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Post by Aggie19 » November 15th, 2020, 2:13 pm

https://footballscoop.com/news/hugh-fre ... t-liberty/

So Liberty just gave their coach a big fat raise. No way I'd want to be a private religious institution to have those funds, but that's a quick way to get great coaches.


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Re: Liberty

Post by USU78 » November 15th, 2020, 2:34 pm

$3M a year and a multiple year extension.

I'd take it.

Reached out to my BIL, who's a fan. His response? "He's totally worth it."
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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie19 » November 15th, 2020, 2:50 pm

USU78 wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 2:34 pm
$3M a year and a multiple year extension.

I'd take it.

Reached out to my BIL, who's a fan. His response? "He's totally worth it."
Having glimpsed where they are now and having what we have going on this year, definitely worth it.


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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » November 15th, 2020, 8:01 pm

Liberty has changed a great deal over the last decade. I've been to some Liberty basketball games in Lynchburg. Their last University President was pure garbage as a Person, but he did change the landscape of the school and their athletic department making sports much more of a priority than they were before. Their basketball team is elite and won in March in 2019 and their football team is elite knocking off ACC schools.



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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggieiester » November 15th, 2020, 8:15 pm

You all really want trash like this coaching at USU?

In January 2016, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous recruiting violations. An investigation turned up evidence that Ole Miss employees and boosters arranged numerous "impermissible benefits" for players, such as car loans and cash. At least one recruit was suspected of getting help on his college entrance exam.[21]

The investigation reopened soon after star offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil admitted taking money from one of Freeze's assistants.[22] In February 2017—three months after suffering its first losing season since the year Freeze arrived—Ole Miss withdrew from bowl consideration for the upcoming season. The move came on the same day that the NCAA sent an updated notice of allegations charging the Rebels with eight additional violations. Most seriously, it accused Freeze of not monitoring his assistants, and also accused Ole Miss of not properly controlling the program.[21]

On July 13, 2017, Freeze's predecessor, Houston Nutt, sued Ole Miss for defamation, contending that Freeze and school officials falsely blamed him for the violations. As part of discovery for the lawsuit, Nutt's attorneys filed a Freedom of Information Act request for calls Freeze made on his university-issued cell phone during January 2016. Nutt's attorneys contended that Freeze and others at Ole Miss leaked information to the press as part of an effort to smear their client.[23]

While reviewing those records, Nutt's attorneys discovered a call to a number associated with a female escort service, and alerted Ole Miss officials about it. Freeze claimed it was a misdialed number.[24] School officials investigated, and discovered what they later described as "a concerning pattern" of similar calls dating back to shortly after he arrived in Oxford.[25] On July 20, chancellor Jeff Vitter and athletic director Ross Bjork gave Freeze an ultimatum: resign or be fired for violating the morals clause of his contract. Freeze opted to resign; offensive coordinator Matt Luke was named interim coach.[5]

In February 2019, the NCAA punished the Ole Miss football team for the recruiting and academic violations committed under both Nutt and Freeze. The punishments included a two-year postseason ban, three years of probation, and a four-year ban on some scholarships. As well, the NCAA forced Ole Miss to vacate 33 wins from 2010 to 2016. As a result, 27 of Freeze's wins were stripped from the books; only the 2015 season was unaffected. His record at Ole Miss is now officially 12–15; it was 39–25 on the field.[4]
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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie19 » November 15th, 2020, 8:29 pm

Aggieiester wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 8:15 pm
You all really want trash like this coaching at USU?

In January 2016, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous recruiting violations. An investigation turned up evidence that Ole Miss employees and boosters arranged numerous "impermissible benefits" for players, such as car loans and cash. At least one recruit was suspected of getting help on his college entrance exam.[21]

The investigation reopened soon after star offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil admitted taking money from one of Freeze's assistants.[22] In February 2017—three months after suffering its first losing season since the year Freeze arrived—Ole Miss withdrew from bowl consideration for the upcoming season. The move came on the same day that the NCAA sent an updated notice of allegations charging the Rebels with eight additional violations. Most seriously, it accused Freeze of not monitoring his assistants, and also accused Ole Miss of not properly controlling the program.[21]

