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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by LarryTheAggie » January 17th, 2023, 6:07 am

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So apparently I have heard from others that if they have made any comments on WBB Instagram that could be taken as a negative comment they block their comments from showing up. Seems like coach might be trying to control the narrative
Wow.

Saying "I hope you have a better shooting night" is not even that negative.

Can we fire her yet?
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by LarryTheAggie » January 17th, 2023, 6:10 am

But hey they beat Fresno State in Fresno. So that's cool. Looks like hoping that they have a better shooting night paid off.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 17th, 2023, 6:48 am

LarryTheAggie wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 6:07 am
Aggie_Watch wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 12:44 am
So apparently I have heard from others that if they have made any comments on WBB Instagram that could be taken as a negative comment they block their comments from showing up. Seems like coach might be trying to control the narrative
Wow.

Saying "I hope you have a better shooting night" is not even that negative.

Can we fire her yet?
Right? I get the sense this coach is a little defensive. Why do we never hear from her after losses? I know plenty of programs require their coaches to do a press conference after home games, win or lose. But she isn’t held to that standard.


Honestly, I don’t even care they won at Fresno. I don’t think they’ll win much more, and I think this coach is the issue. I hope she’s shown the door after this year, because I think that’s what’s necessary for this program to have the potential to grow.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Aggie_Watch » January 17th, 2023, 7:15 am

LarryTheAggie wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 6:10 am
But hey they beat Fresno State in Fresno. So that's cool. Looks like hoping that they have a better shooting night paid off.
But they deleted the comment 😂😂😂
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Aggie_Watch » January 17th, 2023, 7:17 am

aggie276 wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 6:48 am
LarryTheAggie wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 6:07 am
Aggie_Watch wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 12:44 am
So apparently I have heard from others that if they have made any comments on WBB Instagram that could be taken as a negative comment they block their comments from showing up. Seems like coach might be trying to control the narrative

Saying "I hope you have a better shooting night" is not even that negative.

Can we fire her yet?
Right? I get the sense this coach is a little defensive. Why do we never hear from her after losses? I know plenty of programs require their coaches to do a press conference after home games, win or lose. But she isn’t held to that standard.


Honestly, I don’t even care they won at Fresno. I don’t think they’ll win much more, and I think this coach is the issue. I hope she’s shown the door after this year, because I think that’s what’s necessary for this program to have the potential to grow.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 19th, 2023, 7:41 am

stang wrote:
January 13th, 2023, 1:04 pm
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All I know is, when I posted a unbiased article talking about the program and sharing her contract details, the tweet that was sent out got some responses from former coaches and reactions from former players that weren't good.

It's a shame because I was excited about the charisma and excitement that Ard brought to the program. It has not translated into wins or sustainability for coaches and players at all.
Do you know of an explanation for the roster and staff turnover? Because surely a turnover of 10 players leaving and all 3 assistants leaving isn’t typical.
I understand that roster turnover is becoming more and more common in college sports, but that's often because players are trying to transfer up. Here's where the 10 players who left last year's squad ended up -

Kamalu Kamakawiwole - Transferred to Hawaii-Hilo
Meagan Mendazona - Transferred to UT-Tyler
E'Lease Stafford - Transferred to UMKC
Amit Lustgarten - Transferred to Los Angeles Trade-Tech
Faith Brantley - Quit midseason last year and appears to be done with basketball
Manna Mensah - Transferred to UMKC
Kaylin Randhawa - Transferred to Sacramento State
Shyla Latone - Transferred to Cal State Fullerton
Halle Nelson - Transferred to Utah Valley
Adryana Quezada - Transferred to San Diego State

Not even to mention the coaches who left and the DOBO who quit just days before the season started last year.

That list makes it pretty clear that players were just trying to get out. The culture of the program has gone from poor to nonexistent.
Was just thinking about the transfer issues, I noticed in October they lost their mostly highly touted transfer- a girl who came from Texas Tech or Texas A & M I believe. Can anyone speak to why she would’ve left just a month before the season? what the heck is going on on the inside?



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 21st, 2023, 5:18 pm

The USU women just lost to 2-15 (0-6) San Jose State by 18 points. San Jose state was 301 in the NET and one of the worst shooting teams in the entire country, and they shot 54% against USU.

So how soon can we get a new coach???



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggies22 » January 23rd, 2023, 6:24 am

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January 21st, 2023, 5:18 pm
The USU women just lost to 2-15 (0-6) San Jose State by 18 points. San Jose state was 301 in the NET and one of the worst shooting teams in the entire country, and they shot 54% against USU.

