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Well you can safely bet that USU is not one of those G5s that will be considered.Astate4life wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:58 pmFegans kid from Oxford, Ala. Rated 4* db, every SEC and Arkansas State are in the running Arkansas-state the only G5 being considered, until now probably.slcagg wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:01 amWhat recruit are you referring to?Astate4life wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:01 amPlus he is a recruiting machine and has contacts everywhere. We are/were in the hunt for a 4* db in Alabama. Just pray Blake leaves most of his D staff behind unless you want the opponents to score in the 40s, 50s and roll up 500/600 yds offense
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Oh. A 2022 kid right? I would be surprised if he goes anywhere but bama.Astate4life wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:58 pmFegans kid from Oxford, Ala. Rated 4* db, every SEC and Arkansas State are in the running Arkansas-state the only G5 being considered, until now probably.slcagg wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:01 amWhat recruit are you referring to?Astate4life wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:01 amPlus he is a recruiting machine and has contacts everywhere. We are/were in the hunt for a 4* db in Alabama. Just pray Blake leaves most of his D staff behind unless you want the opponents to score in the 40s, 50s and roll up 500/600 yds offense
Re: Blake Anderson??
Us stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Average would be a significant step forward from where we currently find ourselves. I'll take it!!!Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
I take it you're not part of the Central Baptist family.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Lol- no sir. They are about the only folks that wanted to keep him in Jonesboro.OKAggie wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 2:00 pmI take it you're not part of the Central Baptist family.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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It seems like most folks understand Blake needed to get out of town because of his major loss and the emotions tied to the area, etc.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 2:07 pmLol- no sir. They are about the only folks that wanted to keep him in Jonesboro.OKAggie wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 2:00 pmI take it you're not part of the Central Baptist family.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Seemed like he ran a good program - lots of bowl games, no scandals or issues. If you like those you’ll love Butch whose only concerned with himself.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
- allegations of hitting players
- playing kids in games with concussions
- calling a player a “traitor” for helping a rape victim
He may win for you but he seems like a class A jerk and he will have no problem leaving you.
Seems like you came to talk a little smack I hope for good things for both programs.
I like winning but not at the cost of student athletes or to cheer for terrible human beings
Good luck to both USU and Ark State.
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I’m not a huge fan of the Butch Jones hire. Hopefully he does what he’s supposed to do and moves on to bigger and better things quickly. Our programs are both relatively the same- we shouldn’t want a coach longer than about 3 years. If they’re here longer than that, it mostly means that they didn’t do a good enough job to land a bigger gig.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 2:51 pmSeemed like he ran a good program - lots of bowl games, no scandals or issues. If you like those you’ll love Butch whose only concerned with himself.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
- allegations of hitting players
- playing kids in games with concussions
- calling a player a “traitor” for helping a rape victim
He may win for you but he seems like a class A jerk and he will have no problem leaving you.
Seems like you came to talk a little smack I hope for good things for both programs.
I like winning but not at the cost of student athletes or to cheer for terrible human beings
Good luck to both USU and Ark State.
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Butch Jones also once had one of his assistant coaches try to trip an opposing player after he made an interception.
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From his record it seems the only down year was 2020. You throw that out he averaged 8 wins per year and was consistently 8, 7, or 9 wins. Even with 2020 he averaged about 7.25 wins per year.
Do Arkansas State fans think they should do better than that?
Do Arkansas State fans think they should do better than that?
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I checked out your board. It’s the same few people constantly complaining. Even still today, despite the fact that he is now (thankfully) our coach. I read several personal attacks (many regarding him dating and trying to move on with his life) which speak volumes to the credibility of your site. Wish you the best but take that nonsense somewhere else. Glad to take him off your hands!
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The majority of the AState fans that have come by are great.
When you look at these awful 247 message boards, it really makes you feel lucky that we have a place like this to post.
When you look at these awful 247 message boards, it really makes you feel lucky that we have a place like this to post.
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I will take that any day of the week. Do i want 10 wins every year, yes but i know it is not feasible. Seems like a good guy that runs a clean program. I look forward to being relevant again in the conference.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 3:32 pmFrom his record it seems the only down year was 2020. You throw that out he averaged 8 wins per year and was consistently 8, 7, or 9 wins. Even with 2020 he averaged about 7.25 wins per year.
