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Post by AGinNEIowa » October 29th, 2022, 7:37 am

Is there any pitcher in the history of MLB that you want to start a WS game for your team than Justin Verlander?
What is he now, 0-6 as a starter with 6+ ERA?


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Re: Anybody you want LESS to start WS?

Post by Yossarian » October 29th, 2022, 4:55 pm

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Is there any pitcher in the history of MLB that you want to start a WS game for your team than Justin Verlander?
What is he now, 0-6 as a starter with 6+ ERA?
He even had a 5 run lead in this one and couldn't hold it.

That is a tough batting order to face in Philly, though. Schwarber, Hoskins, Realmuto, Harper, and Castellanos is a formidable first 5.


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Post by pilotaggie » October 29th, 2022, 5:09 pm

He barely got out of the inning when he gave up 3 runs. Never should have come back out the next inning. I was at dinner, it was on in the background, really surprised when I looked up again and he had just given up 2 more runs.

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Post by Imakeitrain » October 29th, 2022, 6:56 pm

Imagine bombing worse than the dude who sang the anthem
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Post by 918AGG » November 1st, 2022, 9:10 am

This hurts... (but is true).

Stros in 5. :)


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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 1st, 2022, 12:03 pm

918AGG wrote:
November 1st, 2022, 9:10 am
This hurts... (but is true).

Stros in 5. :)
sorry 918 - This year, I haven't followed much baseball outside of occasional standings checks for A's and Giants records.
I was surprised that he was still losing games in the WS like he did to the Giants a decade ago


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Post by OKAggie » November 1st, 2022, 2:06 pm

Yeah, weird. He’s a shoo-in for Cy Young this year - at 39, after Tommy John surgery. I’ll go against the CW: I’d take him in Game 7 just because he’s way overdue.

He’d have won Game 1 if he hasn’t muffed that liner in the fourth - instead of an inning ending DP (runner on first was going), he just got the one out, and the Phils scored three. A play he makes 95% of the time.


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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 1st, 2022, 4:14 pm

He just underperforms his regular season so badly, I'd almost call him Kershaw - but he finally broke through.
Maybe Verlander will do so this series... :noidea:


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Post by Yossarian » November 1st, 2022, 7:52 pm

Phillies are just teeing off on McCullers. 5 home runs so far tonight to chase him. Still just the bottom of the fifth. This is a tough lineup in Philly.


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Post by OKAggie » November 2nd, 2022, 12:16 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2022, 7:52 pm
Phillies are just teeing off on McCullers. 5 home runs so far tonight to chase him. Still just the bottom of the fifth. This is a tough lineup in Philly.
Dusty trusts his veterans to a fault. Stuck with Mancini far too long. Should have pulled both Verlander and McCullers two innings earlier -- hell, he has three starters (Garcia, Urquidy, Brown) in the bullpen for such a situation, and five quality relief arms behind them. Astros are clearly being outmanaged.


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Post by Yossarian » November 2nd, 2022, 6:23 pm

OKAggie wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 12:16 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2022, 7:52 pm
Phillies are just teeing off on McCullers. 5 home runs so far tonight to chase him. Still just the bottom of the fifth. This is a tough lineup in Philly.
Dusty trusts his veterans to a fault. Stuck with Mancini far too long. Should have pulled both Verlander and McCullers two innings earlier -- hell, he has three starters (Garcia, Urquidy, Brown) in the bullpen for such a situation, and five quality relief arms behind them. Astros are clearly being outmanaged.
As an O's fan, I would like to see Trey Mancini do well. He was a very popular figure in Baltimore with a compelling story fighting colon cancer and sitting out an entire year. His relationship with Mo Gaba was also great feel good story off the field:



He's had a rough post session, though.


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Post by Yossarian » November 2nd, 2022, 9:30 pm

Isn't baseball a funny game? The Phillies hit 5 homeruns last night and get no-hit tonight.
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Post by OKAggie » November 2nd, 2022, 10:06 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 6:23 pm
OKAggie wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 12:16 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2022, 7:52 pm
Phillies are just teeing off on McCullers. 5 home runs so far tonight to chase him. Still just the bottom of the fifth. This is a tough lineup in Philly.
Dusty trusts his veterans to a fault. Stuck with Mancini far too long. Should have pulled both Verlander and McCullers two innings earlier -- hell, he has three starters (Garcia, Urquidy, Brown) in the bullpen for such a situation, and five quality relief arms behind them. Astros are clearly being outmanaged.
As an O's fan, I would like to see Trey Mancini do well. He was a very popular figure in Baltimore with a compelling story fighting colon cancer and sitting out an entire year. His relationship with Mo Gaba was also great feel good story off the field:



He's had a rough post session, though.
Oh, us too! He has such a great story, and he’s been a stand up Astro. But he is completely out of rhythm right now. I’m hoping he has a walk-off PH homer in the 13th inning of Game 6!!


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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 3rd, 2022, 2:18 am

Yossarian wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 9:30 pm
Isn't baseball a funny game? The Phillies hit 5 homeruns last night and get no-hit tonight.
typically the sluggers are also strikers.


