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Re: Recruiting big board

Post by aggies22 » May 12th, 2022, 11:08 am

utaggies wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:00 am
aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 9:21 am
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May 12th, 2022, 7:02 am
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May 11th, 2022, 8:49 pm
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May 11th, 2022, 5:15 pm
utaggies wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:09 pm
At 6’9” and 225# Akin was the 3rd leading scorer and leading rebounder on the 9th place WAC team, California Baptist. He hit 69% on his FTs and 54% from the field. He was the team’s leading shot blocker by far.
Thank you for the summary

Honestly I feel like he will be a better matchup for a big like Ike at Wyoming than anything else we have on our roster, which really hurt us this past year.

So I’m encouraged by that.
If he is the add, I like Akin. He fits the role of a guy that isn’t going to be thrown back five feet when backed down by Ike. I honestly don’t have issues with the quality of any of the guys added. But like others have said, I think we’ll be treading water at best.

And yes, the coaching staff has far more confidence in our guards improving than I do. I think Jones, Ashworth, and Eytle-Rock are basically fully baked at this point. There may be some incremental improvement, but we know what we have there. All nice players (and likeable guys), but not one of them is particularly clutch or dynamic.
The incremental improvements I hope to see from those three are:

Jones - drive and shoot more instead of always picking up the dribble and looking to pass
Ashworth - keep improving across the board
Eytle-Rock - coming into form earlier in the season

Jones shooting more will help keep the defense honest and could also open up more cutting opportunities for other players. The entire team did better overall when Jones shot more. If he can average 8-10 ppg while at least maintaining the assists I think the season could be fairly successful.

Watching last season it kind of felt like Ashworth regressed some, similar to a sophomore slump. But looking at his stats, he definitely took a step forward and he needs to continue that progress this next season. Would love to see him bump up his scoring to 10-12 ppg while still being that pesky guy on defense that pisses off the other team and their fans.

Eytle-Rock seemed to come on better later in the season. Hopefully he comes around into form closer to the start of conference play.
If we got 10-12 ppg from BOTH Jones AND Ashworth, I guarantee we will be more than alright next year.
So that means 7 to 9 ppg more from them. Now we only need to see if we can make up the 31 ppg and 16.5 rpg that Bean and Horvath gave us and we should be just fine.
IF Dan Akin and Taylor Funk merely duplicated what they did last year that would get us 14.7 boards and 24 points per game. I would expect Isaac Johnson getting an opportunity for significant minutes and an uptick in production from Sean Bairstow to be able to make up the remaining 2 rebounds and 7 points. Suddenly my comment doesn't sound so stupid now does it?
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Re: Recruiting big board

Post by Real Life Aggie » May 12th, 2022, 11:55 am

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May 12th, 2022, 10:51 am
Some would say that the MWC was really great last year and that contributed to our poor conference showing. But I think the post-season showed that the MWC was over-rated.

We weren't very good.
Let's not overlook that close matchups can go either way, esp. when playing another very talented team. Also, choking happens. Don't need to disqualify very good seasons/players/conference just because, collectively, we couldn't finish.
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Re: Recruiting big board

Post by Stockypoo2212 » May 12th, 2022, 2:26 pm

aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:08 am
utaggies wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:00 am
aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 9:21 am
bwcrc wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 7:02 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 8:49 pm
slcagg wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:15 pm
utaggies wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:09 pm
At 6’9” and 225# Akin was the 3rd leading scorer and leading rebounder on the 9th place WAC team, California Baptist. He hit 69% on his FTs and 54% from the field. He was the team’s leading shot blocker by far.
Thank you for the summary

Honestly I feel like he will be a better matchup for a big like Ike at Wyoming than anything else we have on our roster, which really hurt us this past year.

So I’m encouraged by that.
If he is the add, I like Akin. He fits the role of a guy that isn’t going to be thrown back five feet when backed down by Ike. I honestly don’t have issues with the quality of any of the guys added. But like others have said, I think we’ll be treading water at best.

And yes, the coaching staff has far more confidence in our guards improving than I do. I think Jones, Ashworth, and Eytle-Rock are basically fully baked at this point. There may be some incremental improvement, but we know what we have there. All nice players (and likeable guys), but not one of them is particularly clutch or dynamic.
The incremental improvements I hope to see from those three are:

Jones - drive and shoot more instead of always picking up the dribble and looking to pass
Ashworth - keep improving across the board
Eytle-Rock - coming into form earlier in the season

Jones shooting more will help keep the defense honest and could also open up more cutting opportunities for other players. The entire team did better overall when Jones shot more. If he can average 8-10 ppg while at least maintaining the assists I think the season could be fairly successful.

