Usu #46 at 5-0 on Kenpom

AKAggie03 · Post by **AKAggie03** » November 25th, 2022, 8:05 am

https://kenpom.com/

USU 46
Byu 67 and dropping
Utah 70 and dropping
UVU 141
Utah tech 253
Weber 260

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » November 25th, 2022, 8:56 am

We are well on our way to being the worst 7 - 0 team in the country.

tetonaggie · Post by **tetonaggie** » November 25th, 2022, 9:06 am

Blitz79 wrote:We are well on our way to being the worst 7 - 0 team in the country.

Our schedule has been light so far, but what have you seen that indicates we wouldn’t be able to hang with most of the other unbeaten teams?

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SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » November 25th, 2022, 9:36 am

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
November 25th, 2022, 8:56 am
We are well on our way to being the worst 7 - 0 team in the country.

For what it's worth, there are 16 undefeated teams lower than USU on KenPom. Interestingly, four of them are on the future Aggies schedule,: USF, Seattle, UNM and UNLV.

I know that it is in vogue to mock this year's schedule, but KenPom has the Aggies at #157 in SoS - not Murderer's Row, but hardly terrible. IT's the 5th toughest MWC schedule to date.

Noted teams in the 10 weakest schedules (so far) are Iowa, AFA, Missouri, Iowa State, and TCU. Of interest is that TCU's toughest opponent so far is #284 (USU's weakest is #145). And yet TCU is not undefeated.

USU has had a season to be very satisfied with so far.

AKAggie03 · Post by **AKAggie03** » November 25th, 2022, 10:21 am

Also hurts we dont play utah/byu anymore

Cuchelain · Post by **Cuchelain** » November 25th, 2022, 7:05 pm

I think the post from Blitz is a tongue in cheek reminder of the debate that we had on this board about a decade ago as to whether we were the worst undefeated (and later the worst one loss team) in the nation. I love being in that conversation and in three weeks or so I would be absolutely delighted to be the worst undefeated team in the nation if we can pull it off that long.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » November 25th, 2022, 8:54 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
November 25th, 2022, 8:56 am
We are well on our way to being the worst 7 - 0 team in the country.

“I just can’t help the feeling I’m living a life of illusion.”

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » November 25th, 2022, 10:21 pm

Cuchelain wrote:I think the post from Blitz is a tongue in cheek reminder of the debate that we had on this board about a decade ago as to whether we were the worst undefeated (and later the worst one loss team) in the nation. I love being in that conversation and in three weeks or so I would be absolutely delighted to be the worst undefeated team in the nation if we can pull it off that long.

Yeah, just continuing the old joke. Can’t remember who said it and don’t care to go look but someone was looking for a glass half empty even when we hadn’t lost a game and compared us to other undefeated teams. Some people are never happy.

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Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » November 27th, 2022, 8:51 pm

Cuchelain wrote: ↑
November 25th, 2022, 7:05 pm
I think the post from Blitz is a tongue in cheek reminder of the debate that we had on this board about a decade ago as to whether we were the worst undefeated (and later the worst one loss team) in the nation. I love being in that conversation and in three weeks or so I would be absolutely delighted to be the worst undefeated team in the nation if we can pull it off that long.

Yeah I think it was the 2012-13 season. If I remember correctly the question was whether or not we were the worst 7-1 team in the country.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » November 27th, 2022, 10:28 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
November 27th, 2022, 8:51 pm

Cuchelain wrote: ↑
November 25th, 2022, 7:05 pm
I think the post from Blitz is a tongue in cheek reminder of the debate that we had on this board about a decade ago as to whether we were the worst undefeated (and later the worst one loss team) in the nation. I love being in that conversation and in three weeks or so I would be absolutely delighted to be the worst undefeated team in the nation if we can pull it off that long.
Yeah I think it was the 2012-13 season. If I remember correctly the question was whether or not we were the worst 7-1 team in the country.

That is the correct season. We were 14-1, and CERTAINLY the worst 1 loss team in the country at that time. We even proved it by losing to UT-Arlington THRICE that season (a statistical impossibility, as has also been discussed on this board.)

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 28th, 2022, 7:58 am

I heard a bit of the Ken Pom interview on the radio with Scotty G. He mentioned that we were the best of the Utah teams. He said our numbers look pretty good.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » November 28th, 2022, 9:57 am

I don't want to be a downer here, but I'm not that upset we're not playing BYU this year. Even if we're the better team, history has shown we'd find a way to lose that game.

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » November 28th, 2022, 10:23 am

NVAggie wrote:I heard a bit of the Ken Pom interview on the radio with Scotty G. He mentioned that we were the best of the Utah teams. He said our numbers look pretty good.

The fact that byu beat us one season as their only win just proves we are always their super bowl right

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NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 28th, 2022, 11:03 am

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
November 28th, 2022, 10:23 am

NVAggie wrote:I heard a bit of the Ken Pom interview on the radio with Scotty G. He mentioned that we were the best of the Utah teams. He said our numbers look pretty good.
The fact that byu beat us one season as their only win just proves we are always their super bowl right

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or that we let them get into our head.

sam tingey · Post by **sam tingey** » November 28th, 2022, 4:07 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
November 28th, 2022, 11:03 am

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
November 28th, 2022, 10:23 am

NVAggie wrote:I heard a bit of the Ken Pom interview on the radio with Scotty G. He mentioned that we were the best of the Utah teams. He said our numbers look pretty good.
The fact that byu beat us one season as their only win just proves we are always their super bowl right

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or that we let them get into our head.

It was more fun when we were in Jimmer's head.

dogie · Post by **dogie** » November 28th, 2022, 7:08 pm

AKAggie03 wrote: ↑
November 25th, 2022, 8:05 am
https://kenpom.com/

USU 46
Byu 67 and dropping
Utah 70 and dropping
UVU 141
Utah tech 253
Weber 260

Every Big 12 team is in the top 50.

SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » November 28th, 2022, 9:08 pm

I don't know the KenPom algorithm or how he collects his innumerable amounts of data. But it is intriguing to realize that his ratings have no such thing as an eye test.
Attending the Oral Roberts game in Logan had no impact on his rating of the team.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 29th, 2022, 7:45 am

The eye test only works if you have a properly calibrated eye. To calibrate one's eye, they must stare into Jay Bilas's eyes for 30 minutes straight. It is a very difficult calibration.

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