warriors, or A's would get the coverage.
Exactly Scotty is an aggie, but his day job is to make money for his company.
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Post by ProvoAggie » March 27th, 2021, 8:54 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:46 am
The parallels to GA 1.0 leaving aren't lost on me.

I hope Smith doesn't have the personal turmoil GA has had, but I hope his success on the court matches GA's success on the field after leaving USU.
Didn't GA immediately start calling players once things started leaking out? I don't think that's happening here.
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Post by AggieFBObsession » March 27th, 2021, 8:56 am

Coach Smith didn't have to tell the kids he was interviewing. He needed to tell them it was possible, not the opposite.
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » March 27th, 2021, 8:56 am

kofdog wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:40 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:28 am
Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
Yeah, of course he is the enemy. I hate Utah. So I will cheer against Craig Smith. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna act like a 16 year old boy and throw a fit about him not telling us he was leaving.


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It’s not that he didn’t tell anyone he was leaving, it’s that he called people and Sid he wasn’t leaving and then did
No possibility that something changed during that timeframe? Maybe at the time of the call he thought he wasn’t leaving? You guys want to look at all this in a vacuum just so you can call him a (I can't express myself without swearing) guy.
It’s embarrassing and very byu-esque.


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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 27th, 2021, 8:59 am

Informing your players that you’re talking to Utah doesn’t break any trust with Utah but helps maintain your players’ trust. I’m guessing he knew about this job offer when he turned down the Minnesota interview.
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Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 27th, 2021, 9:00 am

He has no legal requirement, you are right. Probably not even an ethical requirement.

A moral requirement? That's another story.
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Post by Usu0505 » March 27th, 2021, 9:01 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
kofdog wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:40 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 8:28 am
Oh come on let’s not play the class card like a bunch of zoobs. This is how coaching jobs work. You can’t let deals leak out before they’re done. Craig Smith is a great guy and I’m glad he’s gonna make a ton of money while staying in Utah. It’s perfect irony considering fans on here have been obtusely claiming he “turned down” the Minnesota job.


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This is absolute garbage. He went to the enemy, he is now the enemy.
Yeah, of course he is the enemy. I hate Utah. So I will cheer against Craig Smith. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna act like a 16 year old boy and throw a fit about him not telling us he was leaving.


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It’s not that he didn’t tell anyone he was leaving, it’s that he called people and Sid he wasn’t leaving and then did
No possibility that something changed during that timeframe? Maybe at the time of the call he thought he wasn’t leaving? You guys want to look at all this in a vacuum just so you can call him a (I can't express myself without swearing) guy.
It’s embarrassing and very byu-esque.


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I think it’s sports-esque. Doesn’t matter what team, high school, college, nba, when a coach leaves to coach a hated rival fans are going to feel betrayed. Don’t really need you to police everyone on that. Let people grieve how they want and comment on a forum meant to do so.

Btw I use the term rival loosely since we never play them.


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Post by NowhereLandAggie » March 27th, 2021, 9:01 am

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Informing your players that you’re talking to Utah doesn’t break any trust with Utah but helps maintain your players’ trust. I’m guessing he knew about this job offer when he turned down the Minnesota interview.
There wasn't an offer until Alex Jensen and Johnnie Bryant turned them down. That only happened yesterday with the latter.

Minnesota was never going to hire him in the first place.



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Post by stang » March 27th, 2021, 9:25 am

I've been perhaps the most vocal that there's no way he was going to Utah, so if anything, knowing that I wasn't the only one hearing what I was hearing is comforting.

It's simply baffling to me. I had a coach on his staff tell me DIRECTLY that he had already turned down Utah and that without question he is sticking around. I don't think this coach was lying, and I don't think Craig was trying to mislead this coach. But I would love to hear what happened to sway things so dramatically. It's not like the offer was a surprise.

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Post by AgMan21 » March 27th, 2021, 9:30 am

How great would it be if we were able to hire Alex Jensen or Johnnie Bryant. Just to really stick it in Utah’s face.


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Post by Blue Sage » March 27th, 2021, 9:34 am

AgMan21 wrote:
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How great would it be if we were able to hire Alex Jensen or Johnnie Bryant. Just to really stick it in Utah’s face.


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Perfect! Actually if I were them I’d come here, way better jumping off point than Utah.



