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Post by ineptimusprime » May 14th, 2020, 9:42 pm

I’m down!



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Post by Jjoey52 » May 14th, 2020, 9:48 pm

Sounds good f he comes to Logan, burning the Utes is just some nice icing on the cake.
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Post by slcagg » May 14th, 2020, 10:05 pm

Wow if true that would be great. Here is a little video about him from his freshman year.




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Post by slcagg » May 14th, 2020, 10:08 pm

Let me say this. If he does in fact transfer he will have some high level interest.



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Post by Cheecho6 » May 14th, 2020, 10:32 pm

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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by usufan1 » May 14th, 2020, 10:41 pm

I know this is off topic... at the end of the video they show the players with a box to "light the U".

Does anyone know who had this idea first, USU or the Utes?

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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by Real Life Aggie » May 14th, 2020, 10:43 pm

Seems like a cool dude, and clearly a talented player. If he comes up here, I'd be super excited! But, with possible NBA interest and the likelihood of other, higher-level programs calling... He's gotta do what he believes is best for him.



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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » May 14th, 2020, 10:44 pm

Would be a great get but I assume he’d have to sit a year unless the rule changes, correct? Does it make sense to transfer and sit if you felt you were close to being NBA draftable?



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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by aggies22 » May 14th, 2020, 11:06 pm

Gach lived in Minnesota for a time. That was prime recruiting grounds for Coach Smith and the boys while they coached in South Dakota.
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by ineptimusprime » May 14th, 2020, 11:08 pm

Imagine how refreshing it’s gotta be for these Utah guys to go play for a coach that isn’t a little b#^*%?
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by SLB » May 14th, 2020, 11:10 pm

With Gach, Utah is at the NCAA maximum of 13 scholarships for the 2020-21 season. It was reported by 247sports’ Evan Daniels earlier this week that Utah was among a handful of schools to contact Georgetown’s Mac McClung after the sophomore guard announced his intention to transfer.
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Post by AggieUprising50 » May 14th, 2020, 11:27 pm

I watched him play when my friend invited me to see Utah play Oregon.

He was by far Utah’s best player that game. Freak athlete that has a lot of talent. He would thrive under Coach Smith.



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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » May 14th, 2020, 11:54 pm

usufan1 wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 10:41 pm
I know this is off topic... at the end of the video they show the players with a box to "light the U".

Does anyone know who had this idea first, USU or the Utes?

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Yeah that's a rip off of Lighting the A. Just like BYU is building or already built their own version of Old Main.



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Post by slcagg » May 15th, 2020, 6:05 am

aggies22 wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 11:06 pm
Gach lived in Minnesota for a time. That was prime recruiting grounds for Coach Smith and the boys while they coached in South Dakota.
Interesting.

As far as sitting out you’d think that playing for coach k would be considered a hardship. 😁
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » May 15th, 2020, 7:12 am

That would be a very big pickup. Hope it happens.

Krysto is going to get fired after this next season. You can't keep losing your best players every year and sustain a program. He is turning into Jim Boylen.
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by slcagg » May 15th, 2020, 7:23 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 7:12 am
That would be a very big pickup. Hope it happens.

Krysto is going to get fired after this next season. You can't keep losing your best players every year and sustain a program. He is turning into Jim Boylen.
Unfortunately I think Utah will do well enough next year that he won’t get fired. Unless they have more transfers. They have a very good recruiting class and some talented underclass guys returning.



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » May 15th, 2020, 7:53 am

slcagg wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 7:23 am
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May 15th, 2020, 7:12 am
That would be a very big pickup. Hope it happens.

Krysto is going to get fired after this next season. You can't keep losing your best players every year and sustain a program. He is turning into Jim Boylen.
Unfortunately I think Utah will do well enough next year that he won’t get fired. Unless they have more transfers. They have a very good recruiting class and some talented underclass guys returning.
We'll see. Timmy Allen declared for the draft. Losing him and Gach are big losses for a team that wasn't good anyway. And I don't think Ian Martinez and Caleb Lohner are going to get you wins in the Pac right away.
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Post by slcagg » May 15th, 2020, 8:10 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 7:53 am
slcagg wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 7:23 am
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May 15th, 2020, 7:12 am
That would be a very big pickup. Hope it happens.

