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You are absolutely right. Look at Nevada and their offense Mumme has been there for a lot of years and look how they improved. Same thing with SJSU. We can't have a carousel of assistant coaches coming and going and expect to be successful. We need to have some continuity.Aggieiester wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:35 amI think that stability in the coordinators is as big of an issue as the head coach. How many offensive coordinators has Jordan had in his four years? Three? Probably the same number of position coaches too.taniataylor wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:23 amA good HC will have good coordinators and assistants AND let them do their job. I believe Maile would be a great HC because of his recruiting ability, stability at USU, relationship to the players ( and ability to build with new ones).
Technically the O & D coordinators should be the experience ones that he looks for.
If the coordinators do their job, then the HC job is to make sure everything else falls into place.
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The reality is very few schools have stability with coordinators. It just doesn't work that way. Occasionally you'll get a Bud Foster or a Norm Chow who is there forever, but if a coordinator is doing well he'll most likely become a Head Coach and if he is not doing well, he'll get fired or demoted.
Go look at Nick Saban's run at Alabama. There is no coordinator stability. Because of their success, he is constantly losing coordinators.
Go look at Nick Saban's run at Alabama. There is no coordinator stability. Because of their success, he is constantly losing coordinators.
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Yes, 3.Aggieiester wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:35 amI think that stability in the coordinators is as big of an issue as the head coach. How many offensive coordinators has Jordan had in his four years? Three? Probably the same number of position coaches too.taniataylor wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:23 amA good HC will have good coordinators and assistants AND let them do their job. I believe Maile would be a great HC because of his recruiting ability, stability at USU, relationship to the players ( and ability to build with new ones).
Technically the O & D coordinators should be the experience ones that he looks for.
If the coordinators do their job, then the HC job is to make sure everything else falls into place.
Stability with a HC will trickle down. All coaches and assistant coaches are now on the hot seat as well
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We can't just bring in a new coach and hope he will solve it. We have to bring in a high level supporting cast. I'd like to see some discussion about possible position coaches and coordinators in this conversation. I think it's key we have a massive recruiting tunnel to speed and the Polynesian community. If a new coach comes in with the right staff next year could be fun! we have some great talent on this team if it is used right. If you can get that blue-collar, chip on their shoulder attitude it can work miracles. We know that, we have seen it. We know what we are looking for that is what is different this time around.
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Matt Lubick is a very intriguing candidate to me. He is a solid OC who has a ton of success developing WR's over the years. He has quite a few connections to the mountain west and the region in general. He is only 48 and from Bozeman Montana might be worth a look.
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What I want in a coach:
- Good leader - cultivates competition, personal responsibility, and accountability. Teaches others to lead.
- Knows his strengths and weaknesses - hires ACs who give strength to his weak areas
- Hire well, and let ACs do their job, free to experiment, expect improvement
- Plays a fun brand of football - no matter the scheme, players like playing an aggressive kind of football and fans like watching it.
- Build and provide a network of support for the players
Help players engage with the community - Work with the AD to ensure facilities, equipment, living conditions are all good and becoming great.
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What happened at Washington? He had a weird ending there.jeffdan25 wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 1:03 pmMatt Lubick is a very intriguing candidate to me. He is a solid OC who has a ton of success developing WR's over the years. He has quite a few connections to the mountain west and the region in general. He is only 48 and from Bozeman Montana might be worth a look.
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I can't say for sure because I don't know the dude, but from articles I have read he sounded burnt out. He was also a 40 something year old bachelor so alot of what I have read was him stating he wanted time away from football to build a relationship. still is strange though.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 2:38 pmWhat happened at Washington? He had a weird ending there.jeffdan25 wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 1:03 pmMatt Lubick is a very intriguing candidate to me. He is a solid OC who has a ton of success developing WR's over the years. He has quite a few connections to the mountain west and the region in general. He is only 48 and from Bozeman Montana might be worth a look.
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Yeah I am not alleging anything crazy, but we just made a mistake hiring a guy after a recent "weird exit." I don't know if we want to go down that route again. And it isn't like he is burning up the field at Nebraska this year. Granted it is just 2 games so a small sample size, but Nebraska's offense hasn't exactly been impressive this year.jeffdan25 wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 3:09 pmI can't say for sure because I don't know the dude, but from articles I have read he sounded burnt out. He was also a 40 something year old bachelor so alot of what I have read was him stating he wanted time away from football to build a relationship. still is strange though.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 2:38 pmWhat happened at Washington? He had a weird ending there.jeffdan25 wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 1:03 pmMatt Lubick is a very intriguing candidate to me. He is a solid OC who has a ton of success developing WR's over the years. He has quite a few connections to the mountain west and the region in general. He is only 48 and from Bozeman Montana might be worth a look.
