Great & Sprinkle are big…

pilotaggie · Post by **pilotaggie** » January 12th, 2025, 8:39 pm

ajm wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 11:07 pm
Too many to call us lucky. DB was the most clutch player I’ve ever seen. I really think the way he played and ran the court made great and sprinkle look a lot better

Chaz Spicer has entered the chat. DB definitely is right there with him but in the clutch to knock down a shot or about 10 free throws I'm giving it to Spicer. Spicer wasn't going to run the floor like DB though.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » January 12th, 2025, 9:52 pm

pilotaggie wrote: ↑
January 12th, 2025, 8:39 pm

ajm wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 11:07 pm
Too many to call us lucky. DB was the most clutch player I’ve ever seen. I really think the way he played and ran the court made great and sprinkle look a lot better
Chaz Spicer has entered the chat. DB definitely is right there with him but in the clutch to knock down a shot or about 10 free throws I'm giving it to Spicer. Spicer wasn't going to run the floor like DB though.

Chaz had the Utah buzzer beater, and the two Nevada games at the FT line right? Darius literally won what, 8?

pilotaggie · Post by **pilotaggie** » January 12th, 2025, 10:39 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
pilotaggie wrote: ↑
January 12th, 2025, 8:39 pm

ajm wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 11:07 pm
Too many to call us lucky. DB was the most clutch player I’ve ever seen. I really think the way he played and ran the court made great and sprinkle look a lot better
Chaz Spicer has entered the chat. DB definitely is right there with him but in the clutch to knock down a shot or about 10 free throws I'm giving it to Spicer. Spicer wasn't going to run the floor like DB though.
Chaz had the Utah buzzer beater, and the two Nevada games at the FT line right? Darius literally won what, 8?

I'm not saying DB wasn't good. I'm just putting up another name.

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Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » January 13th, 2025, 8:01 am

pilotaggie wrote: ↑
January 12th, 2025, 8:39 pm

ajm wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 11:07 pm
Too many to call us lucky. DB was the most clutch player I’ve ever seen. I really think the way he played and ran the court made great and sprinkle look a lot better
Chaz Spicer has entered the chat. DB definitely is right there with him but in the clutch to knock down a shot or about 10 free throws I'm giving it to Spicer. Spicer wasn't going to run the floor like DB though.

Spicer was a bad, bad man. Cold to drop game winning shots and look totally unaffected afterward.

Different era, different coach. Same clutch gene.

ChowderAggie · Post by **ChowderAggie** » January 24th, 2025, 8:22 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 8:26 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 7:13 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 9th, 2025, 7:05 pm
Playing away at a great Michigan State team, but down 42-13 at half.

Osobor 1 point
Aggies got the deal of the century. Sprinkle’s buy out + Osobor’s NIL + Coach Calhoun hiring all to end up in a better situation as a program than we would’ve been if Sprinkle stayed.
It's bizarro world, or the twilight zone... Like so weird. Did Washington not buy some other players to play with Great? He was SO good last year.

It seems not. Washington is ranked 18th in the Big 10 at 1-7 (dead last).

GUS · Post by **GUS** » January 24th, 2025, 8:46 am

Great can count his money while watching the Aggies in the tournament.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » January 24th, 2025, 9:46 am

GUS wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:46 am
Great can count his money while watching the Aggies in the tournament.

They may not even qualify for their conference tournament

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » January 24th, 2025, 4:30 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 9:46 am

GUS wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:46 am
Great can count his money while watching the Aggies in the tournament.
They may not even qualify for their conference tournament

"Nobody Cares!"

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm

Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.

Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » January 24th, 2025, 7:55 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot

20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.

FeartheFro · Post by **FeartheFro** » January 24th, 2025, 8:20 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot
20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.

Just out of curiosity, what player in the current NBA do you most think his game resembles?

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Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » January 24th, 2025, 9:15 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:20 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot
20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.
Just out of curiosity, what player in the current NBA do you most think his game resembles?

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He’s taken a step back this year but he was trending towards being a Playmaking 4/5 and his swing skill would’ve been if he could develop his 3 pt shot. Had he never left. He was much better shape last year.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » January 24th, 2025, 9:51 pm

I guess you don’t have to pay rent when you own the house.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » January 24th, 2025, 10:03 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:20 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot
20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.
Just out of curiosity, what player in the current NBA do you most think his game resembles?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kenneth Lofton Jr

bpd · Post by **bpd** » January 24th, 2025, 10:07 pm

From an individual point, Great is having a good year. Putting up good numbers and is consistently doubled.

stewusu98 · Post by **stewusu98** » January 25th, 2025, 8:25 am

GUS wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:46 am
Great can count his money while watching the Aggies in the tournament.