Watching last season it kind of felt like Ashworth regressed some, similar to a sophomore slump. But looking at his stats, he definitely took a step forward and he needs to continue that progress this next season. Would love to see him bump up his scoring to 10-12 ppg while still being that pesky guy on defense that pisses off the other team and their fans.

Eytle-Rock seemed to come on better later in the season. Hopefully he comes around into form closer to the start of conference play.
If we got 10-12 ppg from BOTH Jones AND Ashworth, I guarantee we will be more than alright next year.
So that means 7 to 9 ppg more from them. Now we only need to see if we can make up the 31 ppg and 16.5 rpg that Bean and Horvath gave us and we should be just fine.
IF Dan Akin and Taylor Funk merely duplicated what they did last year that would get us 14.7 boards and 24 points per game. I would expect Isaac Johnson getting an opportunity for significant minutes and an uptick in production from Sean Bairstow to be able to make up the remaining 2 rebounds and 7 points. Suddenly my comment doesn't sound so stupid now does it?
I agree. We will have other guys step up. I like the additions we put together and I'm excited to see the Aggies win a lot next year
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Recruiting big board

Post by scotlandog » May 12th, 2022, 2:34 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote:
brownjeans wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 10:51 am
Some would say that the MWC was really great last year and that contributed to our poor conference showing. But I think the post-season showed that the MWC was over-rated.

We weren't very good.
Let's not overlook that close matchups can go either way, esp. when playing another very talented team. Also, choking happens. Don't need to disqualify very good seasons/players/conference just because, collectively, we couldn't finish.
In my opinion, I thought the MWC had a little suspect officiating last season that hurt our teams in the post-season by conditioning them to play a certain way that wouldn’t be allowed in the big dance. I thought Maldonado, Ike and Roddy especially were allowed to play so physically that they became reliant on it. Towards the end of the season they, those players utilization rates were ridiculously high. When they got fouls called or tried to adjust their play to match the way the ncaa was calling games, the teams fell apart and lost their game plans. I think you could throw Boises Armus in there as well but less significant. I know the MWC doesn’t have their own refs and don’t control the refs but hopefully they realize what happened and can work with the refs to not allow that to happen again.

We share refs with the PAC-12 and others and can’t say for sure but I’m curious if there was similar things that happened in their league games. They did have UCLA and Arizona win some games but both had closer games than they should have and were both upset by lower seeds. Arizona especially was a disappointment. Just food for thought..


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Re: Recruiting big board

Post by utaggies » May 12th, 2022, 3:40 pm

aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:08 am
utaggies wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:00 am
aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 9:21 am
bwcrc wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 7:02 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 8:49 pm
slcagg wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:15 pm
utaggies wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:09 pm
At 6’9” and 225# Akin was the 3rd leading scorer and leading rebounder on the 9th place WAC team, California Baptist. He hit 69% on his FTs and 54% from the field. He was the team’s leading shot blocker by far.
Thank you for the summary

Honestly I feel like he will be a better matchup for a big like Ike at Wyoming than anything else we have on our roster, which really hurt us this past year.

So I’m encouraged by that.
If he is the add, I like Akin. He fits the role of a guy that isn’t going to be thrown back five feet when backed down by Ike. I honestly don’t have issues with the quality of any of the guys added. But like others have said, I think we’ll be treading water at best.

And yes, the coaching staff has far more confidence in our guards improving than I do. I think Jones, Ashworth, and Eytle-Rock are basically fully baked at this point. There may be some incremental improvement, but we know what we have there. All nice players (and likeable guys), but not one of them is particularly clutch or dynamic.
The incremental improvements I hope to see from those three are:

Jones - drive and shoot more instead of always picking up the dribble and looking to pass
Ashworth - keep improving across the board
Eytle-Rock - coming into form earlier in the season

Jones shooting more will help keep the defense honest and could also open up more cutting opportunities for other players. The entire team did better overall when Jones shot more. If he can average 8-10 ppg while at least maintaining the assists I think the season could be fairly successful.

Watching last season it kind of felt like Ashworth regressed some, similar to a sophomore slump. But looking at his stats, he definitely took a step forward and he needs to continue that progress this next season. Would love to see him bump up his scoring to 10-12 ppg while still being that pesky guy on defense that pisses off the other team and their fans.

