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Post by spud » November 24th, 2023, 7:47 pm

Having a good game against Boise State on espn3 right now.



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Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » November 24th, 2023, 7:59 pm

I miss Ashworth, but I REALLY miss Shulga. He would’ve been fantastic on this year’s team
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Post by Elkaggie » November 24th, 2023, 8:20 pm

And Boise wins.



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Post by SLB » November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm

Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.



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Post by Roy McAvoy » November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm

SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?



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Post by SLB » November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3



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Re: SHULGA

Post by FL350Aggie » November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am

SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
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Post by TrueAG » November 25th, 2023, 3:33 pm

Looking at the box score it looked like everyone partied the night before.



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Re: SHULGA

Post by Dkdavis » November 25th, 2023, 5:11 pm

FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
Hopefully NIL levels out to be what it was supposed to be intended for. Advertisement. Like Taco Bell ads or whatever. People investing in players is dumb..
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Re: SHULGA

Post by Bigger_Blue_Aggie » November 25th, 2023, 6:22 pm

Dkdavis wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 5:11 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
Hopefully NIL levels out to be what it was supposed to be intended for. Advertisement. Like Taco Bell ads or whatever. People investing in players is dumb..
Yeah, I highly doubt that will be the case. The rich will open up their pocketbooks and funnel money per the usual to tip the scales in the favor of the school they support. Pandora's box has been opened. It will be interesting to see what it will look like in a few years though.



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Re: SHULGA

Post by aggies22 » November 26th, 2023, 6:44 pm

Bigger_Blue_Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 6:22 pm
Dkdavis wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 5:11 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
Hopefully NIL levels out to be what it was supposed to be intended for. Advertisement. Like Taco Bell ads or whatever. People investing in players is dumb..
Yeah, I highly doubt that will be the case. The rich will open up their pocketbooks and funnel money per the usual to tip the scales in the favor of the school they support. Pandora's box has been opened. It will be interesting to see what it will look like in a few years though.
All NIL did was legalize the "bag man".
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Re: SHULGA

Post by utaggies » November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm

FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
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Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm

utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?



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Post by utaggies » November 27th, 2023, 12:00 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?
The athletic revenue that comes into a school is largely fungible. I have to assume, however, that NIL $ are independent of a school’s athletic budget. It’s unclear to me how Texas A&M will pay Fisher, but it’s certainly through the school’s big donors. Regardless, Texas A&M is clearly not going to allow budget considerations to get in the way of any athletic department moves it wants to make. I doubt there is a basketball NIL pot of $ and a football NIL pot of $. If Texas A&M would like to poach a USU player from either sport it will do so. Their competition is trying to do so will not be USU but rather the other large programs with donors that have deep pockets.



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Re: SHULGA

Post by Aglicious » November 27th, 2023, 4:46 pm

utaggies wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 12:00 pm
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?
The athletic revenue that comes into a school is largely fungible. I have to assume, however, that NIL $ are independent of a school’s athletic budget. It’s unclear to me how Texas A&M will pay Fisher, but it’s certainly through the school’s big donors. Regardless, Texas A&M is clearly not going to allow budget considerations to get in the way of any athletic department moves it wants to make. I doubt there is a basketball NIL pot of $ and a football NIL pot of $. If Texas A&M would like to poach a USU player from either sport it will do so. Their competition is trying to do so will not be USU but rather the other large programs with donors that have deep pockets.
NIL $ has nothing to do with a school or its budget. Collectives that are generating the NIL funds are not allowed to be run or governed by a University, they are run exclusively by boosters and are essentially set up like a business. Many of the larger ones set up to support SEC-type schools actually employ quite a few people in order to operate. Those board members that are involved in USU's collective(s) have stated that they are doing it on a volunteer basis and do not intend on being compensated. I'm not sure how long that model is sustainable but it is a nice gesture to begin with.

The coaches and schools are not in control of the NIL $ or the ones offering it to recruits. Recruits often now meet with a rep from a collective to see what opportunities he/she may have should they choose that school.