Unfortunately with all that money…. “Rent is due”….lol

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » January 25th, 2025, 11:05 am

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:20 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot
20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.
Just out of curiosity, what player in the current NBA do you most think his game resembles?

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I don't see where he would fit in today's NBA which is basically a bunch of 6'9 players running up and down the court and either jacking up a three or running a basic pick and roll trying to get an alley-oop at the basket. This is not Great's wheelhouse. He may have been told this by scouts last year when he weighed going into the NBA draft, which may have been the reason he took the $$ to go to Washington; get the $$ while it's there because the NBA probably isn't a real option for him.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » January 25th, 2025, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2025, 11:05 am

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 8:20 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:27 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
January 24th, 2025, 6:05 pm
Has Great hurt his NBA stock with the move? It sure feels that way.
Hmm. I’m not sure he’s ever had a lot
20 and 10 at USU would have equated to a late round pick imho.
Just out of curiosity, what player in the current NBA do you most think his game resembles?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I don't see where he would fit in today's NBA which is basically a bunch of 6'9 players running up and down the court and either jacking up a three or running a basic pick and roll trying to get an alley-oop at the basket. This is not Great's wheelhouse. He may have been told this by scouts last year when he weighed going into the NBA draft, which may have been the reason he took the $$ to go to Washington; get the $$ while it's there because the NBA probably isn't a real option for him.

Great post Florida and I agree with you. I could see him doing very well overseas.

tipitup · Post by **tipitup** » January 25th, 2025, 6:43 pm

It was frustrating seeing great play last night. A great first half and 3 points in the second half. There are a lot of selfish players on that Washington team and they don’t look very good!!! Or at least last night they didn’t. When Washington needed a run there were about 10 possession's in a row that great didn’t even touch the ball!!! I feel for him.

Coloraggie · Post by **Coloraggie** » January 25th, 2025, 7:01 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2025, 6:43 pm
It was frustrating seeing great play last night. A great first half and 3 points in the second half. There are a lot of selfish players on that Washington team and they don’t look very good!!! Or at least last night they didn’t. When Washington needed a run there were about 10 possession's in a row that great didn’t even touch the ball!!! I feel for him.

That seemed to happen in stretches for us last year too. Don't know if it is Sprinkle or Great being out of shape and needing a rest but that was or weakness last year when Great wouldn't touch the ball for minutes at a time.

MontanaAggie · Post by **MontanaAggie** » January 25th, 2025, 7:51 pm

Coloraggie wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2025, 7:01 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2025, 6:43 pm
It was frustrating seeing great play last night. A great first half and 3 points in the second half. There are a lot of selfish players on that Washington team and they don’t look very good!!! Or at least last night they didn’t. When Washington needed a run there were about 10 possession's in a row that great didn’t even touch the ball!!! I feel for him.
That seemed to happen in stretches for us last year too. Don't know if it is Sprinkle or Great being out of shape and needing a rest but that was or weakness last year when Great wouldn't touch the ball for minutes at a time.

I agree. He would seem to "shrink" a little once he got tired

SLB · Post by **SLB** » January 26th, 2025, 12:48 pm

When I said talked about predicting Sprinkle getting fired after year 1, it was simply looking at a roster that had no chance in the Big Ten while players like Great and others are gone after the season for one reason or another.
1-8 in the Big Ten
so far lost 6 straight games
Lost to Nevada and Seattle while playing a really weak nonconference schedule
10-10 so far on the season with over a month of Big Ten basketball to play
Why transfer to or stay at Washington after this season?

SLB · Post by **SLB** » January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm

People underestimate how much talent was on the 23-24 Aggie team
Darius Brown in the G-League
8.2 points and 4.1 assists per game

Looks like he is on his way to the NBA
24-25 season Points per game for 23-24 Aggies
Martinez 17.0
Uduje 15.6
Osobor 15.5
Falslev 15.4
Jackson 13.0
Agbonkpolo 11.6
Templin 9.0
Burris 8.0
Sakho 7.6
Johnson 4.2
Martinez, Uduje, Osobor, and Jackson lead their respective team in points per game.
Of the 7 teams, 4 of them leading scorers are from the 23-24 Aggie team.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » January 26th, 2025, 1:38 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm

Man, what a performance—he was feeling it. His three at 2:18 of that clip was excellent.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » January 26th, 2025, 1:51 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:38 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm

Man, what a performance—he was feeling it. His three at 2:18 of that clip was excellent.

