Skiing at Sherwood Hills

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » November 28th, 2024, 9:28 pm

A question for the old timers here:

Does any of you remember skiing at Sherwood Hills? My dad was telling me about skiing up there in the mid-50s. He said they had an old rope tow on a motor to pull you to the top of the hill and then you'd ski down to the highway.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » November 29th, 2024, 9:30 am

I have never hear that. But my in-laws spent their honeymoon there in the Donny and Marie room... I can't imagine anything more romantic...

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » November 29th, 2024, 7:56 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:30 am
I have never hear that. But my in-laws spent their honeymoon there in the Donny and Marie room... I can't imagine anything more romantic...

Ha! That's funny. My wife and I stayed their once ourselves, very underwhelming. From what I can tell the only thing special about Sherwood Hills Inn was there used to be a bomb restaurant there???? The hotel/motel itself wasn't anything special, that's for sure. I also remember that every Halloween they had a haunted forest that seemed like it would be pretty interesting but I never tried it.

pilotaggie · Post by **pilotaggie** » November 29th, 2024, 8:15 pm

ViAggie wrote:
LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:30 am
I have never hear that. But my in-laws spent their honeymoon there in the Donny and Marie room... I can't imagine anything more romantic...
Ha! That's funny. My wife and I stayed their once ourselves, very underwhelming. From what I can tell the only thing special about Sherwood Hills Inn was there used to be a bomb restaurant there???? The hotel/motel itself wasn't anything special, that's for sure. I also remember that every Halloween they had a haunted forest that seemed like it would be pretty interesting but I never tried it.

I went to the haunted forest one year. I really liked it. Better than most I've been to.

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WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » November 29th, 2024, 8:30 pm

That wide open long down hill hole by the highway always kicked my poor golfing butt

Seemed so wide open and down hill so I always screwed up the drive.

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BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » November 29th, 2024, 8:32 pm

I've always thought that could be an awesome retreat/weekender property if they hadn't half-assed the lodging and conference space.

tetonaggie · Post by **tetonaggie** » November 29th, 2024, 8:45 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote:I've always thought that could be an awesome retreat/weekender property if they hadn't half-assed the lodging and conference space.

I’ve always wondered why USU hasn’t picked it up for a conference/retreat center. At this point you’d think the price has got to be pretty low.

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Donman · Post by **Donman** » November 29th, 2024, 8:53 pm

tetonaggie wrote:
BearLakeMonster wrote:I've always thought that could be an awesome retreat/weekender property if they hadn't half-assed the lodging and conference space.
I’ve always wondered why USU hasn’t picked it up for a conference/retreat center. At this point you’d think the price has got to be pretty low.

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I think it's a drug rehab center now

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cval · Post by **cval** » November 29th, 2024, 8:53 pm

Once the roof collapsed, it would take a lot to make it useful again.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 29th, 2024, 8:54 pm

It was a rehab facility when the roof collapsed from heavy snow a few years ago.

BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » November 29th, 2024, 9:02 pm

It needs to be knocked down and completely rebuilt to 20th Century standards.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm

It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64

BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64

Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » November 30th, 2024, 4:41 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64
Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.

They would need proper acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the highway and I don't know that they have enough right-of- way for that.

Empire of Dirt · Post by **Empire of Dirt** » November 30th, 2024, 4:49 pm

Feels like the golf course needed to hang on for another couple of years. COVID did wonders for golf...

Tee times in Northern Utah are becoming tough to get. I think that course could have turned around Post-COVID.

I've always loved having options for play here (different awesome course every weekend), but this year has me considering a country club.

BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » November 30th, 2024, 4:52 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:41 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64
Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.
They would need proper acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the highway and I don't know that they have enough right-of- way for that.

The developer wanted "right-in, right-out" accel and decel lanes plus a left-turn lane. They could do it with some earth moving.

But to accommodate the hundreds of cars trying to make left turns onto and off of the highway, what they really needed was an overpass. No one was going to drop $40M in public funds for the developer.

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » November 30th, 2024, 8:56 pm

WAAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 8:30 pm
That wide open long down hill hole by the highway always kicked my poor golfing butt

Seemed so wide open and down hill so I always screwed up the drive.

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That down hill par 5 hole made me believe I was a long-drive champion if I got ahold of one there.

bwcrc · Post by **bwcrc** » November 30th, 2024, 9:16 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:52 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:41 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64
Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.
They would need proper acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the highway and I don't know that they have enough right-of- way for that.
The developer wanted "right-in, right-out" accel and decel lanes plus a left-turn lane. They could do it with some earth moving.

But to accommodate the hundreds of cars trying to make left turns onto and off of the highway, what they really needed was an overpass. No one was going to drop $40M in public funds for the developer.

Unfortunately, it is all too common that state transportation departments and local municipalities/counties get greedy in these types of situations and want developers to take on so much that it kills the project. I see it happen a couple of times a year on projects I am involved with in other states. Another common problem is engineers only looking at their own calculations and tables that have little relation to reality or local politicians requiring "improvements" that are only pet projects so they can brag about the improvements they brought to a neighborhood. My current favorite is a bike path through a warehousing development.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » November 30th, 2024, 9:50 pm

bwcrc wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 9:16 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:52 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:41 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64
Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.
They would need proper acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the highway and I don't know that they have enough right-of- way for that.
The developer wanted "right-in, right-out" accel and decel lanes plus a left-turn lane. They could do it with some earth moving.

