Any chance Amy Crosbie will be retained? She seems like such an upstanding individual, athletes spoke publicly in defense of her and praising her. I really don't understand why the head of Women's Athletics would be fired for failure in the Football program (which she did not oversee). Especially when so many of the Women's programs saw unprecedented success under Amy Crosbie's leadership. (Volleyball & Soccer)

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

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October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

I haven't heard a bad word spoken of Amy Crosbie. Everyone who mentions her has high praise.

https://usustatesman.com/opinion-amy-cr ... -powerful/

"I have worked with Amy in the athletic department for the majority of the past five years. I work on the external side, and she was over internal affairs, but that didn’t stop her from taking me under her wing from just about day one. That’s just the kind of person that Amy is. She invests in the people around her, is a selfless leader, and approaches every situation with integrity, grace, and love. She has such a unique ability to guide people through any given situation, and I have been fortunate to benefit from her knowledge, leadership, and compassionate heart for the entirety of my professional career.

Over the past couple of months, I have watched as Amy has been dealt a challenging hand. Her dismissal from Utah State comes with so much heartbreak for me and many others. She is a powerful presence, and her absence leaves a large void. This situation has also given me the opportunity to reflect on and appreciate how much I have learned from her. Amy’s impact is immeasurable, and the lives of everyone fortunate enough to know her are better for it. In seeing how she has carried herself and handled this situation, I feel more and more grateful for her influence on my life each day and am so proud to call her my mentor and friend. I can say with absolute certainty that you will not find a more genuine, trustworthy, or higher-character individual than Amy."

-Sophia Hamilton

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October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

Utah State Volleyball Record:

2023 - W24 L7
2022 - W22 L11
2021 - W22 L9
2020 - W5 L10
2019 - W2 L28
2018 - W5 L24
2017 - W16 L14
2016 - W14 L16
2015 - W6 L26
2014 - W13 L16

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October 15th, 2024, 10:12 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

No relation. Just a fan wanting answers on why the woman responsible for Volleyball & Soccer success was canned.

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October 15th, 2024, 10:12 pm

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October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

These posts are always great. I think my favorite was the person in the basketball forum who was clearly related to Duryea.

OP, who are you trying to convince here and why?

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Any chance Amy Crosbie will be retained? She seems like such an upstanding individual, athletes spoke publicly in defense of her and praising her. I really don't understand why the head of Women's Athletics would be fired for failure in the Football program (which she did not oversee). Especially when so many of the Women's programs saw unprecedented success under Amy Crosbie's leadership. (Volleyball & Soccer)

See the DOJ letter, pages 6 - 10, for discussion of how Crosbie had information about the football situation that the DOJ says she should have reported but did not.

https://www.usu.edu/sexual-respect/file ... otball.pdf

It seems unlikely that Crosbie would be allowed to return while the DOJ is involved.

Reading that letter people are lying. Not certain who but people are lying.

Intermeddler wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 11:51 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 10:12 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

These posts are always great. I think my favorite was the person in the basketball forum who was clearly related to Duryea.

OP, who are you trying to convince here and why?

Ya’ll are funny. I just want answers. Universities should be accountable and transparent in their dealings. I don’t like seeing people’s careers railroaded without proper justification.

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Intermeddler wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 11:51 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 10:12 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

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ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

These posts are always great. I think my favorite was the person in the basketball forum who was clearly related to Duryea.

OP, who are you trying to convince here and why?

Ya’ll are funny. I just want answers. Universities should be accountable and transparent in their dealings. I don’t like seeing people’s careers railroaded without proper justification.

The answers and justification you are looking for are in the DOJ letter in the link provided above. I guess you can argue that that information is incorrect but you would need to take that up with the DOJ I suppose.

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jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Any chance Amy Crosbie will be retained? She seems like such an upstanding individual, athletes spoke publicly in defense of her and praising her. I really don't understand why the head of Women's Athletics would be fired for failure in the Football program (which she did not oversee). Especially when so many of the Women's programs saw unprecedented success under Amy Crosbie's leadership. (Volleyball & Soccer)

See the DOJ letter, pages 6 - 10, for discussion of how Crosbie had information about the football situation that the DOJ says she should have reported but did not.

https://www.usu.edu/sexual-respect/file ... otball.pdf

It seems unlikely that Crosbie would be allowed to return while the DOJ is involved.

Thanks for sharing. This is actually helpful vs the snark from previous commenters.

