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This Pod was great. Skip the stupid P5 fluff Rothstein has at the start.
Some interesting nuggets.
Calhoun has talked with Sprinkle and Odom a lot about the job here. He hasn’t talked to smith all that much.
This has already been known but it really seems to me Craig Smith wants absolutely nothing to do with us anymore. I’m sure Calhoun tried to schedule games with him and obviously it didn’t work out. I think Smith is genuinely afraid of us lol.
He seems like he is close with Dutcher.
Another one: Mason Falslev and Ian Martinez were involved in the interview process. As in, included in the interview asking questions, etc. I like that Sabau did that.
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Calhoun has certainly led the team to outperform my expectations. I am very pleased.
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Re: Calhoun-rothstein
Interview starts at 10:55 at the link in the OP.
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Calhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
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It is possible, but will take more sustained success in the NCAA tourney IMO.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
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Smith knows we would beat his azzz. Byu is way to good to play us just ask there pansy fanz . I say good riddance schedule some neutral games with other p4 teams and go beat them like Gonzaga did in their build up . I think Calhoun has the right mentality he isn’t scared
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Agreed. I love seeing Calhoun go after tough teams. I am sure that once BYU has a full team of guys making $5,000,000 they will be brave enough to play us.BigCountryAG wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:08 pmSmith knows we would beat his azzz. Byu is way to good to play us just ask there pansy fanz . I say good riddance schedule some neutral games with other p4 teams and go beat them like Gonzaga did in their build up . I think Calhoun has the right mentality he isn’t scared
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Re: Calhoun-rothstein
Not only that...he knows that the HURD would have some special things planned for him for his return to the Spectrum.BigCountryAG wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:08 pmSmith knows we would beat his azzz. Byu is way to good to play us just ask there pansy fanz . I say good riddance schedule some neutral games with other p4 teams and go beat them like Gonzaga did in their build up . I think Calhoun has the right mentality he isn’t scared
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For Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
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Regarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
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Re: Calhoun-rothstein
They usually punch above their weight with USU. Aggies are their Super Bowl!Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
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I could see Fresno or Colorado state hiring Smith in a few years, then he might make his way back to the Spectrum. But that is the only way that happens.
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I feel really lucky that when I attended USU we did home and away with the U, y and Weber every year...these games really got students involved in attending games since many had friends/family with ties to the other schools. Super fun games...hope we can figure out how to do this again...maybe rotate Weber with Tech, Uvalley and S.Utah...but do U and y every year.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
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Those were the days. Sad we can't even get one game a year against either Utah or BYU.88USUAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:20 pmI feel really lucky that when I attended USU we did home and away with the U, y and Weber every year...these games really got students involved in attending games since many had friends/family with ties to the other schools. Super fun games...hope we can figure out how to do this again...maybe rotate Weber with Tech, Uvalley and S.Utah...but do U and y every year.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
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It was quite enjoyable to watch them beat BYU, Utah, and Weber St in Dec of 2004, I think Utah was hyped up too because they has Andrew Bogut at the time.88USUAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:20 pmI feel really lucky that when I attended USU we did home and away with the U, y and Weber every year...these games really got students involved in attending games since many had friends/family with ties to the other schools. Super fun games...hope we can figure out how to do this again...maybe rotate Weber with Tech, Uvalley and S.Utah...but do U and y every year.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
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I think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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There was a rotating series with USU, BYU, UU, and I think Weber a few years back in the Delta Center wasn't thereStanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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If Weber stops sucking and becomes a quality opponent again, I would love a 3-game MTE in the Delta Center where we play all three in-state schools. But as long as they are a Q4 game, I would rather try to recruit some non-Utah schools to fill out the field.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:52 pmThere was a rotating series with USU, BYU, UU, and I think Weber a few years back in the Delta Center wasn't thereStanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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BYU and Utah have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing USU — especially in Logan. Their “fear” of the HURD is not driving the bus.Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