But to accommodate the hundreds of cars trying to make left turns onto and off of the highway, what they really needed was an overpass. No one was going to drop $40M in public funds for the developer.
Unfortunately, it is all too common that state transportation departments and local municipalities/counties get greedy in these types of situations and want developers to take on so much that it kills the project. I see it happen a couple of times a year on projects I am involved with in other states. Another common problem is engineers only looking at their own calculations and tables that have little relation to reality or local politicians requiring "improvements" that are only pet projects so they can brag about the improvements they brought to a neighborhood. My current favorite is a bike path through a warehousing development.

Oh, yes. These add-on projects are awesome. The City of San Francisco is good at this. They demand of Contractors and consultants a mandatory community engagement and arts contribution on their projects. This drives the cost of construction up for projects that have nothing to do with arts projects and allows the city leaders to boast about their great arts and community benefits programs (paid for by the consultants and contractors as a condition of the privilege of working for the City).

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » November 30th, 2024, 10:13 pm

Can’t believe they actually wanted that many houses up there. I always thought a house across from the state sheds, tucked around the corner would be nice. Did a couple scout winter camps there when I was a leader in Brigham.

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trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » November 30th, 2024, 10:59 pm

WAAggie wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 10:13 pm
Can’t believe they actually wanted that many houses up there. I always thought a house across from the state sheds, tucked around the corner would be nice. Did a couple scout winter camps there when I was a leader in Brigham.

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I went on a couple of winter camps there as well. One was awesome, one was wet.

CacheCow · Post by **CacheCow** » December 1st, 2024, 7:55 am

If I had the money I would love to buy Sherwood and turn it into a nice resort. It would be a good place for the football team to stay the night before home games.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » December 1st, 2024, 7:57 am

Lucifer did exactly that.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 1st, 2024, 8:06 am

CacheCow wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2024, 7:55 am
If I had the money I would love to buy Sherwood and turn it into a nice resort. It would be a good place for the football team to stay the night before home games.

If you do, hire me to be the Danny McCoy to your Ed Deline. I’m even already married so you don’t have to worry about me striking up a romance with one of your relatives.

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » December 1st, 2024, 12:23 pm

I’ll be the golf course caretaker. Your staff could be retired usufan members.

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CacheCow · Post by **CacheCow** » December 1st, 2024, 1:26 pm

WAAggie wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2024, 12:23 pm
I’ll be the golf course caretaker. Your staff could be retired usufan members.

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I doubt there’s enough room to fit a full 18 holes in up there but if so, that would be a goal. I’d also like to turn the golf course into a cross country skiing track in the winter to help bring in a little extra revenue in the winter months and get USU to add a ski team.

usugoalie13 · Post by **usugoalie13** » December 1st, 2024, 2:09 pm

I will take care of the place in winter. Just don't take away the beer or t.v. it would make me something something...

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 1st, 2024, 2:25 pm

usugoalie13 wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2024, 2:09 pm
I will take care of the place in winter. Just don't take away the beer or t.v. it would make me something something...

Every resort needs an alcoholic caretaker. Your resume should be STRONGLY considered.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 9th, 2024, 3:05 pm

bwcrc wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 9:16 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:52 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 4:41 pm

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2024, 3:59 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:08 pm
It was/is going to be sold to a developer. They were planning like 130 or so semi luxury residences with horse property access. They had to get some approval from Wellsville , cause that's where'd they get water from, and there was a fuss with the townspeople. Not sure where it went after.

Upon googling, looks like it's moving along

https://www.hjnews.com/news/government/ ... 4a5ba.html

Further googling, and I'm not a lawyer like the rest of the board, but the developer is bankrupt

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/6 ... 622bb43c64
Wellsville was reluctant to approve the project due to potential impact on their water source up there, but the deal-killer was that UDOT wouldn't allow the project to access the highway without major improvements that the developer didn't want to pay for.
They would need proper acceleration and deceleration lanes onto the highway and I don't know that they have enough right-of- way for that.
The developer wanted "right-in, right-out" accel and decel lanes plus a left-turn lane. They could do it with some earth moving.

But to accommodate the hundreds of cars trying to make left turns onto and off of the highway, what they really needed was an overpass. No one was going to drop $40M in public funds for the developer.
Unfortunately, it is all too common that state transportation departments and local municipalities/counties get greedy in these types of situations and want developers to take on so much that it kills the project. I see it happen a couple of times a year on projects I am involved with in other states. Another common problem is engineers only looking at their own calculations and tables that have little relation to reality or local politicians requiring "improvements" that are only pet projects so they can brag about the improvements they brought to a neighborhood. My current favorite is a bike path through a warehousing development.

You have to mitigate your impacts, who else is going to pick up the tab? YOU? The tax payer? Oh wait, it's Utah LOL you already do (more thank you know).

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 9th, 2024, 3:06 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2024, 2:25 pm

usugoalie13 wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2024, 2:09 pm
I will take care of the place in winter. Just don't take away the beer or t.v. it would make me something something...
Every resort needs an alcoholic caretaker. Your resume should be STRONGLY considered.

Jack Torrance would be my pick for the job.

88USUAggie · Post by **88USUAggie** » December 11th, 2024, 8:41 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 7:56 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2024, 9:30 am
I have never hear that. But my in-laws spent their honeymoon there in the Donny and Marie room... I can't imagine anything more romantic...
Ha! That's funny. My wife and I stayed their once ourselves, very underwhelming. From what I can tell the only thing special about Sherwood Hills Inn was there used to be a bomb restaurant there???? The hotel/motel itself wasn't anything special, that's for sure. I also remember that every Halloween they had a haunted forest that seemed like it would be pretty interesting but I never tried it.

I am pretty certain that the restaurant (when I was in Logan 84-88) was run at the time by the guys who ran The CopperMill in town. I waited tables there...after the other restaurant I was at went under - Longbottoms.

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