Is there something wrong with the Hoops we practice on?

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » January 25th, 2023, 9:59 pm

Our team can’t shoot on the road at all. There’s gotta be something more than having the yips, right?

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » January 25th, 2023, 10:02 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote:Our team can’t shoot on the road at all. There’s gotta be something more than having the yips, right?

Everyone is playing to fast and forcing shots against a defense defending the shot. We need to drive on them or pass into Akin. Once they stop playing the 3, then we can start shooting it. We are just not adjusting to what the defense is doing.

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UStateTim · Post by **UStateTim** » January 25th, 2023, 10:54 pm

I’m more worried about our defense than offense. We can’t guard our own mothers

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » January 25th, 2023, 11:06 pm

Second half we shot well.

Overall the second half was encouraging to me. I am feeling hopeful we can get SDSU at home.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » January 25th, 2023, 11:10 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:06 pm
Second half we shot well.

Overall the second half was encouraging to me. I am feeling hopeful we can get SDSU at home.

It was encouraging, it was also so frustrating to see Seiko go off. Have to win the Fresno game on the road, which will be tough.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » January 25th, 2023, 11:16 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:10 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:06 pm
Second half we shot well.

Overall the second half was encouraging to me. I am feeling hopeful we can get SDSU at home.
It was encouraging, it was also so frustrating to see Seiko go off. Have to win the Fresno game on the road, which will be tough.

Seiko was the difference of us winning by double digits (let that soak in)

GUS · Post by **GUS** » January 25th, 2023, 11:18 pm

Defense was better in the second half too. Two shot clock violations.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » January 25th, 2023, 11:22 pm

Yeah, second half we belonged on the same floor as them, which hasn’t been the case at Viejas many times.

And how the hell do Seiko, Arop, and Mensah have any eligibility left? I feel like Mensah was there before we even had Queta? All those guys were on the team playing rotation minutes during Merrill’s Miracle, right? Are they all 7th year seniors or something?

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » January 25th, 2023, 11:23 pm

GUS wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:18 pm
Defense was better in the second half too. Two shot clock violations.

They scored 43 second half and 42 the first.

As Stew would say we “can’t guard a chair”

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » January 25th, 2023, 11:28 pm

Three double-digit losses to the three teams ahead of us in the standings. We are who we are. Hamoda and RJ are place holders so we can rest our starters. But that’s it. They bring nothing to the table. We effectively have a 6-man rotation.

BigSkyAG · Post by **BigSkyAG** » January 25th, 2023, 11:29 pm

In addition to the defensive concerns, does Bairstow have some aversion to boxing out? Its like i'm watching Joe ingles all over again as an opponent crashes the boards from the perimeter and there isn't even an attempt to look for a guy to put a body on. While we're invoking Stew.... "boxing out is unassociated with talent."

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » January 25th, 2023, 11:29 pm

utaggies wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:28 pm
Three double-digit losses to the three teams ahead of us in the standings. We are who we are. Hamoda and RJ are place holders so we can rest our starters. But that’s it. They bring nothing to the table. We effectively have a 6-man rotation.

We lose to all three at home and I’m there with you. If we can avoid losing games like @Fresno this weekend and win 2 of three at home against Boise, SDSU, and UNM, we’ll be in the tourney.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 26th, 2023, 1:37 am

utaggies wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:28 pm
Three double-digit losses to the three teams ahead of us in the standings. We are who we are. Hamoda and RJ are place holders so we can rest our starters. But that’s it. They bring nothing to the table. We effectively have a 6-man rotation.

Very true.

We get a rare brother on the team in Eytle-Rock and he runs a 6.5 40 and I don't think he can touch the backboard.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 26th, 2023, 1:41 am

If you would have told me that USU would hold Butler and Bradley to a combine 12 points, I works have guessed the Aggies would win by double digits. SDSU is just so much deeper and stronger.

stewusu98 · Post by **stewusu98** » January 26th, 2023, 6:11 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:23 pm

GUS wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:18 pm
Defense was better in the second half too. Two shot clock violations.
They scored 43 second half and 42 the first.

As Stew would say we “can’t guard a chair”

It did seem to me there was more intensity in the second half. Although when you start down 20.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » January 26th, 2023, 7:38 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 1:37 am

utaggies wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:28 pm
Three double-digit losses to the three teams ahead of us in the standings. We are who we are. Hamoda and RJ are place holders so we can rest our starters. But that’s it. They bring nothing to the table. We effectively have a 6-man rotation.
Very true.

We get a rare brother on the team in Eytle-Rock and he runs a 6.5 40 and I don't think he can touch the backboard.

Gidbob · Post by **Gidbob** » January 26th, 2023, 11:18 am

scotlandog wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 10:02 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote:Our team can’t shoot on the road at all. There’s gotta be something more than having the yips, right?
Everyone is playing to fast and forcing shots against a defense defending the shot. We need to drive on them or pass into Akin. Once they stop playing the 3, then we can start shooting it. We are just not adjusting to what the defense is doing.