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I put my faith in Hartwell however, please, please PLEASE no more assistants from Utah(or BYU for that matter). I really believe that Gary tried to follow KWhit's formula at Utah and their castoff players. BYU is having a good season, yes, but didn't Wells have one good year after several down years?
Let the National Search begin.
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I hear they are also looking at an Oregon assistant also!
Not that my .02 cents means jack but I can later this week, share my thoughts on some of the names mentioned on here...Just my experiences with a few in-person, email, text, phone having gone thru the recruiting last year with Broc and how these men sold their programs, interacted with my son as a player, person, student, etc., plus a few experiences with some of them during visits at their campuses...and such!!
Not that my .02 cents means jack but I can later this week, share my thoughts on some of the names mentioned on here...Just my experiences with a few in-person, email, text, phone having gone thru the recruiting last year with Broc and how these men sold their programs, interacted with my son as a player, person, student, etc., plus a few experiences with some of them during visits at their campuses...and such!!
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Awesome. I would love to hear this. I would also love to hear Your sons feelings towards Frank too.AZ4AggieNation wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 4:21 pmI hear they are also looking at an Oregon assistant also!
Not that my .02 cents means jack but I can later this week, share my thoughts on some of the names mentioned on here...Just my experiences with a few in-person, email, text, phone having gone thru the recruiting last year with Broc and how these men sold their programs, interacted with my son as a player, person, student, etc., plus a few experiences with some of them during visits at their campuses...and such!!
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I had heard from a pretty reliable source a few years ago that when our offense was struggling under Wells. . Hartwell got involved and was looking for a new offensive coordinator to work with Matt.. He looked at Lubick and actually traveled to the Northwest to talk to him. At that time Lubbick wasn't interested in coming to Utah State but pointed him in the direction of David Yost who was looking for job at the time. There is connection there.jeffdan25 wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 1:03 pmMatt Lubick is a very intriguing candidate to me. He is a solid OC who has a ton of success developing WR's over the years. He has quite a few connections to the mountain west and the region in general. He is only 48 and from Bozeman Montana might be worth a look.
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Serious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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You're asking if Utah State could get in trouble for not hiring a guy with zero head coaching experience, really only 3.5 years of coordinator experience, and only one coaching stop outside of Logan?BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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Has he ever interviewed for the gig? 2018 would have been the only time if he did. Gary was the wrong hire then, but maile would not have been the right hire just as he wouldn't be the right one now.BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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He did not interview in 2018.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:51 pmHas he ever interviewed for the gig? 2018 would have been the only time if he did. Gary was the wrong hire then, but maile would not have been the right hire just as he wouldn't be the right one now.BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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Well i guess we wont be punished by the ncaa then. Good, that was a close call.Elkaggie wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:14 pmHe did not interview in 2018.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:51 pmHas he ever interviewed for the gig? 2018 would have been the only time if he did. Gary was the wrong hire then, but maile would not have been the right hire just as he wouldn't be the right one now.BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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Correction. I believe they are formally known as "the wacko lib NCAA."Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:34 pmWell i guess we wont be punished by the ncaa then. Good, that was a close call.Elkaggie wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 10:14 pmHe did not interview in 2018.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:51 pmHas he ever interviewed for the gig? 2018 would have been the only time if he did. Gary was the wrong hire then, but maile would not have been the right hire just as he wouldn't be the right one now.BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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Any chance we could land a successful current G5 head coach from a lesser conference? We could likely get close to doubling their salary. Some names to consider:
Billy Napier (Louisiana) - I saw them pick off a really good Iowa State team earlier this season and the Rajin Cajuns are good. He's been an OC at CSU and Arizona State and also coached under Dabo Sweeney and that Alabama coach ;-). He's actually making close to 900K so we probably couldn't give him a salary increase, but would be a more competitive conference.
Jamey Chadwell (Coastal Carolina) - Has quickly built a top 15 team out of new FBS program. The dude is doing something right. He doesn't have any experience west of Tennessee however. Currently makes 375K
Lance Leipold (Buffalo) - They have been very good the last few years under his leadership. He also built a WIAC super power at Wisconsin-Whitewater before that. Currently makes 465K
Sean Lewis (Kent State) - He took over a depleted program and built them into MAC contenders. They did beat us in the Frisco bowl last year so he's got that going for him and some familiarity with us (and us with him) even though he hasn't coached west of Omaha. Currently makes 440K
I don't think we have a shot at Liberty's head coach. LOL. Hugh Freeze is making 2 million there.