Krysto is going to get fired after this next season. You can't keep losing your best players every year and sustain a program. He is turning into Jim Boylen.
Unfortunately I think Utah will do well enough next year that he won’t get fired. Unless they have more transfers. They have a very good recruiting class and some talented underclass guys returning.
We'll see. Timmy Allen declared for the draft. Losing him and Gach are big losses for a team that wasn't good anyway. And I don't think Ian Martinez and Caleb Lohner are going to get you wins in the Pac right away.
I don't think Timmy Allen will stay in the draft, at least he isn't on draft boards. But who knows. Timmy Allen, Jones I am 12 years old and the Martinez will be a good backcourt. Plus a bench of the kid from Millville and Lohner should be pretty good. Don't know who they have for bigs but most are projecting them to be pretty solid next year if Allen and Gach return. Gach obviously not returning.



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Post by Roy McAvoy » May 15th, 2020, 8:24 am

Sources tell me Gach won't be the last player to transfer away from Utah in the near future. What a dumpster fire.
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Post by slcagg » May 15th, 2020, 8:42 am

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Sources tell me Gach won't be the last player to transfer away from Utah in the near future. What a dumpster fire.
Great welcome Gach and Mr Millville to the greatest college experience in the state.



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Post by Roy McAvoy » May 15th, 2020, 8:43 am

slcagg wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 8:42 am
Roy McAvoy wrote:
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Sources tell me Gach won't be the last player to transfer away from Utah in the near future. What a dumpster fire.
Great welcome Gach and Mr Millville to the greatest college experience in the state.
Meh. We don't want Mr. Milllville. Let waste his time away at the U of U.
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Post by newhouse9 » May 15th, 2020, 9:03 am

I hope the U keeps LK until he dies. They'll suck even longer.
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Post by Madmartigan » May 15th, 2020, 9:08 am

Does Both Gach realize USU is not even in the PAC-12? Mind boggling he'd even consider a lesser basketball program and conference. :devil:



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Post by Jjoey52 » May 15th, 2020, 10:59 am

Madmartigan wrote:
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Does Both Gach realize USU is not even in the PAC-12? Mind boggling he'd even consider a lesser basketball program and conference. :devil:
USU is getting to the tourney niw Utes are not, not a big difference in programs, plus USU has Queta. The MW is a very good conference, very competitive with the PAC.

Didn’t the transfer rule get changed where sitting a year is no longer required?


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Post by SLB » May 15th, 2020, 11:16 am

Checking the twiiter on Both Gach's story, and it may have some truth to it.
Gach fellows people who are linked to Utah State and T. Barnes, and Gach follows Summit League colleges which is where Craig Smith used to be head coach before coming here.
Gach is also from Minnesota which is where Craig Smith is from.



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Post by Bank Shot » May 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm

This was alluded to another thread, but after looking at Gath's stats and seeing he's a 25% shooter from 3pt area, it's weird that we get so excited about guys that shoot worse than Miller/Brito/Porter. And add to that his assist to turnover ration is 1:1. Having said that, I would be glad to land him IF he can defend like nobody's business. I think that's an area that us armchair coaches are missing when looking at potential recruits. Losing Sam and Brito is an area that leaves gaping holes in our perimeter defense.
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Post by gomretat » May 15th, 2020, 12:29 pm

Bank Shot wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm
This was alluded to another thread, but after looking at Gath's stats and seeing he's a 25% shooter from 3pt area, it's weird that we get so excited about guys that shoot worse than Miller/Brito/Porter. And add to that his assist to turnover ration is 1:1. Having said that, I would be glad to land him IF he can defend like nobody's business. I think that's an area that us armchair coaches are missing when looking at potential recruits. Losing Sam and Brito is an area that leaves gaping holes in our perimeter defense.
Great point. Seems like we are getting a bit desperate for some good news on the recruiting front and getting anyone from a P5 seems like good news. I didn't watch 1 minute of UofU basketball last year so other than stats I have no basis for an opinion.