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Re: SHULGA

Post by Yossarian » November 27th, 2023, 4:59 pm

Aglicious wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 4:46 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 12:00 pm
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?
The athletic revenue that comes into a school is largely fungible. I have to assume, however, that NIL $ are independent of a school’s athletic budget. It’s unclear to me how Texas A&M will pay Fisher, but it’s certainly through the school’s big donors. Regardless, Texas A&M is clearly not going to allow budget considerations to get in the way of any athletic department moves it wants to make. I doubt there is a basketball NIL pot of $ and a football NIL pot of $. If Texas A&M would like to poach a USU player from either sport it will do so. Their competition is trying to do so will not be USU but rather the other large programs with donors that have deep pockets.
NIL $ has nothing to do with a school or its budget. Collectives that are generating the NIL funds are not allowed to be run or governed by a University, they are run exclusively by boosters and are essentially set up like a business. Many of the larger ones set up to support SEC-type schools actually employ quite a few people in order to operate. Those board members that are involved in USU's collective(s) have stated that they are doing it on a volunteer basis and do not intend on being compensated. I'm not sure how long that model is sustainable but it is a nice gesture to begin with.

The coaches and schools are not in control of the NIL $ or the ones offering it to recruits. Recruits often now meet with a rep from a collective to see what opportunities he/she may have should they choose that school.
I had a question about the NIL deals and national advertising campaigns.

Who sets these up? Are they negotiated by a player agent/rep? Does Dr. Pepper only enter into NIL deals with kids on SEC teams? That could affect recruiting - if a national brand approaches a kid and says they want to offer a deal, but will only negotiate if they pay for a high profile school that gets air time. Or does the school work out NIL deals on behalf of the kids?


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Re: SHULGA

Post by Aglicious » November 27th, 2023, 5:40 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 4:59 pm
Aglicious wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 4:46 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 12:00 pm
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?
The athletic revenue that comes into a school is largely fungible. I have to assume, however, that NIL $ are independent of a school’s athletic budget. It’s unclear to me how Texas A&M will pay Fisher, but it’s certainly through the school’s big donors. Regardless, Texas A&M is clearly not going to allow budget considerations to get in the way of any athletic department moves it wants to make. I doubt there is a basketball NIL pot of $ and a football NIL pot of $. If Texas A&M would like to poach a USU player from either sport it will do so. Their competition is trying to do so will not be USU but rather the other large programs with donors that have deep pockets.
NIL $ has nothing to do with a school or its budget. Collectives that are generating the NIL funds are not allowed to be run or governed by a University, they are run exclusively by boosters and are essentially set up like a business. Many of the larger ones set up to support SEC-type schools actually employ quite a few people in order to operate. Those board members that are involved in USU's collective(s) have stated that they are doing it on a volunteer basis and do not intend on being compensated. I'm not sure how long that model is sustainable but it is a nice gesture to begin with.

The coaches and schools are not in control of the NIL $ or the ones offering it to recruits. Recruits often now meet with a rep from a collective to see what opportunities he/she may have should they choose that school.
I had a question about the NIL deals and national advertising campaigns.

Who sets these up? Are they negotiated by a player agent/rep? Does Dr. Pepper only enter into NIL deals with kids on SEC teams? That could affect recruiting - if a national brand approaches a kid and says they want to offer a deal, but will only negotiate if they pay for a high profile school that gets air time. Or does the school work out NIL deals on behalf of the kids?
Yes, they are negotiated by a players "rep" or "agent". That person isn't required to be an attorney, it could just be a close friend or a hustler that the player trusts to act in his/her best interests. In any case, it can be a slippery slope for a student athlete to get involved with a national brand because all of a sudden they may have to be careful about a conflict with industry and territorial exclusivity, intellectual property ownership, and maybe even negotiate morality clauses that stipulate consequences should a student athlete engage in something that brings shame to a brand. I would imagine most national brands would encourage or maybe even pay for legal representation for a student athlete so that all parties are covered.

A student athlete may directly negotiate and agree to terms for use of their right of publicity with any party/company they wish. The company does not need to be a part of or a sponsor of an NIL collective.

