Thompson announces Boise may play less conference games to play BYU

FastAggie · Post by **FastAggie** » September 25th, 2020, 11:55 am

He mentioned in the MWC announcement Q&A. Because of the AFA and Army game one other team would have 7 conference games. I wish we'd get this game rather than the donkeys.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » September 25th, 2020, 12:01 pm

Money. I’m sure a BYU and Boise game has more national relevance than usu and BYU and thus a larger draw.

FastAggie · Post by **FastAggie** » September 25th, 2020, 12:06 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:01 pm
Money. I’m sure a BYU and Boise game has more national relevance than usu and BYU and thus a larger draw.

or cause Boise is great about whining and expecting special treatment

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » September 25th, 2020, 12:07 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:01 pm
Money. I’m sure a BYU and Boise game has more national relevance than usu and BYU and thus a larger draw.

Is "draw" even a thing anymore?

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » September 25th, 2020, 12:10 pm

I would hate to see YBU get any decent games on their schedule. Let them pat each other's butts for beating putrid teams!

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » September 25th, 2020, 12:22 pm

FastAggie wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:06 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:01 pm
Money. I’m sure a BYU and Boise game has more national relevance than usu and BYU and thus a larger draw.
or cause Boise is great about whining and expecting special treatment

I will give you that for sure.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » September 25th, 2020, 12:23 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:10 pm
I would hate to see YBU get any decent games on their schedule. Let them pat each other's butts for beating putrid teams!

I agree. And I hope we don’t play them. Kind of nice not to imo.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm

That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » September 25th, 2020, 12:53 pm

cool let them play each other, I don't care

thegreendalegelf · Post by **thegreendalegelf** » September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.

No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.

breadysmith · Post by **breadysmith** » September 25th, 2020, 2:18 pm

Also, remember that we want to revise our Boise and BYU home games and split them up. This could give us the opportunity to do that. Bump the @Provo game that is supposed to be played this year out to next year. We play Boise on the road this year and it provides us something we'd been trying to get aligned for awhile now.

I'm fine with not playing the zoobs...let them have the tater zoobs...they're meant for each other.

JonnyCienPesos · Post by **JonnyCienPesos** » September 25th, 2020, 2:22 pm

breadysmith wrote:Also, remember that we want to revise our Boise and BYU home games and split them up. This could give us the opportunity to do that. Bump the @Provo game that is supposed to be played this year out to next year. We play Boise on the road this year and it provides us something we'd been trying to get aligned for awhile now.

I'm fine with not playing the zoobs...let them have the tater zoobs...they're meant for each other.

So you want 3 of our 4 OOC games next year to be road games? With only North Dakota at home? That should do wonders for revenue.

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brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.

Win % is dumb. If a team goes 5 - 0 (100%) should they be division champ over a team that goes 6-2 or 7-1? The 5-0 team would have a better win percentage?

7 = 7

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » September 25th, 2020, 2:34 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.
7 = 7

7 > 6.

breadysmith · Post by **breadysmith** » September 25th, 2020, 2:35 pm

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:22 pm

breadysmith wrote:Also, remember that we want to revise our Boise and BYU home games and split them up. This could give us the opportunity to do that. Bump the @Provo game that is supposed to be played this year out to next year. We play Boise on the road this year and it provides us something we'd been trying to get aligned for awhile now.

I'm fine with not playing the zoobs...let them have the tater zoobs...they're meant for each other.
So you want 3 of our 4 OOC games next year to be road games? With only North Dakota at home? That should do wonders for revenue.

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Good point, we'd need to sort out that which might prove to be more work than it's worth.

Tetonkatest · Post by **Tetonkatest** » September 25th, 2020, 2:39 pm

FastAggie wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 11:55 am
He mentioned in the MWC announcement Q&A. Because of the AFA and Army game one other team would have 7 conference games. I wish we'd get this game rather than the donkeys.

Yes, I watched the press conference with Thompson.

It's because Air Force already has a game with Army on November 7 so they need to find an opponent for 1 of the other conference schools on that date, or else they won't have anyone to play

My guess is that Boise asked to play byu and skip Air Force and Whoever plays byu misses Air force.

Tetonkatest · Post by **Tetonkatest** » September 25th, 2020, 2:40 pm

FastAggie wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:06 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:01 pm
Money. I’m sure a BYU and Boise game has more national relevance than usu and BYU and thus a larger draw.
or cause Boise is great about whining and expecting special treatment

i don't think it is special treament it is because of the air force issues. of course boise and usu were probably the top schools to play byu

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » September 25th, 2020, 4:19 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:34 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.
7 = 7
7 > 6.