Do Arkansas State fans think they should do better than that?
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Yep. Blake Anderson had four 8 win seasons at Arkansas State and two conference titles. We have had four 8 win seasons in the last 40 years and one outright conference title. I'll be happy to see us consistently winning 8 games.AgMac wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:42 pmAverage would be a significant step forward from where we currently find ourselves. I'll take it!!!Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
Blake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
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ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
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Well, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
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Not to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
Gary did the same thing. Hit the lottery with Chuckie and went all in with a ton of JuCo transfers in the 2011 (especially) and 2012 recruiting classes.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
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I think we're letting more recent events cloud Aggie football history. Gary 2.0 was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. But Gary 1.0 changed the entire culture of USU football. He left a stacked team that had double digit wins for years (despite relying on 3rd and 4th string QBs).
Rip Gary apart all you want for his second stint here, but Gary changed Aggie football.
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I think the team Gary left MATT may be our most talented team in the last 40 years... The team Matt left Gary was not very talented.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:51 amGary did the same thing. Hit the lottery with Chuckie and went all in with a ton of JuCo transfers in the 2011 (especially) and 2012 recruiting classes.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
And was comparing Matt vs Blake there. I think Gary's 1.0 here was a very different job from either Matt or Blakes 1st HC job.
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I'd have to compare rosters, you may be right.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:18 amI think the team Gary left MATT may be our most talented team in the last 40 years... The team Matt left Gary was not very talented.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:51 amGary did the same thing. Hit the lottery with Chuckie and went all in with a ton of JuCo transfers in the 2011 (especially) and 2012 recruiting classes.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
And was comparing Matt vs Blake there. I think Gary's 1.0 here was a very different job from either Matt or Blakes 1st HC job.
I agree with you on the second point. Gary had NO winning to tradition to build on. However, Gary did have a much weaker conference to compete in.
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Are you saying Gary had multiple double digit win seasons?AgMac wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:02 amI think we're letting more recent events cloud Aggie football history. Gary 2.0 was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. But Gary 1.0 changed the entire culture of USU football. He left a stacked team that had double digit wins for years (despite relying on 3rd and 4th string QBs).
Rip Gary apart all you want for his second stint here, but Gary changed Aggie football.
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From the disaster that was Brent Guy to Andy 1.0's 2012 season was a journey of galactic proportions. No question. Credit where credit's due.AgMac wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:02 amI think we're letting more recent events cloud Aggie football history. Gary 2.0 was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. But Gary 1.0 changed the entire culture of USU football. He left a stacked team that had double digit wins for years (despite relying on 3rd and 4th string QBs).
Rip Gary apart all you want for his second stint here, but Gary changed Aggie football.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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And Woodward -- was he a Wells recruit?MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
The most important thing that Gary 1.0 had that his predecessors did not have was a vision of what USU football could be. He saw the gem within the rocks. Then, he had the ability to sell the program to the university, the donors, the fans, assistant coaches, and recruits. What he did in his first stop here was Herculean in scope. He took an under-funded outcast that was perennially in the Bottom 10 in the country with a shoestring budget and horrible facilities (although they were on the way to getting better) and created a winning program.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 11:18 amI'd have to compare rosters, you may be right.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:18 amI think the team Gary left MATT may be our most talented team in the last 40 years... The team Matt left Gary was not very talented.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:51 amGary did the same thing. Hit the lottery with Chuckie and went all in with a ton of JuCo transfers in the 2011 (especially) and 2012 recruiting classes.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
And was comparing Matt vs Blake there. I think Gary's 1.0 here was a very different job from either Matt or Blakes 1st HC job.