A year ago, I said that Brown looked like an NBA player. It is dumb that the NBA teams did not use a draft pick on Brown. Osobor got the hype, but Osobor has a very limited game and not a great rebounder that sometimes got in the way. He is getting rebounds at Washington due to having lots of playing time and no one else getting rebounds.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » January 26th, 2025, 2:04 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm
People underestimate how much talent was on the 23-24 Aggie team
Darius Brown in the G-League
8.2 points and 4.1 assists per game

Looks like he is on his way to the NBA
24-25 season Points per game for 23-24 Aggies
Martinez 17.0
Uduje 15.6
Osobor 15.5
Falslev 15.4
Jackson 13.0
Agbonkpolo 11.6
Templin 9.0
Burris 8.0
Sakho 7.6
Johnson 4.2
Martinez, Uduje, Osobor, and Jackson lead their respective team in points per game.
Of the 7 teams, 4 of them leading scorers are from the 23-24 Aggie team.

When we heard Sprinkle, and now we hear Calhoun ask for more NIL, I get it. More money would make it easier to get players you want, win those recruiting battles against bigger schools, totally makes sense.

Has USU somewhat benefitted from their limited NIL situation? Forces coaches to recruit good guys who are wanting to play against bigger competition, but don't necessarily have the measurements the Big 10 is looking for?

The recruiting pitch is "you can come earn your minutes for the privilege to play in the Spectrum and the MNT West" vs "oh please come play, we'll get you a bit more money, have a car deal lined up, oh please oh please"

Just a thought, I give to the Blue A Collective, I want to be in the top 4 teams in the PAC, just a thought

ImportAggie · Post by **ImportAggie** » January 26th, 2025, 2:19 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 2:04 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm
People underestimate how much talent was on the 23-24 Aggie team
Darius Brown in the G-League
8.2 points and 4.1 assists per game

Looks like he is on his way to the NBA
24-25 season Points per game for 23-24 Aggies
Martinez 17.0
Uduje 15.6
Osobor 15.5
Falslev 15.4
Jackson 13.0
Agbonkpolo 11.6
Templin 9.0
Burris 8.0
Sakho 7.6
Johnson 4.2
Martinez, Uduje, Osobor, and Jackson lead their respective team in points per game.
Of the 7 teams, 4 of them leading scorers are from the 23-24 Aggie team.
When we heard Sprinkle, and now we hear Calhoun ask for more NIL, I get it. More money would make it easier to get players you want, win those recruiting battles against bigger schools, totally makes sense.

Has USU somewhat benefitted from their limited NIL situation? Forces coaches to recruit good guys who are wanting to play against bigger competition, but don't necessarily have the measurements the Big 10 is looking for?

The recruiting pitch is "you can come earn your minutes for the privilege to play in the Spectrum and the MNT West" vs "oh please come play, we'll get you a bit more money, have a car deal lined up, oh please oh please"

Just a thought, I give to the Blue A Collective, I want to be in the top 4 teams in the PAC, just a thought

I think there’s some truth to this. I definitely don’t want to be money bags BYU and recruit soulless loto picks, but a little extra dough always opens doors.

I do think our tradition and recruiting style has attracted the right kind of transfer player.

I do find it interesting to consider our incoming class of freshman. It’s a lot of high school kids!. My working hypothesis - Calhoun wants to develop guys who buy into the system and replicate the Masons & KT’s, and save the big NIL to keep the important pieces and go after 1 or 2 BIG transfer pickups (dual meaning behind big, in this case)

MetsJetsAggies · Post by **MetsJetsAggies** » January 27th, 2025, 2:21 am

ImportAggie wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 2:19 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 2:04 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm
People underestimate how much talent was on the 23-24 Aggie team
Darius Brown in the G-League
8.2 points and 4.1 assists per game

Looks like he is on his way to the NBA
24-25 season Points per game for 23-24 Aggies
Martinez 17.0
Uduje 15.6
Osobor 15.5
Falslev 15.4
Jackson 13.0
Agbonkpolo 11.6
Templin 9.0
Burris 8.0
Sakho 7.6
Johnson 4.2
Martinez, Uduje, Osobor, and Jackson lead their respective team in points per game.
Of the 7 teams, 4 of them leading scorers are from the 23-24 Aggie team.
When we heard Sprinkle, and now we hear Calhoun ask for more NIL, I get it. More money would make it easier to get players you want, win those recruiting battles against bigger schools, totally makes sense.

