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What if Sprinkle had stayed?
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Dkdavis
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What if Sprinkle had stayed?
If Sprinkle had stayed, which players that got minutes this year would have left? I'm honestly amazed to see no one go with him. It's crazy how I went from thinking Sprinkle was the best coach and that we needed to do everything we could to keep him to questioning whether he would succeed at his next school. I still think he's a good coach, but I'm also realizing how blue my googles were.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Hopefully, you will soon feel the same way about Calhoun.Dkdavis wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:34 pmIf Sprinkle had stayed, which players that got minutes this year would have left? I'm honestly amazed to see no one go with him. It's crazy how I went from thinking Sprinkle was the best coach and that we needed to do everything we could to keep him to questioning whether he would succeed at his next school. I still think he's a good coach, but I'm also realizing how blue my googles were.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Pretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
This. The fact the Tim Duryea was able to win half his games here says a lot.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I remember how jarring it was watching a Craig Smith coached team and watch them actually run an offense as opposed to a Duryea coached team the year before; where it looked like he just rolled the ball out and said “make baskets”. It was especially surprising since Duryea sat next to Stew Morrill for so long, who was considered one of the best X’s and O’s Coaches during his time.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:56 pmThis. The fact the Tim Duryea was able to win half his games here says a lot.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I’ve stated this multiple times since there were talks ofineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
Sprinkle leaving. I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the tradition and atmosphere, not the coach.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I mean, the coach has to be good too, but I think just about any coach is going to look better here than at most places.Usu0505 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 7:40 pmI’ve stated this multiple times since there were talks ofineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
Sprinkle leaving. I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the tradition and atmosphere, not the coach.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Utah state has proven if you hire a guy who has been even a decent HC somewhere else they'll find success at USU. It is when the hire has been a question mark (plain, khon and duryea) that it doesn't work out. Calhoun was good at Youngstown State. If he doesn't have success at USU he'll be bucking some serious long term trends that have gone back decades. I think he'll do just fineineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 7:54 pmI mean, the coach has to be good too, but I think just about any coach is going to look better here than at most places.Usu0505 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 7:40 pmI’ve stated this multiple times since there were talks ofineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
Sprinkle leaving. I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the tradition and atmosphere, not the coach.
Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Let’s pump the brakes on this a little. Smith, Odom, and Sprinkle are all good coaches. Calhoun hasn’t coached a game at Utah State yet.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I agree, I just hope the fan base has some patience with a new coach. Last year was lightning in a bottle.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:32 pmUtah state has proven if you hire a guy who has been even a decent HC somewhere else they'll find success at USU. It is when the hire has been a question mark (plain, khon and duryea) that it doesn't work out. Calhoun was good at Youngstown State. If he doesn't have success at USU he'll be bucking some serious long term trends that have gone back decades. I think he'll do just fineineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 7:54 pmI mean, the coach has to be good too, but I think just about any coach is going to look better here than at most places.Usu0505 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 7:40 pmI’ve stated this multiple times since there were talks ofineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 6:43 pmPretty soon people are going to start to realize it’s USU that’s special, not necessarily the coaches.
I am firmly convinced that USU will make average coaches look good and good coaches look great.
Sprinkle leaving. I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the tradition and atmosphere, not the coach.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Agreed. But I'm petty. Therefore, I enjoy the fact that neither Smith or Odom have made the tourney since they left USU. And none of our players/recruits have followed Sprinkle (yet). Even Odom got Shulga and Bairstow to go with.
As far as I know, Sprinks has only signed one guy so far (a rice transfer) and a key big man he was going after (Oregon St transfer) picked UCLA.
In the long run, all three will be fine and win plenty of games.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
But Smith was able to do something at Utah that USU has not done… win in the NIT…Aggie702 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:46 pmAgreed. But I'm petty. Therefore, I enjoy the fact that neither Smith or Odom have made the tourney since they left USU. And none of our players/recruits have followed Sprinkle (yet). Even Odom got Shulga and Bairstow to go with.
As far as I know, Sprinks has only signed one guy so far (a rice transfer) and a key big man he was going after (Oregon St transfer) picked UCLA.
In the long run, all three will be fine and win plenty of games.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I'll take two games in the NCAA over getting into the semi-finals in the NIT ANY DAY of the week!BioAggie wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:48 pmBut Smith was able to do something at Utah that USU has not done… win in the NIT…Aggie702 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:46 pmAgreed. But I'm petty. Therefore, I enjoy the fact that neither Smith or Odom have made the tourney since they left USU. And none of our players/recruits have followed Sprinkle (yet). Even Odom got Shulga and Bairstow to go with.
As far as I know, Sprinks has only signed one guy so far (a rice transfer) and a key big man he was going after (Oregon St transfer) picked UCLA.
In the long run, all three will be fine and win plenty of games.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Me too! 100%ViAggie wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 12:14 pmI'll take two games in the NCAA over getting into the semi-finals in the NIT ANY DAY of the week!BioAggie wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:48 pmBut Smith was able to do something at Utah that USU has not done… win in the NIT…Aggie702 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:46 pmAgreed. But I'm petty. Therefore, I enjoy the fact that neither Smith or Odom have made the tourney since they left USU. And none of our players/recruits have followed Sprinkle (yet). Even Odom got Shulga and Bairstow to go with.
As far as I know, Sprinks has only signed one guy so far (a rice transfer) and a key big man he was going after (Oregon St transfer) picked UCLA.
In the long run, all three will be fine and win plenty of games.
I’m just say he took a crappy Utah program and has turned them around. If he had done this at USU after the D-word years instead of going to the NCAAs as we did, we would have been as happy as ever.