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Post by tipitup » November 3rd, 2022, 10:20 am

AGinNEIowa wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 2:18 am
Yossarian wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 9:30 pm
Isn't baseball a funny game? The Phillies hit 5 homeruns last night and get no-hit tonight.
typically the sluggers are also strikers.
go big or go home. sounds like one night they went big, and the next they went home!



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Post by Yossarian » November 3rd, 2022, 11:13 am

tipitup wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 10:20 am
AGinNEIowa wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 2:18 am
Yossarian wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 9:30 pm
Isn't baseball a funny game? The Phillies hit 5 homeruns last night and get no-hit tonight.
typically the sluggers are also strikers.
go big or go home. sounds like one night they went big, and the next they went home!
Astros pitching was tough last night. The starter, Javier, was throwing high fastballs that were unhittable.

These videos they have now where they superimpose two pitches on top of each other to show you in slow motion the release point of the pitch (which is usually the same point) and the movement of the balls as they travels to the catcher are awesome. It really shows you how impossible it is to hit a baseball.


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Post by 918AGG » November 3rd, 2022, 1:31 pm

Tonight is going to be an epic game! Can Verlander pitch a gem, redeem himself, and keep the Phillies bats at bay, or will the Phillies be able to do the previously unthinkable and beat Cy Young shoo-in Verlander TWICE in the same series?

As an Astros fan, I love the idea of Game 5 - Verlander, Game 6 - Framber, and Game 7 - Javier.

If... if... if... Verlander can keep the Phillies bats at bay for the first 3-4 innings, will this be the beginning of the end of Philly's hot streak? Or will the outcome of this game and this series (whatever it may be) be totally unpredictable?

After four games, the series is tied at 2-2, 15 runs to 15 runs. What a great series!!
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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 3rd, 2022, 6:03 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 9:30 pm
Isn't baseball a funny game? The Phillies hit 5 homeruns last night and get no-hit tonight.
Also - saw this tweet today about a "no-hitter"
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Post by Yossarian » November 3rd, 2022, 6:19 pm

It took Verlander two pitches to give up that 1-0 lead.

This on the heels of a no-hitter. Verlander is facing abbey Phillies.
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Post by Yossarian » November 3rd, 2022, 7:38 pm

It's tough to have the TV cameras keep showing Kate Uptain in the stands at these games.


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Post by treesap32 » November 3rd, 2022, 9:36 pm

Yossarian wrote:
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It's tough to have the TV cameras keep showing Kate Uptain in the stands at these games.
Yeah, poor, poor Verlander. I really feel sorry for him.

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Post by Yossarian » November 3rd, 2022, 9:51 pm

treesap32 wrote:
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It's tough to have the TV cameras keep showing Kate Uptain in the stands at these games.
Yeah, poor, poor Verlander. I really feel sorry for him.

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Post by NVAggie » November 4th, 2022, 8:10 am

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Post by 918AGG » November 4th, 2022, 1:14 pm

So proud of Verlander. One win away. Gotta remain focused. Philly can mash.


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Post by Yossarian » November 5th, 2022, 9:22 pm

Great win for the Astros. Alvarez with a huge 450 foot blast. That pitching staff in Houston -- wow!!

Have to feel happy for Dusty Baker. A class guy if there ever was one.
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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 5th, 2022, 9:33 pm

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Great win for the Astros. Alvarez with a huge 450 foot blast. That pitching staff in Houston -- wow!!

Have to feel happy for Dusty Baker. A class guy if there ever was one.
That would be the silver lining for a Houston WS title this year.
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Post by 918AGG » November 7th, 2022, 1:37 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote:
November 5th, 2022, 9:33 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 5th, 2022, 9:22 pm
Great win for the Astros. Alvarez with a huge 450 foot blast. That pitching staff in Houston -- wow!!

Have to feel happy for Dusty Baker. A class guy if there ever was one.
That would be the silver lining for a Houston WS title this year.
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Post by AGinNEIowa » November 7th, 2022, 5:12 pm

918AGG wrote:
November 7th, 2022, 1:37 pm
AGinNEIowa wrote:
November 5th, 2022, 9:33 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 5th, 2022, 9:22 pm
Great win for the Astros. Alvarez with a huge 450 foot blast. That pitching staff in Houston -- wow!!

Have to feel happy for Dusty Baker. A class guy if there ever was one.
That would be the silver lining for a Houston WS title this year.
AND THAT 918AGG, OKAGGIE, AND YOUNGBLOODAGGIE ARE L-I-V-I-N :thumbsup:
maybe you'll get 24 and 26 too, I hope not :joking:


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Post by OKAggie » November 8th, 2022, 8:45 am

Yossarian wrote:
November 5th, 2022, 9:22 pm
Great win for the Astros. Alvarez with a huge 450 foot blast. That pitching staff in Houston -- wow!!

Have to feel happy for Dusty Baker. A class guy if there ever was one.
Our man Mancini never quite came around offensively, but was stellar at 1B when Yuli went down, and had the play of the Series (for one inning ;) ) that kept the Phils at 1 instead of 2 (or probably 3), allowing Yordan's moonshot to be enough to win it. Don't know if we'll see him back in the H, but loved having him here, and it couldn't be more obvious why you guys love him.


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