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Post by slcagg » May 15th, 2020, 12:43 pm

Bank Shot wrote:
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This was alluded to another thread, but after looking at Gath's stats and seeing he's a 25% shooter from 3pt area, it's weird that we get so excited about guys that shoot worse than Miller/Brito/Porter. And add to that his assist to turnover ration is 1:1. Having said that, I would be glad to land him IF he can defend like nobody's business. I think that's an area that us armchair coaches are missing when looking at potential recruits. Losing Sam and Brito is an area that leaves gaping holes in our perimeter defense.
You do realize this kid has skills that the others you listed don’t have? Plus you’d 2-3 years to further develop him.



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Post by Roy McAvoy » May 15th, 2020, 12:45 pm

gomretat wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:29 pm
Bank Shot wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm
This was alluded to another thread, but after looking at Gath's stats and seeing he's a 25% shooter from 3pt area, it's weird that we get so excited about guys that shoot worse than Miller/Brito/Porter. And add to that his assist to turnover ration is 1:1. Having said that, I would be glad to land him IF he can defend like nobody's business. I think that's an area that us armchair coaches are missing when looking at potential recruits. Losing Sam and Brito is an area that leaves gaping holes in our perimeter defense.
Great point. Seems like we are getting a bit desperate for some good news on the recruiting front and getting anyone from a P5 seems like good news. I didn't watch 1 minute of UofU basketball last year so other than stats I have no basis for an opinion.
Gach would be a big time get for us. This has obviously changed now, but earlier this year Gach was showing up on NBA draft boards ahead of Merrill. He has a ton of natural athleticism, length, and talent.

Ute fans lament that supposedly he basically checked out this year once it was evident that things with Utah bball weren't going anywhere and he wanted to be somewhere else (e.g Logan) even during the season.
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by 2004AG » May 15th, 2020, 12:46 pm

If Abel Porter can play at Ohio State, this guy can play at Utah State.


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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State

Post by Bank Shot » May 15th, 2020, 1:09 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:45 pm
gomretat wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:29 pm
Bank Shot wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:22 pm
This was alluded to another thread, but after looking at Gath's stats and seeing he's a 25% shooter from 3pt area, it's weird that we get so excited about guys that shoot worse than Miller/Brito/Porter. And add to that his assist to turnover ration is 1:1. Having said that, I would be glad to land him IF he can defend like nobody's business. I think that's an area that us armchair coaches are missing when looking at potential recruits. Losing Sam and Brito is an area that leaves gaping holes in our perimeter defense.
Great point. Seems like we are getting a bit desperate for some good news on the recruiting front and getting anyone from a P5 seems like good news. I didn't watch 1 minute of UofU basketball last year so other than stats I have no basis for an opinion.
Gach would be a big time get for us. This was obviously changed now, but earlier this year Gach was showing up on NBA draft boards ahead of Merrill. He has a ton of natural athleticism, length, and talent.

Ute fans lament that supposedly he basically checked out this year once it was evident that things with Utah bball weren't going anywhere and he wanted to be somewhere else (e.g Logan) even during the season.
Thanks for the input, as obviously you have seen the kid play. It struck me at first as a strange set of choices. Either declare for the draft or sit out a year. I guess he just wants the heck out of Krystoville. I'm still under the impression that the transfer rule will not be changed this year and a waiver is pretty unlikely, and if he was already being considered an NBA prospect then I would think 2021-22 might be a one and done deal for us.



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Post by ususports » May 15th, 2020, 2:14 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:45 pm
Ute fans lament that supposedly he basically checked out this year once it was evident that things with Utah bball weren't going anywhere and he wanted to be somewhere else (e.g Logan) even during the season.
Shoots 25% from three, and he is a quitter. Sweet! :joking:



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Post by brownjeans » May 15th, 2020, 2:17 pm

I like him. He seems to have a lot of different tools in his toolbox.
Most the Ute players are inefficient - so I think that's a symptom of the coach and system. Gach would become more efficient playing for Smith.



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pm

2004AG wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 12:46 pm
If Abel Porter can play at Ohio State, this guy can play at Utah State.


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I want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.



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