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Maybe boise would come down and you could rotate usu/boise vs byu/utahStanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:56 pmIf Weber stops sucking and becomes a quality opponent again, I would love a 3-game MTE in the Delta Center where we play all three in-state schools. But as long as they are a Q4 game, I would rather try to recruit some non-Utah schools to fill out the field.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:52 pmThere was a rotating series with USU, BYU, UU, and I think Weber a few years back in the Delta Center wasn't thereStanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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Its not just power conference teams. Dayton did not play a true road game in OOC either.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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For that matter, USU played one true road game in OOC play. These days most coaches don't want to leave home in OOC play unless it is a TV game on a neutral court.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:11 pmIts not just power conference teams. Dayton did not play a true road game in OOC either.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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Honestly, I agree with the approach. Our program should be extremely selective in who and where we schedule OOC. We’ve earned that position.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:20 pmFor that matter, USU played one true road game in OOC play. These days most coaches don't want to leave home in OOC play unless it is a TV game on a neutral court.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:11 pmIts not just power conference teams. Dayton did not play a true road game in OOC either.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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Yep. Teams like USU have to get "lucky" with good opponents in MTE tournament or go play a "neutral" game such as Iowa in South Dakota as an example. Problem now is though a lot of the MTE have split brackets and have hats in the mall teams on one bracket and G4 in the other.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:20 pmFor that matter, USU played one true road game in OOC play. These days most coaches don't want to leave home in OOC play unless it is a TV game on a neutral court.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:11 pmIts not just power conference teams. Dayton did not play a true road game in OOC either.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
If the Pac-whatever can fill out some other good teams that will help and if we can hold onto a staff and have as much continuity in roster as possible can start to see some better MTE and neutral game opportunities.
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Not an excuse but those losses have all been painfully close with our coaches usually acting uncharacteristically timid. Calhoun's a bada*s, I like our chances.WAaggieFan wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:09 pmThey usually punch above their weight with USU. Aggies are their Super Bowl!Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.![]()
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Calhoun does what he wantsOrangeCountyAggie wrote:Not an excuse but those losses have all been painfully close with our coaches usually acting uncharacteristically timid. Calhoun's a bada*s, I like our chances.WAaggieFan wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:09 pmThey usually punch above their weight with USU. Aggies are their Super Bowl!Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.![]()
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Not true at all. Quite the opposite. Both those teams would enjoy a sellout if they hosted USU (Utah is struggling with attendance) plus the positive media attention is good for business. Going to Logan cuts back on travel expenses and the fans enjoy it. Either way, win or loose Utah State is a Q1 opponent which boosts your OCC strength of schedule.utaggies wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:56 pmBYU and Utah have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing USU — especially in Logan. Their “fear” of the HURD is not driving the bus.Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
The only conceivable reason they don't schedule those games is because they're tiny-dick loosers.
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Utah state in SLC would be the most tickets Utah has sold in years. The hurd would travel well and they know that. They would have smith's (I can't express myself without swearing) and he won't agree to that.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:48 pmNot true at all. Quite the opposite. Both those teams would enjoy a sellout if they hosted USU (Utah is struggling with attendance) plus the positive media attention is good for business. Going to Logan cuts back on travel expenses and the fans enjoy it. Either way, win or loose Utah State is a Q1 opponent which boosts your OCC strength of schedule.utaggies wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:56 pmBYU and Utah have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing USU — especially in Logan. Their “fear” of the HURD is not driving the bus.Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
The only conceivable reason they don't schedule those games is because they're tiny-dick loosers.
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Edited.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:54 pmUtah state in SLC would be the most tickets Utah has sold in years (OOC). The hurd would travel well and they know that. They would have smith's (I can't express myself without swearing) and he won't agree to that.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 3:48 pmNot true at all. Quite the opposite. Both those teams would enjoy a sellout if they hosted USU (Utah is struggling with attendance) plus the positive media attention is good for business. Going to Logan cuts back on travel expenses and the fans enjoy it. Either way, win or loose Utah State is a Q1 opponent which boosts your OCC strength of schedule.utaggies wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:56 pmBYU and Utah have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing USU — especially in Logan. Their “fear” of the HURD is not driving the bus.Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
The only conceivable reason they don't schedule those games is because they're tiny-dick loosers.
