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Re: New Poll
What ever your preference I suppose. I went with who I think it will be and that is the same person as who I want.
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Re: New Poll
I think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
Other: Sean Lewis. Although I think Leipold would be my top choice from that list.
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Re: New Poll
I like Maile personally, but if he is our best option we are in trouble as a program.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 11:25 amI think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
Why do you think that? Do you think all the people we have interviewed including Jay Hill will turn us down?LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 11:25 amI think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
Yeah, I'd take Jay Hill 20 times before I would even think about offering Maile.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 3:08 pmWhy do you think that? Do you think all the people we have interviewed including Jay Hill will turn us down?LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 11:25 amI think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
I dont really think it will be him. I think he has about a 15% chance. But I know nothing so I give every other person about a 10% chance. So Frank has the best chance, but it wont be him.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 3:08 pmWhy do you think that? Do you think all the people we have interviewed including Jay Hill will turn us down?LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 11:25 amI think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
Fair enough. I think the small chance that Maile had of getting the job ended last Thursday.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 3:52 pmI dont really think it will be him. I think he has about a 15% chance. But I know nothing so I give every other person about a 10% chance. So Frank has the best chance, but it wont be him.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 3:08 pmWhy do you think that? Do you think all the people we have interviewed including Jay Hill will turn us down?LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 11:25 amI think it will be Maile, not my top choice, but it could be worse. I think we strike out with the bigger names.
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Re: New Poll
Its gonna be a dud like Leipold or Holtz, but it should be one of the other, younger guys.
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Re: New Poll
Why would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
This was talked about in another thread. The guy is barely above .500 with a school in a conference that is usually 1 rank behind MWC in conference rankings...Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
He's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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That is a weird way to look at it. When you take over a bad program your overall record is naturally not going to be great for a while because results aren't going to be immediate. The last 3 years he is 10-4, 8-5 and 4-0. Look at what he has built, not the few years he was building.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
Leipold would be a big meh hire.
2020: 4-0 this year and his opponents combined record is 5-11.
2019: lost to 3 pretty "meh" teams in Liberty, Miami Ohio, and Kent State (Kent State team we lost to)
2018: Did beat a Big 10 team in Rutgers, but got killed by Ohio again.
Just pretty "meh" overall man...
2020: 4-0 this year and his opponents combined record is 5-11.
2019: lost to 3 pretty "meh" teams in Liberty, Miami Ohio, and Kent State (Kent State team we lost to)
2018: Did beat a Big 10 team in Rutgers, but got killed by Ohio again.
Just pretty "meh" overall man...
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Re: New Poll
I would be very excited to have Holtz or Leipold. Would prefer Holtz. I would rather get someone who has proven they can win as a head coach with restricted (but still lesser) resources. I feel much better about a case like that than Harrell. Either way, I trust John.splintorb wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:52 pmLeipold would be a big meh hire.
2020: 4-0 this year and his opponents combined record is 5-11.
2019: lost to 3 pretty "meh" teams in Liberty, Miami Ohio, and Kent State (Kent State team we lost to)
2018: Did beat a Big 10 team in Rutgers, but got killed by Ohio again.
Just pretty "meh" overall man...
Holtz or Leipold would very much fit the profile of the Craig Smith hire.
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Re: New Poll
Looking at Holtz' Wikipedia now. Yup, he'd be good as well. I'd take either Holtz or Leipold and feel good about it.GeoAg wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:07 pmI would be very excited to have Holtz or Leipold. Would prefer Holtz. I would rather get someone who has proven they can win as a head coach with restricted (but still lesser) resources. I feel much better about a case like that than Harrell. Either way, I trust John.splintorb wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:52 pmLeipold would be a big meh hire.
2020: 4-0 this year and his opponents combined record is 5-11.
2019: lost to 3 pretty "meh" teams in Liberty, Miami Ohio, and Kent State (Kent State team we lost to)
2018: Did beat a Big 10 team in Rutgers, but got killed by Ohio again.
Just pretty "meh" overall man...
Holtz or Leipold would very much fit the profile of the Craig Smith hire.
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Re: New Poll
He is 4-0 at Buffalo this year with his offense putting up over 40 in every game including 70 against Sean Lewis's Kent State team. The only negative is he isn't an "up and comer," but I believe he would win here just as any 35 year old would.splintorb wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:52 pmLeipold would be a big meh hire.