Billy Napier (Louisiana) - I saw them pick off a really good Iowa State team earlier this season and the Rajin Cajuns are good. He's been an OC at CSU and Arizona State and also coached under Dabo Sweeney and that Alabama coach ;-). He's actually making close to 900K so we probably couldn't give him a salary increase, but would be a more competitive conference.
Jamey Chadwell (Coastal Carolina) - Has quickly built a top 15 team out of new FBS program. The dude is doing something right. He doesn't have any experience west of Tennessee however. Currently makes 375K
Lance Leipold (Buffalo) - They have been very good the last few years under his leadership. He also built a WIAC super power at Wisconsin-Whitewater before that. Currently makes 465K
Sean Lewis (Kent State) - He took over a depleted program and built them into MAC contenders. They did beat us in the Frisco bowl last year so he's got that going for him and some familiarity with us (and us with him) even though he hasn't coached west of Omaha. Currently makes 440K
I don't think we have a shot at Liberty's head coach. LOL. Hugh Freeze is making 2 million there.
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Hugh Freeze is gross. May as well hire Art Briles.
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Oh yeah I agree. I'd rule out DJ Durkin as well.JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 10:42 amHugh Freeze is gross. May as well hire Art Briles.
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I would love Billy Napier but I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell we get him. If there is a single P5 job open this off season his name will be at the top of everyone's list.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 10:41 amAny chance we could land a successful current G5 head coach from a lesser conference? We could likely get close to doubling their salary. Some names to consider:
Billy Napier (Louisiana) - I saw them pick off a really good Iowa State team earlier this season and the Rajin Cajuns are good. He's been an OC at CSU and Arizona State and also coached under Dabo Sweeney and that Alabama coach ;-). He's actually making close to 900K so we probably couldn't give him a salary increase, but would be a more competitive conference.
Jamey Chadwell (Coastal Carolina) - Has quickly built a top 15 team out of new FBS program. The dude is doing something right. He doesn't have any experience west of Tennessee however. Currently makes 375K
Lance Leipold (Buffalo) - They have been very good the last few years under his leadership. He also built a WIAC super power at Wisconsin-Whitewater before that. Currently makes 465K
Sean Lewis (Kent State) - He took over a depleted program and built them into MAC contenders. They did beat us in the Frisco bowl last year so he's got that going for him and some familiarity with us (and us with him) even though he hasn't coached west of Omaha. Currently makes 440K
I don't think we have a shot at Liberty's head coach. LOL. Hugh Freeze is making 2 million there.
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Anyone else getting a little tired of every local newspaper article focusing on which incredible BYU assistant will be the new Aggie HC? Not saying 1 or 2 don't make the pool of candidates but it is like the entire world revolves around their little team that has beat the sisters of the poor this season.
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Who wouldn't want a BYU assistant? They are the BEEESSSSSSSTTTT. Just ask them.Aglicious wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 2:45 pmAnyone else getting a little tired of every local newspaper article focusing on which incredible BYU assistant will be the new Aggie HC? Not saying 1 or 2 don't make the pool of candidates but it is like the entire world revolves around their little team that has beat the sisters of the poor this season.
If we went local I'd prefer Morgan Scalley or Jay Hill over any of BYU's assistants save maybe Grimes.
All that said, I think Hartwell will look outside of Utah. I'm all in for Andy Avalos.
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I really though Sitake was going to get fired down in Provo. It's crazy how things can change so fast. And, yes, I hate how the media spins everything to appeal to the bigger school market.
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Nobody likes Grimes.
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stang wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:42 pmYou're asking if Utah State could get in trouble for not hiring a guy with zero head coaching experience, really only 3.5 years of coordinator experience, and only one coaching stop outside of Logan?BigSkyAG wrote: ↑November 10th, 2020, 8:33 pmSerious question: How many times can Frank interview and not get the gig? Could there be any backlash racially speaking? Norm Chow hinted at racial injustice years ago when he was spurned at the y. Is Hartwell under any pressure from the wacko lib NCAA? The same NCAA that tells Native Americans what they should and should not be offended at.
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spot on, and not intended to be a slam against Frank or other on the board who favor him. . There are just too many experienced, connected, solid, engaging and proven candidates to choose from. Trust John Hartwell to make a fine choice for Utah State.
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Why? He knows Texas and Florida and is young and energetic. He's an OC in the SEC.JFWAggie wrote:ArizonaAggie wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 7:03 pmBrian Johnson
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Ute castoffArizonaAggie wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 7:31 pmWhy? He knows Texas and Florida and is young and energetic. He's an OC in the SEC.JFWAggie wrote:ArizonaAggie wrote: ↑November 11th, 2020, 7:03 pmBrian Johnson
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