On July 13, 2017, Freeze's predecessor, Houston Nutt, sued Ole Miss for defamation, contending that Freeze and school officials falsely blamed him for the violations. As part of discovery for the lawsuit, Nutt's attorneys filed a Freedom of Information Act request for calls Freeze made on his university-issued cell phone during January 2016. Nutt's attorneys contended that Freeze and others at Ole Miss leaked information to the press as part of an effort to smear their client.[23]

While reviewing those records, Nutt's attorneys discovered a call to a number associated with a female escort service, and alerted Ole Miss officials about it. Freeze claimed it was a misdialed number.[24] School officials investigated, and discovered what they later described as "a concerning pattern" of similar calls dating back to shortly after he arrived in Oxford.[25] On July 20, chancellor Jeff Vitter and athletic director Ross Bjork gave Freeze an ultimatum: resign or be fired for violating the morals clause of his contract. Freeze opted to resign; offensive coordinator Matt Luke was named interim coach.[5]

In February 2019, the NCAA punished the Ole Miss football team for the recruiting and academic violations committed under both Nutt and Freeze. The punishments included a two-year postseason ban, three years of probation, and a four-year ban on some scholarships. As well, the NCAA forced Ole Miss to vacate 33 wins from 2010 to 2016. As a result, 27 of Freeze's wins were stripped from the books; only the 2015 season was unaffected. His record at Ole Miss is now officially 12–15; it was 39–25 on the field.[4]
No, I wasn't speaking of wanting Freeze, I was speaking about the ability to pay those type of dollars to a coach.


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Re: Liberty

Post by ViAggie » November 16th, 2020, 9:06 am

There is a good argument for not allowing these quasi-for-profit under the guise of being "religious" intuitions to even play in the NCAA. UCLA threatened to sue the NCAA when the WAC invited Grand Canyon University, they ultimately had to change their business model to be a "non-profit" but they still kind of operate like that anyway, with bloated salaries for top administrators. It certainly something that should be better regulated. Otherwise many of these colleges could easily end up being semi-pro sports programs who essentially pay their athletes to attend these "Private" (Religious) schools.


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Re: Liberty

Post by usubobcat » November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am

Is their mascot an emu?
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Re: Liberty

Post by ViAggie » November 16th, 2020, 2:54 pm

usubobcat wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am
Is their mascot an emu?
Their mascot is a pool boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, too sandboxy? :joking:


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Re: Liberty

Post by RockyMountainHigh » November 16th, 2020, 4:05 pm

ViAggie wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 2:54 pm
usubobcat wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am
Is their mascot an emu?
Their mascot is a pool boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, too sandboxy? :joking:
Good one
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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » November 16th, 2020, 5:10 pm

ViAggie wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 2:54 pm
usubobcat wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am
Is their mascot an emu?
Their mascot is a pool boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, too sandboxy? :joking:
It certainly shows why falwell had no problem bringing in high freeze. It was a controversial hire at the time.



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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie19 » November 16th, 2020, 5:50 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 5:10 pm
ViAggie wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 2:54 pm
usubobcat wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am
Is their mascot an emu?
Their mascot is a pool boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, too sandboxy? :joking:
It certainly shows why falwell had no problem bringing in high freeze. It was a controversial hire at the time.
From my understanding there was a little apprehension on both sides. Freeze wasn't sure he wanted to get into bed with the Falwells. But bless Jerry's heart, he put all those fears to rest. He basically explained, "I understand you might be nervous, but I'm not a hands on guy. When you're on the field, I'll be on the sideline. I'll watch, but I'm not going to interfere in your game. You're the man" I guess after that he was ok. That's what I heard. :noidea:
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Re: Liberty

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » November 16th, 2020, 6:31 pm

Aggie19 wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 5:50 pm
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 5:10 pm
ViAggie wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 2:54 pm
usubobcat wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:36 am
Is their mascot an emu?
Their mascot is a pool boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, too sandboxy? :joking:
It certainly shows why falwell had no problem bringing in high freeze. It was a controversial hire at the time.
From my understanding there was a little apprehension on both sides. Freeze wasn't sure he wanted to get into bed with the Falwells. But bless Jerry's heart, he put all those fears to rest. He basically explained, "I understand you might be nervous, but I'm not a hands on guy. When you're on the field, I'll be on the sideline. I'll watch, but I'm not going to interfere in your game. You're the man" I guess after that he was ok. That's what I heard. :noidea:
You my friend, just won the post of the week award.
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Re: Liberty

Post by NVAggie » November 17th, 2020, 7:27 am

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