2020: 4-0 this year and his opponents combined record is 5-11.
2019: lost to 3 pretty "meh" teams in Liberty, Miami Ohio, and Kent State (Kent State team we lost to)
2018: Did beat a Big 10 team in Rutgers, but got killed by Ohio again.
Just pretty "meh" overall man...
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Re: New Poll
I can't think of a better way to look at a coach, other than his win/loss record. NOT looking at his win loss record would be weird.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:35 pmThat is a weird way to look at it. When you take over a bad program your overall record is naturally not going to be great for a while because results aren't going to be immediate. The last 3 years he is 10-4, 8-5 and 4-0. Look at what he has built, not the few years he was building.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
That's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
We are looking at his win loss record. He is 10-4, 8-5 and 4-0 over the past 3 years. Most people would agree Gary Andersen did a pretty good job here his first go around even though overall he was just 26-24. People judge him on what he built, not his first few years when he was building.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:23 pmI can't think of a better way to look at a coach, other than his win/loss record. NOT looking at his win loss record would be weird.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:35 pmThat is a weird way to look at it. When you take over a bad program your overall record is naturally not going to be great for a while because results aren't going to be immediate. The last 3 years he is 10-4, 8-5 and 4-0. Look at what he has built, not the few years he was building.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
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Re: New Poll
That's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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Re: New Poll
I was actually agreeing with you my Aggie brother. I was being facetious.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:31 pmThat's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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Re: New Poll
Hard to argue he is past his prime when his team is undefeated and putting up over 40 points a game.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:31 pmThat's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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New Poll
I think it’s a decent list if these are indeed the candidates that have been interviewed.
Jay Hill
Sean Lewis
Lance Leipold
Skip Holtz
Willie Fritz
Graham Herrell
Frank Maile
Jeff Grimes
Jay Hill
Sean Lewis
Lance Leipold
Skip Holtz
Willie Fritz
Graham Herrell
Frank Maile
Jeff Grimes
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Re: New Poll
Yeah, in the mighty MAC. He's 56 and his record was built at Wisconsin-Whitewater.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:18 pmHard to argue he is past his prime when his team is undefeated and putting up over 40 points a game.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:31 pmThat's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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Re: New Poll
I'm not saying that he would be a home run higher but I do think that he would be a solid hire. I would take him over maile any day of the week.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:28 pmYeah, in the mighty MAC. He's 56 and his record was built at Wisconsin-Whitewater.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:18 pmHard to argue he is past his prime when his team is undefeated and putting up over 40 points a game.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:31 pmThat's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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Re: New Poll
We are either going to be hiring a coach from the Mac or Big Sky unless we go the coordinator route. His record at Wisconsin White Water was incredible and he has turned Buffalo into a winner. I'd wait until he loses a game this year before saying he is past his prime. Nothing suggests he is past his prime other than his age. 56 isn't that old in coaching. That is how old Nick Saban was in his first season at Alabama.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:28 pmYeah, in the mighty MAC. He's 56 and his record was built at Wisconsin-Whitewater.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:18 pmHard to argue he is past his prime when his team is undefeated and putting up over 40 points a game.2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:31 pmThat's great if you like him. At least when Gary was here he wasn't past his prime and had gone higher on the coaching ladder than Buffalo and Wisconsin-Whitewater and Gary was familiar with Utah. Gary had coached under Urban Meyer and Kyle Whittinham.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 5:25 pmThat's my hang up as well. Remind me again, what was Gary's record here?2004AG wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:02 pmHe's 56 and the highest he's ever gotten is Buffalo? No thanks. And he's 35-32 at Buffalo. No thanks.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 4:00 pmWhy would Leipold be a dud? Just because a guy is older doesn't mean he isn't a great coach. He clearly knows how to win football games.
Gary 1.0 and Lance Leipold have almost nothing in common.
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Re: New Poll
I’m not sold on Leipold. He seems like a Craig Bohl type hire. He did great building North Dakota St into a FCS powerhouse but hasn’t exactly lit it up in the Mountain West. If we are going that route may as well go with Hill. He’s younger and has a brighter future IMO.
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Re: New Poll
Hartwell is gonna drag this on for another few weeks just to torture us and drive us all crazy.
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Re: New Poll
That is something we can agree on. It has taken longer than it should have. The one advantage of firing a coach 3 games into the season is he should have had a lot of time. Other programs are hiring coaches. It is time we should too.