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I'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-baske ... 2024-03-28Elkaggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:41 pmBack to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
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They were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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No thanks!QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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Thanks, they were also up and comers and much younger than TK. Also, much different landscape today than back then. Also, their teams absolutely played D at a high level.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:45 pmId go to sports-reference.com. you are definitely entitled to want whoever as coach, but keep in mind Larry, stew and Craig had a combined 1 NCAA tournament appearance and 3 nit appearances and most people felt they were pretty good coaches at USU.Elkaggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:41 pmBack to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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So you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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Creighton did lose to Colorado State and UNLV…bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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There's more than that. I haven't watched them play, but look at their stats and roster.Aggie4L1fe wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 1:24 pmJavan Simmons 6’7 redshirt freshman
12 ppg 5 rpg 1.5 apg
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The most attractive players on who played under TK last year.
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And they beat UConn and are a 3 seed.BasketballAgg wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:07 pmCreighton did lose to Colorado State and UNLV…bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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The way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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We need to wait and see who he retains as assistants. Even with that kind of defense, he still won 27 games last year. Even in the MAC, that's not easy to do. You don't win as many games as he has won without knowing how to coach and recruit. I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of everybody's Sprinkle God, but it looks like to me that he can coach and win. And that's what we need. If he brings in a couple of his players, especially if Mason doesn't stay and we lose a recruit or two, we're going to need them.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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This isn't Odom we're hiring.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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It’s really hard to play that style really well. I sincerely doubt that TK would be able to have us playing that style at that level.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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Donman wrote:I had Twitter discussions with people on it.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:Lol Johnny couldn't do it, maybe you can. Please tell me who besides Gus has pushed for miles?Donman wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 5:50 pmI saw those threads. They prefer someone who finished 10th to a coach who won his conferenceJonnyCienPesos wrote:Wait….for real? Are we all going to pretend like people here weren’t wanting to hire Tim Miles??shoresy wrote:Who the hell was pining for the 10th place coach in the MW other than Gus?JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 4:17 pmTod is the same age as Tim Miles. Everyone was pining for Tim.
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I havent watched either team this year. Do they play pussy ball like Odom's teams? If so, no. I watched Odom's team play last night. No defense. No boxing out. No physical play. No intensity. No fun.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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Don't like those D numbers a bit. Is that adjusted for pace?QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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The defensive efficiency numbers on kenpom.com would be a good place to start. I took a quick glance at it, and definitely is true that Kowalczyk's teams consistently had better offensive numbers than defensive numbers. (The defensive efficiency numbers tended to range between mediocre and bad.) Again, though, if you look at Simon's numbers at SUU, they were just as bad if not worse.Elkaggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:41 pmBack to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
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The efficiency numbers are adjusted for pace. Some of Kowalczyk's defenses were better than that, but his defensive numbers were consistently much worse than his offensive numbers. The same was true for Simon, though.GeoAg wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:32 pmDon't like those D numbers a bit. Is that adjusted for pace?QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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USU last year under Odom finished the year at 70th for defense. With Sprinkle this year USU was 82 in defense according to kenpom. Odoms team last year was damn good just as Sprinkles team was very good this year as well.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:29 pmI havent watched either team this year. Do they play pussy ball like Odom's teams? If so, no. I watched Odom's team play last night. No defense. No boxing out. No physical play. No intensity. No fun.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:29 pmGotta love the behind the keyboard tough guy. Odom and his “pussy” style has as many tournament wins as Mr tough as naills Stew.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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I havent watched either team this year. Do they play pussy ball like Odom's teams? If so, no. I watched Odom's team play last night. No defense. No boxing out. No physical play. No intensity. No fun.
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Apparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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They are very similar play styles,. The Big East schools just have bigger and better athletes.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:02 pmApparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
Which is where we need to focus in recruiting. Big Physical Athletes that can play defense, shoot and pass.
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It's really hard to get 2 way players in lower levels. If you have to pick one, you go with offense and scheme defense.
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Our team had two way guys, they just weren’t consistent shooters. Which I think we can find.
We just need to find the best balance.
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Lol okay. I mean I guess if you squint and stretch things far enough, you can make a comparison to Creighton's style. Marquette runs extremely efficient, methodical offense with uber aggressive defense. Bodies on the floor at all times. I don't recall ever seeing that with an Odom-coached team.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:02 pmApparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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We can...BG, SUU, and Toledo it's harder.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:11 pmOur team had two way guys, they just weren’t consistent shooters. Which I think we can find.
We just need to find the best balance.