Again, schools do not offer NIL deals to student athletes or act as a rep on behalf of them in negotiating NIL deals. It is entirely boosters and companies that are acting independently of schools to pay student athletes to rep their brand, product, or company in exchange for financial compensation and the unspoken (but commonly understood) agreement that they will play for the school they are affiliated with.

In your scenario with a national brand like Dr. Pepper, I would think that type of deal would come after a student athlete has already chosen a school or would come without the expectation or restriction to play for any particular school. Almost 100% of the time that type of deal would be where the athlete's name or popularity is sort of universal like a professional athlete.



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Post by cval » November 27th, 2023, 5:47 pm

I know that is how it’s supposed to work, but it takes a level of naivety to believe there is no collaboration.

The NCAA has proven that they don’t dare interfere or regulate it at all for fear of being sued.



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Post by Yossarian » November 27th, 2023, 5:47 pm

Aglicious wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 5:40 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 4:59 pm
Aglicious wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 4:46 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 12:00 pm
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 10:10 pm
utaggies wrote:
November 26th, 2023, 7:51 pm
FL350Aggie wrote:
November 25th, 2023, 11:28 am
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Exactly why I think NIL will eventually even out to some degree. I don’t know how, whoever is paying their NIL can feel like they are getting a solid ROI on their 250k with numbers like that. It’s only going to get worse when Big East play picks up.
I don’t think it will even out at all. A lot of teams feel like they are playing with Monopoly money. For not coaching Texas A&M will pay Jimbo Fisher $7.2 million for the next 8 years and $19.2 million upfront.
That’s $76 million that is a sunk cost independent of what they’ll need to cough up for their new coach. Those figures boggle my mind. Ashworth’s $250,000 is chump change.
We’re talking about one of the highest revenue-generating football teams in the NCAA every year. There’s not a single NCAA basketball team with that kind of money. Ultimately, the economics will work themselves out in a laissez faire capitalistic model like the NCAA. But I’m speaking outside my professional boundaries. Any economists on board who want to weigh in?
The athletic revenue that comes into a school is largely fungible. I have to assume, however, that NIL $ are independent of a school’s athletic budget. It’s unclear to me how Texas A&M will pay Fisher, but it’s certainly through the school’s big donors. Regardless, Texas A&M is clearly not going to allow budget considerations to get in the way of any athletic department moves it wants to make. I doubt there is a basketball NIL pot of $ and a football NIL pot of $. If Texas A&M would like to poach a USU player from either sport it will do so. Their competition is trying to do so will not be USU but rather the other large programs with donors that have deep pockets.
NIL $ has nothing to do with a school or its budget. Collectives that are generating the NIL funds are not allowed to be run or governed by a University, they are run exclusively by boosters and are essentially set up like a business. Many of the larger ones set up to support SEC-type schools actually employ quite a few people in order to operate. Those board members that are involved in USU's collective(s) have stated that they are doing it on a volunteer basis and do not intend on being compensated. I'm not sure how long that model is sustainable but it is a nice gesture to begin with.

The coaches and schools are not in control of the NIL $ or the ones offering it to recruits. Recruits often now meet with a rep from a collective to see what opportunities he/she may have should they choose that school.
I had a question about the NIL deals and national advertising campaigns.

Who sets these up? Are they negotiated by a player agent/rep? Does Dr. Pepper only enter into NIL deals with kids on SEC teams? That could affect recruiting - if a national brand approaches a kid and says they want to offer a deal, but will only negotiate if they pay for a high profile school that gets air time. Or does the school work out NIL deals on behalf of the kids?
Yes, they are negotiated by a players "rep" or "agent". That person isn't required to be an attorney, it could just be a close friend or a hustler that the player trusts to act in his/her best interests. In any case, it can be a slippery slope for a student athlete to get involved with a national brand because all of a sudden they may have to be careful about a conflict with industry and territorial exclusivity, intellectual property ownership, and maybe even negotiate morality clauses that stipulate consequences should a student athlete engage in something that brings shame to a brand. I would imagine most national brands would encourage or maybe even pay for legal representation for a student athlete so that all parties are covered.