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 7:43 am

josephconlin wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 6:19 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Any chance Amy Crosbie will be retained? She seems like such an upstanding individual, athletes spoke publicly in defense of her and praising her. I really don't understand why the head of Women's Athletics would be fired for failure in the Football program (which she did not oversee). Especially when so many of the Women's programs saw unprecedented success under Amy Crosbie's leadership. (Volleyball & Soccer)

See the DOJ letter, pages 6 - 10, for discussion of how Crosbie had information about the football situation that the DOJ says she should have reported but did not.

https://www.usu.edu/sexual-respect/file ... otball.pdf

It seems unlikely that Crosbie would be allowed to return while the DOJ is involved.

Thanks for sharing. This is actually helpful vs the snark from previous commenters.

I personally decided the fate of all those who were let go. You've come to the right place for help and due process

This board needs a block feature.

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

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trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 10:12 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:58 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:19 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 8:23 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 7:36 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 15th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Your sixth post here; welcome. Uhmmm where is the possibility of this being discussed? She was a public employee at a public university in the state of Utah; she can be let go at any time for any reason. She was let go a while ago now. Why are you bringing it up?

Thanks. Just discovered this forum. I hadn't seen it discussed, which is why I brought it up. A lot of poeple talking about Bovee, but it seems like Crosbie is the one who got shafted. Sucks for anyone to be terminated without reasonable cause given. I know her greivance hearing is upcoming. Since Bovee's was upheld, wondering if there was any possibility her dismissal could be overturned. Seems to be a lot of people still upset about everything that went down. Perhaps retaining Crosbie could go a long way to heal wounds. A figurative Olive Branch from the AD to the community. Could be potential goodwill and positive PR for Diana Sabau and Administration?

I can't imagine anyone with an ounce of dignity and self respect would return to a job they were fired from.

Perhaps not. Still seems like she was done dirty. Fired on the heels of Volleyball winning 3 consecutive conference championships and Soccer Winning the Conference Championship is hard to comprehend.

What was Amy's responsibilities? Why is she credited with championships?

Certainly she can’t take full credit, but she was hired in 2019, head coach Rob Neilson was hired 2020, then USU wins conference championships in 2021, 2022, 2023.

Manny Martins was hired in 2021, wins conference championship in 2023, currently a Top 10 program.

These are not coincidences. Amy Crosbie oversaw both of these programs for the last 5 years.

https://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/u ... 5b66f.html

“Crosbie oversaw compliance, academics and strength & conditioning, as well as Title IX oversight, and sport supervision for gymnastics, women’s soccer, men’s and women’s track & field/cross country, and volleyball. In her capacity as a Senior Woman Administrator she was also responsible for promoting women's representation in college sports leadership and management.”

It can be hard when a friend/family member is fired.

I wouldn't suggest a fan forum as a place to find comfort

These posts are always great. I think my favorite was the person in the basketball forum who was clearly related to Duryea.

OP, who are you trying to convince here and why?

That guy was awesome! He was only on the board to promote Duryea and the two times he was most active were right before Duryea was hired pushing for him to get the job and right before Duryea was fired posting that Duryea shouldn't lose his job. He could not have been more obviously a Duryea family member or a very close personal friend.

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October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

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October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

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October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

I will add it wasn't a good look when someone put out a fake Hartwell letter.

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

For the sake of clarity (edit: concerning the athletic department firings), the DOJ letter mostly discloses more information from the independent investigation report that we still have not seen in its entirety (and probably never will). I wish we could see the full report.

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:30 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

I will add it wasn't a good look when someone put out a fake Hartwell letter.

I’m new here, what’s this Hartwell letter business?

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 10:45 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:30 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

I will add it wasn't a good look when someone put out a fake Hartwell letter.

I’m new here, what’s this Hartwell letter business?

It appears that the post that contained the actual fake emails has been removed, but here is a post that gives a decent summation of what's being referred to.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=73151&start=35#p989377

Thanks!

She's not coming back; she won't win her appeal, It's time to move on. When the DOJ shows up at your business, public or private (especially public) and points to a few employees and then says "we have a problem." You don't sit there and try to second guess them, you take action immediately and hope you never hear from the DOJ again.

josephconlin wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 10:41 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:18 am

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 9:03 am

I'm not certain what the purpose of this post was.

Amy wasn't let go because the teams weren't doing well. From all reports people liked her.

The issue was the DOJ and whether protocol was fired (at least that's what we assume).

Mostly seeking clarification. I understand the justification for firing Anderson, Bovee situation is he said, she said. Crosbie seemed to be caught in the cross hairs of it all.

If the info in the DOJ letter is correct then that explains everything.

What I am having a hard time wrapping my head around is the different stories. The story Jerry tells on TV is completely different than what is in the DOJ letter.

It makes a huge difference on how people are held accountable.

The DOJ letter completely obliterates any argument Jerry and his cronies have and so they resort to saying the DOJ letter is full of lies.