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 27th, 2021, 9:36 am

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 9:01 am
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March 27th, 2021, 8:59 am
Informing your players that you’re talking to Utah doesn’t break any trust with Utah but helps maintain your players’ trust. I’m guessing he knew about this job offer when he turned down the Minnesota interview.
There wasn't an offer until Alex Jensen and Johnnie Bryant turned them down. That only happened yesterday with the latter.

Minnesota was never going to hire him in the first place.
Correction, Bryant removed his name from consideration yesterday. What does that indicate? He was saving face because Utah was also set on a hire. I also believe strongly that Utah knew Alex was a major long shot given his trajectory in the NBA coaching ranks. I think he was interviewed solely to appease the fan base and boosters who were calling for him to be interviewed.
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Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 27th, 2021, 9:39 am

Alex Jones has interviewed for NBA head coaching jobs already. He was never going to Utah.


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Post by AgMac » March 27th, 2021, 9:41 am

No need to apologize, 22. But it was honestly a little embarrassing that so many Aggies would be so naive to buy into those reports. As if CS or anyone is going to turn down that money and P5 program.
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Post by JFW_AGGIES » March 27th, 2021, 9:43 am

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Alex Jones has interviewed for NBA head coaching jobs already. He was never going to Utah.
ALEX JONES :shock: :shock: :shock:
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JFW_AGGIES wrote:
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Alex Jones has interviewed for NBA head coaching jobs already. He was never going to Utah.
ALEX JONES :shock: :shock: :shock:
He meant Alex Smith.


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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Zaggie07 » March 27th, 2021, 10:15 am

On a side note, when 22 or anybody else says "Aggie brother" does anybody else hear it in a Hulk Hogan voice in their head?
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by Coloraggie » March 27th, 2021, 10:34 am

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
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The whole situation was very fluid. If Alex Jensen or Johnnie Bryant took the job, Craig Smith never goes to Utah.

He was their 3rd option, so it wasn't likely to get this far down the list, even though it did.
I'm not sure is want to go somewhere that I was the last ditch emergency option. Seems a little humiliating to me. But then again it may have given him extreme negotiating power that he didn't anticipate. In with many of you in saying had he gone somewhere out of state and out of conference else I would continue to cheer for him. I don't wish him bad necessarily but I certainly won't follow how he is doing. Terrible move on his part. When the contract is announced we'll know what the price of integrity is.



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Post by newhouse9 » March 27th, 2021, 10:43 am

Hard to fault Craig for $3 MM a year. There is not easy way, or right way, for this to happen. It sucks. I guess we're on to seeing what the next coach will bring. Dang.

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Post by Bank Shot » March 27th, 2021, 10:47 am

No reason to apologize at all!



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Post by ineptimusprime » March 27th, 2021, 10:52 am

Zaggie07 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 10:15 am
On a side note, when 22 or anybody else says "Aggie brother" does anybody else hear it in a Hulk Hogan voice in their head?
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100% this. I’m actually going to imagine aggies22 as Hulk Hogan from now on when I read his posts.
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Post by Blitz79 » March 27th, 2021, 10:57 am

Coloraggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 10:34 am
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March 27th, 2021, 8:13 am
The whole situation was very fluid. If Alex Jensen or Johnnie Bryant took the job, Craig Smith never goes to Utah.

He was their 3rd option, so it wasn't likely to get this far down the list, even though it did.
I'm not sure is want to go somewhere that I was the last ditch emergency option. Seems a little humiliating to me. But then again it may have given him extreme negotiating power that he didn't anticipate. In with many of you in saying had he gone somewhere out of state and out of conference else I would continue to cheer for him. I don't wish him bad necessarily but I certainly won't follow how he is doing. Terrible move on his part. When the contract is announced we'll know what the price of integrity is.
WHat's your definition of integrity?



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 27th, 2021, 10:59 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 10:52 am
Zaggie07 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 10:15 am
On a side note, when 22 or anybody else says "Aggie brother" does anybody else hear it in a Hulk Hogan voice in their head?
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100% this. I’m actually going to imagine aggies22 as Hulk Hogan from now on when I read his posts.
If I ever meet Aggie22, I'm going to be disappointed if he doesn't look like Hulk Hogan
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Re: I apologize Aggie Nation

Post by USUaggienation » March 27th, 2021, 11:21 am

I’m with you, man. I don’t even know how to feel. I’m not angry, I don’t hate him, I appreciate the three years. But he’s making a big mistake and I just hope he learns whatever he needs to from this decision.



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