I don’t regret the path we have taken, but had things been different, we would not have had any referees there either.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
What if? NOBODY CARES!
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
He improved them from where he took over, but he'll have to go to the dance next year to keep his job. He also only went on a NIT run because all the games were at home. Once they played a road game in the NIT(Indiana State close to their campus) they did what they did all of last year away from home and lost.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 12:30 pmMe too! 100%ViAggie wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 12:14 pmI'll take two games in the NCAA over getting into the semi-finals in the NIT ANY DAY of the week!BioAggie wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:48 pmBut Smith was able to do something at Utah that USU has not done… win in the NIT…Aggie702 wrote: ↑April 22nd, 2024, 8:46 pmAgreed. But I'm petty. Therefore, I enjoy the fact that neither Smith or Odom have made the tourney since they left USU. And none of our players/recruits have followed Sprinkle (yet). Even Odom got Shulga and Bairstow to go with.
As far as I know, Sprinks has only signed one guy so far (a rice transfer) and a key big man he was going after (Oregon St transfer) picked UCLA.
In the long run, all three will be fine and win plenty of games.
I’m just say he took a crappy Utah program and has turned them around. If he had done this at USU after the D-word years instead of going to the NCAAs as we did, we would have been as happy as ever.
I don’t regret the path we have taken, but had things been different, we would not have had any referees there either.
He'll have to do it without Carlson, Deivon Smith and Nebraska bound Rollie Worster(maybe he'll play football and lead Nebraska back to glory). I bet next year is Smith's last year in Utah.
Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
This thread brings to surface something I had not thought about. With unlimited transfers coaches at lower tier programs that have success will have even less incentive to stick around after a good year simply because they run the risk of getting all their players poached and having to build from scratch all over again. Just as easy now to start from scratch at a new location that pays more. P5’s may start to cycle through coaches faster with some one hit wonders entering their ranks. I wonder if the coaching carrossel will start to spiral even further out of control.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Nah, coaches at lower tier programs weren't rejecting offers before when they had one good year.nswaggie wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 5:35 pmThis thread brings to surface something I had not thought about. With unlimited transfers coaches at lower tier programs that have success will have even less incentive to stick around after a good year simply because they run the risk of getting all their players poached and having to build from scratch all over again. Just as easy now to start from scratch at a new location that pays more. P5’s may start to cycle through coaches faster with some one hit wonders entering their ranks. I wonder if the coaching carrossel will start to spiral even further out of control.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I said at the time Sprinkle would stay, but he made a very poor decision going to,a school that is in transition fro PAC. To B1G. He will be under more pressure and could regret the hasty departure, money is not everything.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
I get what you are saying but there were exceptions.Dusty May could have left Florida Atlantic a year ago, Stew stuck around, all I’m saying is those types will now be less likely to stick and wait out the right opportunity when all their players are gonna get poached.Blitz79 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 5:41 pmNah, coaches at lower tier programs weren't rejecting offers before when they had one good year.nswaggie wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 5:35 pmThis thread brings to surface something I had not thought about. With unlimited transfers coaches at lower tier programs that have success will have even less incentive to stick around after a good year simply because they run the risk of getting all their players poached and having to build from scratch all over again. Just as easy now to start from scratch at a new location that pays more. P5’s may start to cycle through coaches faster with some one hit wonders entering their ranks. I wonder if the coaching carrossel will start to spiral even further out of control.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
The irony is the fact after costs the amount between Utah State's highest offer vs Washington is not that much different in amount of money.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Great point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
From the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
lol does that mean he got misled twice in a row about available NIL?!bigblue32 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:48 pmFrom the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
It was reported they were ponying up $3.5M for NIL budget for him.
I will say that the former byu basketball player close to the Ashworth family told me Washington offered Ashworth $600k last year.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
What I figuredbigblue32 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:48 pmFrom the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
There are the housing costs, taxes, private security costs, and etc. that add up.
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
And for a single non mormon dude a way better quality of life and double the money but we can pretendSLB wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pmWhat I figuredbigblue32 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:48 pmFrom the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
There are the housing costs, taxes, private security costs, and etc. that add up.
Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
Lol yep. I love Logan and would like to possibly some day live there again, but Seattle would be a pretty awesome place to be a millionaire.TrueAG wrote:And for a single non mormon dude a way better quality of life and double the money but we can pretendSLB wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pmWhat I figuredbigblue32 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:48 pmFrom the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
There are the housing costs, taxes, private security costs, and etc. that add up.
Anybody acting like Sprinkle, a non-Mormon single dude with zero ties to Utah, isn’t getting a major upgrade in quality of life is kidding themselves
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Re: What if Sprinkle had stayed?
He has already thrown out a pitch for the Mariners. Being rich and semi celebrity in a big city doesn't suck.shoresy wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 8:02 pmLol yep. I love Logan and would like to possibly some day live there again, but Seattle would be a pretty awesome place to be a millionaire.TrueAG wrote:And for a single non mormon dude a way better quality of life and double the money but we can pretendSLB wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pmWhat I figuredbigblue32 wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:48 pmFrom the UW fans I interact with, they’re all saying Danny has been pleading for more NIL for basketball. Not joking. Apparently their biggest booster is in wait and see mode with Basketball NIL. Turns out most dollars are very much earmarked for footballRoy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2024, 7:42 pmGreat point. When you factor total compensation with salary, assistant coaches salary pool, and NIL budget, it was probably only about $4M/year more at Washington.
Nearly verbatim the speech he gave here
There are the housing costs, taxes, private security costs, and etc. that add up.
Anybody acting like Sprinkle, a non-Mormon single dude with zero ties to Utah, isn’t getting a major upgrade in quality of life is kidding themselves