Like the folks who think this claim to be intelligent while also saying the DOJ is going to lie about all this because we have a woke white woman dei hiring running the show.

It’s quite remarkable the lengths they will go to protect their fearless leader.

For the sake of clarity (edit: concerning the athletic department firings), the DOJ letter mostly discloses more information from the independent investigation report that we still have not seen in its entirety (and probably never will). I wish we could see the full report.

Agreed! I want to see the full report. Failure to release the findings of the independent investigation make it look like the University is hiding something. We need full transparency.

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 5:51 pm

She's not coming back; she won't win her appeal, It's time to move on. When the DOJ shows up at your business, public or private (especially public) and points to a few employees and then says "we have a problem." You don't sit there and try to second guess them, you take action immediately and hope you never hear from the DOJ again.

Maybe not, but we don't know any of what you stated as fact, it's speculation on your part. We don't know for certain if the dismissals were directed by the DOJ or if they were taken by individuals within the University. We don't even know for certain why Amy Crosbie was terminated. I hope we get some answers from the University at some point.

Donman wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 6:42 am

Reading that letter people are lying. Not certain who but people are lying.

Right? There is definitely someone is this situation who is not being forthcoming. Hope it eventually comes to light.

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 7:44 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 5:51 pm

She's not coming back; she won't win her appeal, It's time to move on. When the DOJ shows up at your business, public or private (especially public) and points to a few employees and then says "we have a problem." You don't sit there and try to second guess them, you take action immediately and hope you never hear from the DOJ again.

Maybe not, but we don't know any of what you stated as fact, it's speculation on your part. We don't know for certain if the dismissals were directed by the DOJ or if they were taken by individuals within the University. We don't even know for certain why Amy Crosbie was terminated. I hope we get some answers from the University at some point.

To my knowledge, USU has never publicly explained why Crosbie was terminated. But if you read the DOJ letter, it says that she violated the mandatory reporting rules under Title IX. Honestly, I didn't know about any of this until I read the letter just now. Of all the people who were fired, she is the one that I actually feel bad for. For starters, she was the only one who handled her firing gracefully rather than taking zero accountability for their actions while publicly attacking the university. Plus, based on the letter, it sounds like she was fired basically because she didn't rat out her boss (Bovee) for not following the rules. I understand that when the DOJ is breathing down your throat and your top administrators don't follow the reporting policy, you probably have to clean house. But I still feel bad seeing someone lose their career because they were reluctant to report that their boss wasn't following the rules.

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

October 17th, 2024, 7:43 pm

jmatheson wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 7:44 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

October 16th, 2024, 5:51 pm

She's not coming back; she won't win her appeal, It's time to move on. When the DOJ shows up at your business, public or private (especially public) and points to a few employees and then says "we have a problem." You don't sit there and try to second guess them, you take action immediately and hope you never hear from the DOJ again.

Maybe not, but we don't know any of what you stated as fact, it's speculation on your part. We don't know for certain if the dismissals were directed by the DOJ or if they were taken by individuals within the University. We don't even know for certain why Amy Crosbie was terminated. I hope we get some answers from the University at some point.

To my knowledge, USU has never publicly explained why Crosbie was terminated. But if you read the DOJ letter, it says that she violated the mandatory reporting rules under Title IX. Honestly, I didn't know about any of this until I read the letter just now. Of all the people who were fired, she is the one that I actually feel bad for. For starters, she was the only one who handled her firing gracefully rather than taking zero accountability for their actions while publicly attacking the university. Plus, based on the letter, it sounds like she was fired basically because she didn't rat out her boss (Bovee) for not following the rules. I understand that when the DOJ is breathing down your throat and your top administrators don't follow the reporting policy, you probably have to clean house. But I still feel bad seeing someone lose their career because they were reluctant to report that their boss wasn't following the rules.

She has shown nothing but class, I really wish the best for her. Her response displayed upstanding character.

https://www.hjnews.com/sports/usu/opini ... 7f711.html

"Life has a way of challenging you. Sports taught me that. Utah State taught me that. The trick is to get up when you’ve been knocked down — no matter what.

The last week has brought confusion, heartache and tears. That’s the downside of this heart-wrenching situation. There has also been a positive side. Since the news broke, I have received overwhelming love and support from people I’ve built relationships with over the past 27 years. Their calls, texts and visits have helped me make up my mind.

As I decide what to do next, I will not lament what’s happened. Instead, I choose gratitude.

Your kind words and messages have reminded me that each of us has choices to make in this life when faced with adversity. While I decide what comes next, I choose to keep my chin up, my heart open and my spirit of gratitude intact. Thank you, so many of you, for helping to make that possible."