13 = 13

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » September 25th, 2020, 4:27 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:19 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:34 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.
7 = 7
7 > 6.
13 = 13

8k>32k
And
2+2=5

Don’t ask, sandbox discussion

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » September 25th, 2020, 4:32 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:27 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:19 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:34 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.
7 = 7
7 > 6.
13 = 13
8k>32k
And
2+2=5

Don’t ask, sandbox discussion

Haha, mine was just a shout out to someone who used to post here.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » September 25th, 2020, 4:38 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:32 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:27 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 4:19 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:34 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 2:33 pm

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
September 25th, 2020, 12:24 pm
That's fine, but if a team goes 7-0 and another team is 7-1 I think championship tie-breaking should favor the 7-1 team.
No it shouldn't. It should be based on win percentage. So if Boise drops a conference game, they risk going 6-1 and not having using head to head to decide the division against a team that goes 7-1.
7 = 7
7 > 6.
13 = 13
8k>32k
And
2+2=5

Don’t ask, sandbox discussion
Haha, mine was just a shout out to someone who used to post here.

Haha yes, he has been missed on the board!

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » September 25th, 2020, 10:57 pm

Fewer. Fewer games

Ahbye · Post by **Ahbye** » September 25th, 2020, 11:51 pm

I'm sure it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Boise has trouble beating Air Force.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » September 26th, 2020, 1:46 pm

I would love to see Boise suffer the consequences for begging out of a conference game to play BYU. But if they go 7-0, they will be undefeated in the division. The team that Boise skips will also only play 7 conference games, so they can't go 7-1. It is possible that both Boise and that other team end up at 7-0, so you will have to figure out a tie breaker. But I don't see how it is possible for Boise to end up 7-0 and another divisional team end up at 7-1 unless they lost to Boise. You'd have a hard time arguing that a 7-1 team that lost to the head to head with Boise should go in front of an undefeated Boise.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » September 26th, 2020, 2:37 pm

swordsman1989 wrote: ↑
September 26th, 2020, 1:46 pm
I would love to see Boise suffer the consequences for begging out of a conference game to play BYU. But if they go 7-0, they will be undefeated in the division. The team that Boise skips will also only play 7 conference games, so they can't go 7-1. It is possible that both Boise and that other team end up at 7-0, so you will have to figure out a tie breaker. But I don't see how it is possible for Boise to end up 7-0 and another divisional team end up at 7-1 unless they lost to Boise. You'd have a hard time arguing that a 7-1 team that lost to the head to head with Boise should go in front of an undefeated Boise.

Why should the stench game matter in the standings? 7 is greater than 6.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » September 26th, 2020, 10:47 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
September 26th, 2020, 2:37 pm

swordsman1989 wrote: ↑
September 26th, 2020, 1:46 pm
I would love to see Boise suffer the consequences for begging out of a conference game to play BYU. But if they go 7-0, they will be undefeated in the division. The team that Boise skips will also only play 7 conference games, so they can't go 7-1. It is possible that both Boise and that other team end up at 7-0, so you will have to figure out a tie breaker. But I don't see how it is possible for Boise to end up 7-0 and another divisional team end up at 7-1 unless they lost to Boise. You'd have a hard time arguing that a 7-1 team that lost to the head to head with Boise should go in front of an undefeated Boise.
Why should the stench game matter in the standings? 7 is greater than 6.

Where was BYU mentioned as counting in the standings, and where did I mention 6? The MWC is going to play an eight game, conference only schedule. Boise wants out of one of those games so it can play BYU. So Boise will play only seven conference games. Since Boise is skipping a game, one other team will also have to only play seven conference games as they will miss their game against Boise. Presumably it will be Air Force since they want to play Navy (or is it Army?). So let's say Boise and Air Force only play seven conference games and both go 7-0 in the conference, regardless of what happens in their games against BYU and Navy. What would be the tie breaker between Boise and Air Force? If Boise ends up going 7-0 but Air Force drops a game or more, then Boise will have defeated every other team in the Mountain division and the best possible conference record another Mountain division team could have would be 7-1 with a loss to Boise. So how do you justify taking a 7-1 team which lost to Boise over a 7-0 Boise team? And how on earth do you come up with the BYU game counting in that scenario?

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