So how soon can we get a new coach???
We were their Super Bowl.
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by ViAggie » January 23rd, 2023, 11:17 am

At this point I bet we'd lose to Caltech's Women's BB team


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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tipitup » January 23rd, 2023, 12:24 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 23rd, 2023, 6:24 am
aggie276 wrote:
January 21st, 2023, 5:18 pm
The USU women just lost to 2-15 (0-6) San Jose State by 18 points. San Jose state was 301 in the NET and one of the worst shooting teams in the entire country, and they shot 54% against USU.

So how soon can we get a new coach???
We were their Super Bowl.
we may have been, but they won the super bowl then!!!



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 23rd, 2023, 1:15 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 23rd, 2023, 6:24 am
aggie276 wrote:
January 21st, 2023, 5:18 pm
The USU women just lost to 2-15 (0-6) San Jose State by 18 points. San Jose state was 301 in the NET and one of the worst shooting teams in the entire country, and they shot 54% against USU.

So how soon can we get a new coach???
We were their Super Bowl.
I think San Jose is better coached than us, I looked up their coach and though she’s never been a head coach she was recently an assistant at Texas and Arizona, two very successful programs.

Nonetheless, if Ard wants to prove she’s made any progress she cannot lose games like this one against teams that are 2-15 or something. she came in as an unproven head coach. And is still an unproven head coach.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Ahbye » January 24th, 2023, 11:30 pm

I'd say she's proven. It goes both ways.
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 25th, 2023, 10:51 am

Ahbye wrote:
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I'd say she's proven. It goes both ways.
Agree to disagree. Nothing about a mass exodus of players and staff and losing tons of games and net rankings in the 300s screams proven to me. But some people will defend her to the end…

…fwiw, I talked with an athlete who transferred. And this person did not have a positive experience. And it was a coaching issue.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by LarryTheAggie » January 25th, 2023, 11:03 am

aggie276 wrote:
January 25th, 2023, 10:51 am
Ahbye wrote:
January 24th, 2023, 11:30 pm
I'd say she's proven. It goes both ways.
Agree to disagree. Nothing about a mass exodus of players and staff and losing tons of games and net rankings in the 300s screams proven to me. But some people will defend her to the end…

…fwiw, I talked with an athlete who transferred. And this person did not have a positive experience. And it was a coaching issue.
I think that was his point. Pretty sure he was not defending her. I read it as "she has proven that she cannot do the job."
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 25th, 2023, 12:52 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote:
January 25th, 2023, 11:03 am
aggie276 wrote:
January 25th, 2023, 10:51 am
Ahbye wrote:
January 24th, 2023, 11:30 pm
I'd say she's proven. It goes both ways.
Agree to disagree. Nothing about a mass exodus of players and staff and losing tons of games and net rankings in the 300s screams proven to me. But some people will defend her to the end…

…fwiw, I talked with an athlete who transferred. And this person did not have a positive experience. And it was a coaching issue.
I think that was his point. Pretty sure he was not defending her. I read it as "she has proven that she cannot do the job."
Ah gotcha. I must have read it too quickly. Hey maybe if Hartwell gets a new job, he will hire her there? Heard he’s in the running for a job in Louisiana somewhere



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tjensen_25 » January 25th, 2023, 1:52 pm

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If they are not going to try and field a competitive team, can they just target wealthy potential donors to the athletics program with daughters that play high school basketball, regardless of ability, and say their daughters have a roster spot if they want to play college basketball.
I've watched a few of the games on the MW Network. This might not be the worst idea. I think any girl with any athletic ability could fit in with the current roster. They don't move, they don't have court awareness. It's like watching a girls Jr. Jazz team.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by coolag » January 25th, 2023, 5:52 pm

This is why I will never have any sympathy for coaches when they lose games. They have it made. Make a bunch of money. Make more when they are successful. That's ok. Make a bunch to be fired when they stink. Poor sad multi-millionaires. At least when fans show their "true colors" they aren't getting paid to do it like coaches.


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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tipitup » January 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm

i'm going to brave it and go to the game tonight. are tickets online or just pick them up there, or is it free??