I agree with you on the second point. Gary had NO winning to tradition to build on. However, Gary did have a much weaker conference to compete in.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
I agree with this, but I think Brent Guy deserves some credit. I know I am in the minority on this but I think he did some very good things for the program but we were so far behind and so bad it was hard to see the progress.Yossarian wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 1:03 pmThe most important thing that Gary 1.0 had that his predecessors did not have was a vision of what USU football could be. He saw the gem within the rocks. Then, he had the ability to sell the program to the university, the donors, the fans, assistant coaches, and recruits. What he did in his first stop here was Herculean in scope. He took an under-funded outcast that was perennially in the Bottom 10 in the country with a shoestring budget and horrible facilities (although they were on the way to getting better) and created a winning program.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 11:18 amI'd have to compare rosters, you may be right.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:18 amI think the team Gary left MATT may be our most talented team in the last 40 years... The team Matt left Gary was not very talented.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:51 amGary did the same thing. Hit the lottery with Chuckie and went all in with a ton of JuCo transfers in the 2011 (especially) and 2012 recruiting classes.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:04 amNot to me. Blake's lows weren't as low either. Matt was very very close to being fired here. Matt grossly under preformed with the talent he was left. Nearly got fired here. Hit the lottery with Jordan. Went all in on 1 season recruiting wise and hit the jackpot. Got a new Job .ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:33 pmWell, you don’t get to count the last two years at Texas Tech in evaluating the existence of a parallel based on facts as they existed when Wells left.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:17 pmineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 11:03 pmBlake Anderson is the Matt Wells of Arkansas State in the sense that he is irrationally disliked for providing sustained success.
Most on this board were excited when Texas Tech hired Wells and were excited about the P5 retread we hired to replace him. Boy were we wrong — the grass was not greener on the other side.
Hope it works out better for you guys, but the parallels are there.
I dont see that at all. Matt Wells has a losing record 5 of the last 6. Blake Anderson has a winning record in 6 of the last 7.
Very different.
Seems to me like both had a bunch of bowl seasons at G5 schools and had one outlier losing season. Overall the MW is a tougher conference than the Sun Belt, so I value Matt’s 6-7 seasons as much as Blake’s 7 win seasons. Blake’s highs were also not as high as the highs we had under Wells (two 10 win seasons, rankings in the CFP for multiple weeks in 2018). On the other hand, Blake did lock down a few conference titles.
Seems pretty comparable to me. I am happy Blake is our coach now, and the Wells was our coach when he was.
I for 1 dont miss Matt. I wish him luck. But there was nothing great or special there. Very average.
And was comparing Matt vs Blake there. I think Gary's 1.0 here was a very different job from either Matt or Blakes 1st HC job.
I agree with you on the second point. Gary had NO winning to tradition to build on. However, Gary did have a much weaker conference to compete in.
We were 1 Fresno State 57? yard field goal away from Brent Guy staying on and GA staying at Utah. IMHO
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Admittedly, my statement was not entirely clear and lends itself to the following multiple interpretations: (i) Gary left a team that, while Gary was here, had multiple double digit wins, (ii) Gary left a team that, for a period commencing some time while Gary was here and ending some time after Gary left, had multiple double digit wins, or (iii) Gary left a team that, after Gary left, had double digit wins for multiple years.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 11:19 amAre you saying Gary had multiple double digit win seasons?AgMac wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 10:02 amI think we're letting more recent events cloud Aggie football history. Gary 2.0 was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. But Gary 1.0 changed the entire culture of USU football. He left a stacked team that had double digit wins for years (despite relying on 3rd and 4th string QBs).
Rip Gary apart all you want for his second stint here, but Gary changed Aggie football.
Fortunately, and despite my vagueness, we can look at actual historical records and verify that Gary's team, while he was here, did not have double digit wins in multiple years. Neither did Gary's team have double digit wins after Gary left (by 2018, it was not Gary's team). By default, the correct interpretation is No. 2. Hope that helps.
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Burr, I just got Déjà vu chills.Redwolf wrote: ↑December 14th, 2020, 1:40 pmUs stAte fans thank you for taking Anderson off our hands. We were afraid that we would be stuck with him for another couple of years. Our program has been on the decline for the last 3-4 years and we are hoping Butch Jones can come in and straighten out Anderson’s mess quickly. Anderson is a great guy, but just an average coach. If he was good, he would have been off to a better job years ago. He was just good enough not to get fired but not good enough to land a bigger gig. Hopefully he leaves your program in better shape than he found it. He sure didn’t here.
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Re: Blake Anderson??
Matt seemed "this" close to being a goner. He owes Hartwell millions for forcing him to hire Yoast and start playing Love over Myers.
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