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BYU didn't even schedule the game against Providence. It was scheduled for them as part of the Big 12/Big East Challenge.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:43 pmI think the bigger issue is that power conference schools don't really play true road games in OOC play any more. Utah played two neutral games and zero true road games in OOC this season. BYU played only one true road game. It was against Providence, and we know how that turned out. I think the likelihood that either school will agree to a series that requires them to play in Logan is virtually nil.
If we want to get BYU and Utah on the schedule, I think the best option would be to create some kind of MTE at the Delta Center. USU, BYU, and Utah will all be Q1/Q2 teams on a neutral court most years, so I would like to think we could attract some decent teams to fill out the field. Of course, maybe not, because it would be a highly partisan "neutral" crowd. But that's probably the only way that this is going to happen.
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As long as byu and Utah are in a p4 it’s not gonna happen we are beating a dead horse! It’s risk vs reward Utah needs the wins cause they ain’t winning (I can't express myself without swearing) in b12 and byu thinks they are elite more now than ever .. better tourneys and as many neutral or even away at mid p4 and build that Utah state name. Calhoun will realize unless the governor or legislature gets involved it isn’t happening and move on!
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That Utah game was a clinic. Bogut was completely exposed.MalAgua wrote:It was quite enjoyable to watch them beat BYU, Utah, and Weber St in Dec of 2004, I think Utah was hyped up too because they has Andrew Bogut at the time.88USUAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:20 pmI feel really lucky that when I attended USU we did home and away with the U, y and Weber every year...these games really got students involved in attending games since many had friends/family with ties to the other schools. Super fun games...hope we can figure out how to do this again...maybe rotate Weber with Tech, Uvalley and S.Utah...but do U and y every year.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
Wasn't it the Utah ad a few years ago that said he'd never schedule Utah State again? Maybe it was in football after we beat them in Logan?
The games would be great but no chance those two schedule us. They both think they are big time so they won't come to Logan. You might swing a neutral court game at the Delta center or whatever it's called these days. I'm sure they'd ask for some unequal ticket money distribution and make it horrible for us.
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Lol what are you talking about? We’ve made it to the Tourney 5 out of the last 6 years (if you include 2020), and we’re well on our way to making it 6 out of 7. You beat USU, that’s a Q1 win on your resume. We can’t necessarily say the same about playing and beating Utah.utaggies wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:56 pmBYU and Utah have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing USU — especially in Logan. Their “fear” of the HURD is not driving the bus.Yossarian wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:05 pmRegarding BYU being too "big" for USU - we all realize that BYU has beaten USU 9 straight games and 12 of the last 14, right?Aggie702 wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:57 pmFor Utah, I doubt it happens until Smith is let go (maybe at end of this season?). Smith, Sprinkle, Odom want nothing to do with the Hurd. Doubt we ever see any former head coach make it back to Logan while head coach of another team. More likely to be a scenario like Duryea or Larry that are assistants. If we face a former head coach, would likely be MTE or postseason tourney.ajm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 12:00 pmCalhoun has mentioned on multiple shows how bad he wants to revive the in-state rivalries and play BYU/Utah every year. Even offered to do home/away series and go down there first. Smith knows he hasn't achieved anything since leaving and he probably doesn't want to hear it from our fans.
I would love to see these games become a yearly thing it would be great but it sounds nearly impossible to get good teams to visit the spectrum in non-conference games.
BYU - possible it could happen with their new coach. However, with the money they are spending on players, etc., they probably think they are still too big for Logan. I could see them being open to SLC game though.
And realistically for it to happen, I think we need a coach to stick around for a few years and build up relationships. We keep getting these short coaching cycles were coaches are scrambling to put together rosters and schedules late in the game. I think some coaching continuity would really help our scheduling.
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Me too. I loved the fact that we played BYU, Utah, and Weber twice each season when I was at USU. It was so stupid to let that tradition die.88USUAggie wrote: ↑January 6th, 2025, 1:20 pmI feel really lucky that when I attended USU we did home and away with the U, y and Weber every year...these games really got students involved in attending games since many had friends/family with ties to the other schools. Super fun games...hope we can figure out how to do this again...maybe rotate Weber with Tech, Uvalley and S.Utah...but do U and y every year.
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