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by dirtnsnow » January 26th, 2023, 2:51 pm

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January 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm
i'm going to brave it and go to the game tonight. are tickets online or just pick them up there, or is it free??
Well, you definitely can't sneak in. They'll definitely notice a spectator.
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Hoot » January 26th, 2023, 3:17 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 2:51 pm
tipitup wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm
i'm going to brave it and go to the game tonight. are tickets online or just pick them up there, or is it free??
Well, you definitely can't sneak in. They'll definitely notice a spectator.

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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Aggie_Watch » January 26th, 2023, 3:20 pm

:lol:
dirtnsnow wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 2:51 pm
tipitup wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm
i'm going to brave it and go to the game tonight. are tickets online or just pick them up there, or is it free??
How was the game?
Well, you definitely can't sneak in. They'll definitely notice a spectator.
😂😂😂😂
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by sancho839 » January 26th, 2023, 7:52 pm

They had an 18 point lead over Wyoming and ended up losing by 12 (free throw game down the stretch inflated it, but still)



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tipitup » January 26th, 2023, 8:33 pm

Fun game for most of it. The ladies played really well in the first half and then Wyoming went into a zone and we had a hard time scoring from that point on. We lost the rebound battle by a long shot so they got a ton of offensive rebounds. And at the end they hit free throws!! I counted about 200 people including the band.
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by LarryTheAggie » January 26th, 2023, 8:35 pm

8 points in the forth... ouch...

The USU athletic page used to retreat the results of the games, even losses. They have stopped doing that. That is pretty sad.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tipitup » January 26th, 2023, 8:41 pm

Of those 8 points I think at least 3 were free throws. So only a couple of baskets in the fourth.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Aggie_Watch » January 26th, 2023, 8:52 pm

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Of those 8 points I think at least 3 were free throws. So only a couple of baskets in the fourth.
I feel like with the right coach they would have won



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by tipitup » January 26th, 2023, 9:02 pm

I didn’t feel like Wyoming was that much better. They were bigger but not better. We were so set on running an offense that we forgot to play ball. We would start a drive and forget how to finish.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by QuackAttackAggie » January 26th, 2023, 9:09 pm

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tipitup wrote:
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Of those 8 points I think at least 3 were free throws. So only a couple of baskets in the fourth.
I feel like with the right coach they would have won
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by Aggie_Watch » January 26th, 2023, 9:19 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 9:09 pm
Aggie_Watch wrote:
tipitup wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Of those 8 points I think at least 3 were free throws. So only a couple of baskets in the fourth.
I feel like with the right coach they would have won
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 26th, 2023, 10:04 pm

tipitup wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 9:02 pm
I didn’t feel like Wyoming was that much better. They were bigger but not better. We were so set on running an offense that we forgot to play ball. We would start a drive and forget how to finish.
Wyoming has been inconsistent but they were more physical, more fit, and had a higher basketball iq with better coaching to boot. How did we only scored 16 points in the ENTIRE second half?

We were out toughed, out hustled, out coached. Wyoming (and a lot of teams in this conference) have a toughness that we simply do not have.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by aggie276 » January 26th, 2023, 10:06 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 9:09 pm
Aggie_Watch wrote:
tipitup wrote:
January 26th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Of those 8 points I think at least 3 were free throws. So only a couple of baskets in the fourth.
I feel like with the right coach they would have won
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Is the criticism unwarranted though? A 4-16 team, blew an 18 point lead (another blown lead) this is the coaches 3rd year (not her first); she couldn’t keep anyone around - players OR staff after last year. It really does feel like that’s where the problems start.



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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by ratofallaggies » January 27th, 2023, 6:57 am

Mods- do you actively check to see if the same person is posting under two separate accounts? Just curious
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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by QuackAttackAggie » January 27th, 2023, 10:23 am

ratofallaggies wrote:Mods- do you actively check to see if the same person is posting under two separate accounts? Just curious
I hope it's actually the coach posting and trying to get fired for a big buyout.


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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by ViAggie » January 27th, 2023, 12:03 pm

Looking at our schedule so far... brutal. The good news (not really) is that we went .500 with in state rivals, and only losing to the why by 10 points. The bad, we got KILLED by... Utah Tech???? OH man. And now we've got 1 conference win so far. wow, yes very underwhelming.


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Re: USU Women's Bball

Post by stang » January 27th, 2023, 12:17 pm

USU got up by 18 points last night midway through the second quarter, 33-15, then proceeded to score just 19 points and shoot 6-of-28 over the next 24 minutes.

Simply pathetic. It's not just coaching, it's coaching, talent, leadership, strategy, and overall lack of give a sh*t. Burn it to the ground and start over.



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