Has USU somewhat benefitted from their limited NIL situation? Forces coaches to recruit good guys who are wanting to play against bigger competition, but don't necessarily have the measurements the Big 10 is looking for?

The recruiting pitch is "you can come earn your minutes for the privilege to play in the Spectrum and the MNT West" vs "oh please come play, we'll get you a bit more money, have a car deal lined up, oh please oh please"

Just a thought, I give to the Blue A Collective, I want to be in the top 4 teams in the PAC, just a thought
I think there’s some truth to this. I definitely don’t want to be money bags BYU and recruit soulless loto picks, but a little extra dough always opens doors.

I do think our tradition and recruiting style has attracted the right kind of transfer player.

I do find it interesting to consider our incoming class of freshman. It’s a lot of high school kids!. My working hypothesis - Calhoun wants to develop guys who buy into the system and replicate the Masons & KT’s, and save the big NIL to keep the important pieces and go after 1 or 2 BIG transfer pickups (dual meaning behind big, in this case)

Our NIL money should go to keeping guys mostly. Loyal guys like Mason who will eventually have big offers elsewhere, try to get enough money together to keep them around and Aggies for life or at least 2-3 years.

We can get Freshman/Sophomore transfers and tell them with a couple years of nice minutes and playing in the tournament here they too can get a nice payday either by us to keep them or a power conf school like Washington offering millions.

The rest of it can go to a senior transfer to round out the roster like a big man or PG. I don’t know how much we gave Akanno but he was a really nice late addition to the roster and rounded it out with his experience, size and all around game.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » January 27th, 2025, 8:52 am

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:51 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:38 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2025, 1:11 pm

Man, what a performance—he was feeling it. His three at 2:18 of that clip was excellent.
A year ago, I said that Brown looked like an NBA player. It is dumb that the NBA teams did not use a draft pick on Brown. Osobor got the hype, but Osobor has a very limited game and not a great rebounder that sometimes got in the way. He is getting rebounds at Washington due to having lots of playing time and no one else getting rebounds.

A terrible take. Why try to devalue his contribution? He's getting rebound because he's in a lot and nobody else is getting them? Or is he in a lot and nobody else gets the rebound BECAUSE he's getting the rebounds? You make it sound like Washington only has 5 players, and everyone (including the other team) lets the ball go and watches him pick it up off the ground after it stops bouncing.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » January 27th, 2025, 9:38 am

I'm sure their efforts are based on their NIL accounts. I see this being a problem for a lot of teams.

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » January 27th, 2025, 3:52 pm

Could we also see guys struggle because of the money? If you gave me a couple million in College I'm not sure how motivated or responsible I would be. Young guys in the NBA have a business system built in. College is a free for all.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » January 27th, 2025, 4:20 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 3:52 pm
Could we also see guys struggle because of the money? If you gave me a couple million in College I'm not sure how motivated or responsible I would be. Young guys in the NBA have a business system built in. College is a free for all.

I could definitely see this. Getting 2 mil sure didn't help Osobor get into shape in the off season. I think NIL also can cause locker room issues between players working their butt off for much less payout. You'll also have chemistry issues and hero ball with players hoping to make more NIL the next year by being the star.

YouEssYou · Post by **YouEssYou** » January 27th, 2025, 4:46 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 4:20 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 3:52 pm
Could we also see guys struggle because of the money? If you gave me a couple million in College I'm not sure how motivated or responsible I would be. Young guys in the NBA have a business system built in. College is a free for all.
I could definitely see this. Getting 2 mil sure didn't help Osobor get into shape in the off season. I think NIL also can cause locker room issues between players working their butt off for much less payout. You'll also have chemistry issues and hero ball with players hoping to make more NIL the next year by being the star.

Not to hijack the thread, but that's why i like Bronco's approach to nil. Everyone starts at the same place and has the same opportunity to work hard and get paid.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » January 27th, 2025, 4:54 pm

YouEssYou wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 4:46 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 4:20 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
January 27th, 2025, 3:52 pm
Could we also see guys struggle because of the money? If you gave me a couple million in College I'm not sure how motivated or responsible I would be. Young guys in the NBA have a business system built in. College is a free for all.
I could definitely see this. Getting 2 mil sure didn't help Osobor get into shape in the off season. I think NIL also can cause locker room issues between players working their butt off for much less payout. You'll also have chemistry issues and hero ball with players hoping to make more NIL the next year by being the star.
Not to hijack the thread, but that's why i like Bronco's approach to nil. Everyone starts at the same place and has the same opportunity to work hard and get paid.

I think that's Calhoun's approach too.

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