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shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:12 pmLol okay. I mean I guess if you squint and stretch things far enough, you can make a comparison to Creighton's style. Marquette runs extremely efficient, methodical offense with uber aggressive defense. Bodies on the floor at all times. I don't recall ever seeing that with an Odom-coached team.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:02 pmApparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
This is a first. Marquette and their offense described as methodical. They are 9th in tempo in the country. They push the ball up the floor, look for layups and 3s. If that doesn’t work they go to pick and roll.
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brian5562 wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:57 pmGood points.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:29 pmGotta love the behind the keyboard tough guy. Odom and his “pussy” style has as many tournament wins as Mr tough as naills Stew.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
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I havent watched either team this year. Do they play pussy ball like Odom's teams? If so, no. I watched Odom's team play last night. No defense. No boxing out. No physical play. No intensity. No fun.
I'm happy to step away from behind the keyboard and have this converation in person. LOL. Akin was fun to watch last year and Bean the years prior. I liked watching the Wesley, Jardine, Wilkinson, Bean, Butterfield, McEwen, Falslev, Templin, Brown, Martinez, Worster, Merrill, Uduje, etc. type players. I like the inside/outside play. I get tired of watching teams continually jack up 3s and not play D.
IMO The MWC was much more exciting to watch this year than in previous years with the exception of the NV team with the Martin Twins and Caroline and when we beat SDSU in the MWC Tourney. I think last year the MWC had one of it's weaker years.
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Take Tom Riddle of that Marquette team and they are completely different. Tom can run it but he can be methodical too. He’s fun to watch.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:24 pmshoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:12 pmLol okay. I mean I guess if you squint and stretch things far enough, you can make a comparison to Creighton's style. Marquette runs extremely efficient, methodical offense with uber aggressive defense. Bodies on the floor at all times. I don't recall ever seeing that with an Odom-coached team.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:02 pmApparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
This is a first. Marquette and their offense described as methodical. They are 9th in tempo in the country. They push the ball up the floor, look for layups and 3s. If that doesn’t work they go to pick and roll.
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I suppose "intentional" is probably a better verb than "methodical" in this case. I've just never seen an Odom team play with close to the level of both intensity and IQ as Marquette plays. It's incredible to me how much that team can move the ball and keep constant motion on offense while very rarely turning it over.WannabeAgAlum wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:33 pmTake Tom Riddle of that Marquette team and they are completely different. Tom can run it but he can be methodical too. He’s fun to watch.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:24 pmshoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:12 pmLol okay. I mean I guess if you squint and stretch things far enough, you can make a comparison to Creighton's style. Marquette runs extremely efficient, methodical offense with uber aggressive defense. Bodies on the floor at all times. I don't recall ever seeing that with an Odom-coached team.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:02 pmApparently you don’t watch basketball.shoresy wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:12 pmThe way Odom's teams play is very much NOT the same way Creighton and Marquette play.bpd wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 8:05 pmSo you don’t like the way that Creighton and Marquette play?Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:47 pmI'm not a fan of Odom (pussy) ball so if TK's teams play that way. No thanks!
This is a first. Marquette and their offense described as methodical. They are 9th in tempo in the country. They push the ball up the floor, look for layups and 3s. If that doesn’t work they go to pick and roll.
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Yikes!! Why would we even consider this guy based off of this alone. We would get absolutely destroyed in the MWC with this guy at the helm.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
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Re: Tod Kowalczyk - Announcement on Tuesday
Better not look at Simon's numbers at SUU then, because they weren't any better. My response would be: 1) Their offensive numbers were much better. 2) Yes, if you put a MAC team with MAC-level players in this year's MWC, they probably wouldn't do well. I like to believe both coaches' numbers would improve when they have MWC-level players on their roster. I haven't looked it up, but my guess is that advanced metrics didn't think highly of Sprinkle's Montana State teams or Odom's UMBC teams, because they were in lower-tier conferences and had lower-tier players.Elkaggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 9:57 pmYikes!! Why would we even consider this guy based off of this alone. We would get absolutely destroyed in the MWC with this guy at the helm.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 28th, 2024, 7:48 pmThey were 75 in offense and 255 in defense this year in kenpom. They were 354th in fg% on defense. 359th in 2 point defense. 339 in blocks, 278 in turnovers forced and 297 in points allowed. In short, they were one of the worst defenses in the country.Elkaggie wrote:Back to the topic. I am curious: The lack of conf tourney and NIT success is likely because his teams are really bad on Defense. Curious what his teams ranked in conference in this area. I have suspicion that they are near the bottom, which would be a HUGE red flag for me.
Anyone know how I find this data??
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What about Simon?