A student athlete may directly negotiate and agree to terms for use of their right of publicity with any party/company they wish. The company does not need to be a part of or a sponsor of an NIL collective.

Again, schools do not offer NIL deals to student athletes or act as a rep on behalf of them in negotiating NIL deals. It is entirely boosters and companies that are acting independently of schools to pay student athletes to rep their brand, product, or company in exchange for financial compensation and the unspoken (but commonly understood) agreement that they will play for the school they are affiliated with.
Thank you for the explanation.

Wasn't the whole concept of the NIL spawned from players getting some compensation for video games using players' names and likenesses being used in the games and sold to the public and the only entity being paid was the NCAA? It has come a long way from there.


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Post by utaggies » November 27th, 2023, 8:20 pm

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I know that is how it’s supposed to work, but it takes a level of naivety to believe there is no collaboration.

The NCAA has proven that they don’t dare interfere or regulate it at all for fear of being sued.
I completely agree with you. Here is one of the elements of the NCAA collectives policy: “Under the interim policy, schools can inform student-athletes about potential NIL opportunities and can work with an NIL service provider to administer a “marketplace” that matches student-athletes with those opportunities. They cannot, however, engage in negotiations on behalf of an NIL entity or a student-athlete to secure specific NIL opportunities.”

Here’s my version,

Collective: We’ve got $3 million to spend this year on your basketball players coach. How can we help you?

Coach: I need a center (Player A) a shooting guard (Player B) and a SF off the bench (Player C).

Collective: we’ll begin negotiations with the reps of those three players. I think we can get all three for under $3 million. But if things get pricey do you have a few fall-back players we can negotiate with?

Coach: Yes. Here is a list of my Player D, Player E and Player F backups. Get ‘er done!

It has completely become a play for pay arrangement. I don’t think USU can compete in that environment — even within the MWC.
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Post by NVAggie » November 28th, 2023, 7:43 am

NIL is definitely not going as intended. I am against it completely and will never contribute to it. I'm fine with players making money on their name, image, and likeness. I am not fine with the pay-for-play arrangements.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » November 28th, 2023, 9:36 am

Not sure I would play Shulga over Brown, Uduje, or Falslev. Shulga was great last year, but he required a lot of pounding the dribble to get into his offensive game driving to the hoop. I prefer a team that moves it around more instead of pounding the rock.



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Post by AggieIceCream05 » November 28th, 2023, 10:07 am

Am I the only one sick and tired of hearing about Shulga and Ashworth!? Why not just have ONE thread about transfers and keep it at that?
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Post by WAAggie » November 28th, 2023, 10:58 am

Like BYU threads, best tp just not open them instead of reading them, then complaining.
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Post by spud » November 28th, 2023, 12:42 pm

To each his own. I definitely want to follow the Asworth and Shulga saga and see how it all plays out. If you do not, just skip over what does not spark an interest just like most of us do!
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Post by Roy McAvoy » December 1st, 2023, 7:14 pm

SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Ashworth just went 4-5 from the 3 in a big win over
Oklahoma st & Shulga tonight went 2-12 from the 3 in a home loss to Norfolk st. Ouch.



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Post by SLB » December 1st, 2023, 7:23 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 1st, 2023, 7:14 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:46 pm
SLB wrote:
November 24th, 2023, 8:41 pm
Somewhere in the Aggie fanbase, GD SLB was right about Shulga.
SLB, let’s say you got to pick between adding Ashworth or Shulga to this year’s Aggie team. Who are you taking?
Ashworth since the opener against Florida A&M
6.2 points per game
31.8% from 3
Ashworth just went 4-5 from the 3 in a big win over
Oklahoma st & Shulga tonight went 2-12 from the 3 in a home loss to Norfolk st. Ouch.
Ashworth had his 1st good game since the opener Florida A&M. Odom decided to have Shulga to take a lot of shots, and Shulga has done pretty well on the season.



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