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Some of it was defense, but even the open looks in the 1st half weren't going in

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » January 26th, 2023, 12:18 pm

looks like US shot about the same as SDS did.
US fgs 29-61 =47.5%
SDS fgs 28-58 =48.3%

3 pointers were different -but they only had one more make
US 11-33=33%
SDS 12-22=54.5%

that leaves 2 point shots at
US 18-28=64.3%
SDS 16-36=44.4%

FT's SDS outscored US 6-17 with twice the shots (10vs20)
I can't recall many missed fouls that would have given US more shots there

Defensively -
US 10 turnovers vs SDS 9
US 5 steals vs SDS 6
US 3 blocks vs SDS 1

To me, the game really came down to the "watch-man" being left so wide open so many times that he hit 6-6 in the first half from 3. He ended up 7-10, so 1-4 in 2nd half - also leaving the rest of the team at 5-12 from 3(41%). If Seiko went 41% on his 10 shots, that's 9 less points, (assuming defensive rebounds) and it's a one point final (and only down 3-6 at half)

MrBiggle · Post by **MrBiggle** » January 26th, 2023, 12:22 pm

GUS wrote: ↑
January 25th, 2023, 11:18 pm
Defense was better in the second half too. Two shot clock violations.

Was that almost intentional? I mean, with the type of defense they have, I can't imagine being all that disappointed running the clock out, it's still a plus IMO.

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » January 26th, 2023, 12:45 pm

Not going to watch again, but half of wrist watch shots were not "all alone gimmees". He hit shots he will never duplicate that performance again

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Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 26th, 2023, 12:52 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 12:18 pm
looks like US shot about the same as SDS did.
US fgs 29-61 =47.5%
SDS fgs 28-58 =48.3%

3 pointers were different -but they only had one more make
US 11-33=33%
SDS 12-22=54.5%

that leaves 2 point shots at
US 18-28=64.3%
SDS 16-36=44.4%

FT's SDS outscored US 6-17 with twice the shots (10vs20)
I can't recall many missed fouls that would have given US more shots there

Defensively -
US 10 turnovers vs SDS 9
US 5 steals vs SDS 6
US 3 blocks vs SDS 1

To me, the game really came down to the "watch-man" being left so wide open so many times that he hit 6-6 in the first half from 3. He ended up 7-10, so 1-4 in 2nd half - also leaving the rest of the team at 5-12 from 3(41%). If Seiko went 41% on his 10 shots, that's 9 less points, (assuming defensive rebounds) and it's a one point final (and only down 3-6 at half)

This is a good breakdown. I would have guessed SDSU had way more shots on goal than USU did because it seemed they got at least one offensive rebound after every miss.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 26th, 2023, 12:53 pm

WAAggie wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Not going to watch again, but half of wrist watch shots were not "all alone gimmees". He hit shots he will never duplicate that performance again

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After 8 years of college basketball, he has improved his shot.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » January 26th, 2023, 12:59 pm

If someone had told me that we would hold Butler and Bradley to a combined 12 points, I would have been sure we would have won handily.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » January 26th, 2023, 1:22 pm

SDSU plays aggressive, physical defense. Yet, in the second half, they were called for only two fouls in the first eighteen minutes with the third foul called at 2:05 remaining.

That is a very disciplined team to be that aggressive and almost never commit a foul. Props to their coaching staff.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » January 26th, 2023, 2:26 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 1:22 pm
SDSU plays aggressive, physical defense. Yet, in the second half, they were called for only two fouls in the first eighteen minutes with the third foul called at 2:05 remaining.

That is a very disciplined team to be that aggressive and almost never commit a foul. Props to their coaching staff.

The refs were very disciplined too.

The difference in that game definitely came down to Seiko and free throws. Seiko averaged less that 7 points per game going into that game and then he drops 25 on us. :wtf:

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » January 26th, 2023, 2:28 pm

At this point in the season, we have had several background perimeter players have career days on our team. I think it is something with this year's team and their defense.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » January 26th, 2023, 2:31 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 2:28 pm
At this point in the season, we have had several background perimeter players have career days on our team. I think it is something with this year's team and their defense.

Defense is definitely an issue. We could do a helluva lot better on the defensive rebounds too.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 26th, 2023, 2:33 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 2:26 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
January 26th, 2023, 1:22 pm
SDSU plays aggressive, physical defense. Yet, in the second half, they were called for only two fouls in the first eighteen minutes with the third foul called at 2:05 remaining.

That is a very disciplined team to be that aggressive and almost never commit a foul. Props to their coaching staff.
The refs were very disciplined too. The difference in that game definitely came down to Seiko and free throws. Seiko averaged less that 7 points per game going into that game and then he drops 25 on us.

It seems the Aggies had a game plan to make someone other than Bradley and Butler beat them. And SDSU obliged with Seiko having a career night.

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » January 26th, 2023, 5:50 pm

How come our excuse a lot of times seems to be that someone had a career night? Our defense is so bad that anyone can have a career night against us.

tipitup · Post by **tipitup** » January 27th, 2023, 9:27 am

on the flip side, some of our guys have had career nights against the teams we play. this is stuff that happens. the common factor is our defense. I feel like we are switching sometimes and sometimes not, and because of this our guys loose their assignments and we get lost at the end of the shot clock, and an open shot happens.

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