Eytle-Rock seemed to come on better later in the season. Hopefully he comes around into form closer to the start of conference play.
If we got 10-12 ppg from BOTH Jones AND Ashworth, I guarantee we will be more than alright next year.
So that means 7 to 9 ppg more from them. Now we only need to see if we can make up the 31 ppg and 16.5 rpg that Bean and Horvath gave us and we should be just fine.
IF Dan Akin and Taylor Funk merely duplicated what they did last year that would get us 14.7 boards and 24 points per game. I would expect Isaac Johnson getting an opportunity for significant minutes and an uptick in production from Sean Bairstow to be able to make up the remaining 2 rebounds and 7 points. Suddenly my comment doesn't sound so stupid now does it?
Your comment never sounded stupid. But let’s be realistic about Akin and Funk. The former played on a lower-tier WAC team. It is not realistic to believe that his stats with California Baptist are going to be replicated in the MWC. This past season the numbers for ER were considerably down from those he garnered while at UMBC. Horvath’s scoring was essentially the same but his other numbers at UMBC were all better than those he put up at USU. As to Funk, his numbers may be more transferrable but we need to remember that he played on a very bad St. Joe’s team. But the Atlantic 10 is a conference ranked very closely to the MWC.

We shall see what happens. I think our front-line by committee can come close to giving us the production we had last season. But it remains to be seen if our guards can step up to the level you identified. If they do I believe we’ll improve upon our 7th place finish but even with that happening I seriously doubt we’ll contend for the conference crown with the team that has thus far been put together.
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Re: Recruiting big board

Post by FeartheFro » May 12th, 2022, 3:59 pm

utaggies wrote:
aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:08 am
utaggies wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:00 am
aggies22 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 9:21 am
bwcrc wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 7:02 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 8:49 pm
slcagg wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:15 pm
utaggies wrote:
May 11th, 2022, 5:09 pm
At 6’9” and 225# Akin was the 3rd leading scorer and leading rebounder on the 9th place WAC team, California Baptist. He hit 69% on his FTs and 54% from the field. He was the team’s leading shot blocker by far.
Thank you for the summary

Honestly I feel like he will be a better matchup for a big like Ike at Wyoming than anything else we have on our roster, which really hurt us this past year.

So I’m encouraged by that.
If he is the add, I like Akin. He fits the role of a guy that isn’t going to be thrown back five feet when backed down by Ike. I honestly don’t have issues with the quality of any of the guys added. But like others have said, I think we’ll be treading water at best.

And yes, the coaching staff has far more confidence in our guards improving than I do. I think Jones, Ashworth, and Eytle-Rock are basically fully baked at this point. There may be some incremental improvement, but we know what we have there. All nice players (and likeable guys), but not one of them is particularly clutch or dynamic.
The incremental improvements I hope to see from those three are:

Jones - drive and shoot more instead of always picking up the dribble and looking to pass
Ashworth - keep improving across the board
Eytle-Rock - coming into form earlier in the season

Jones shooting more will help keep the defense honest and could also open up more cutting opportunities for other players. The entire team did better overall when Jones shot more. If he can average 8-10 ppg while at least maintaining the assists I think the season could be fairly successful.

Watching last season it kind of felt like Ashworth regressed some, similar to a sophomore slump. But looking at his stats, he definitely took a step forward and he needs to continue that progress this next season. Would love to see him bump up his scoring to 10-12 ppg while still being that pesky guy on defense that pisses off the other team and their fans.

Eytle-Rock seemed to come on better later in the season. Hopefully he comes around into form closer to the start of conference play.
If we got 10-12 ppg from BOTH Jones AND Ashworth, I guarantee we will be more than alright next year.
So that means 7 to 9 ppg more from them. Now we only need to see if we can make up the 31 ppg and 16.5 rpg that Bean and Horvath gave us and we should be just fine.
IF Dan Akin and Taylor Funk merely duplicated what they did last year that would get us 14.7 boards and 24 points per game. I would expect Isaac Johnson getting an opportunity for significant minutes and an uptick in production from Sean Bairstow to be able to make up the remaining 2 rebounds and 7 points. Suddenly my comment doesn't sound so stupid now does it?
Your comment never sounded stupid. But let’s be realistic about Akin and Funk. The former played on a lower-tier WAC team. It is not realistic to believe that his stats with California Baptist are going to be replicated in the MWC. This past season the numbers for ER were considerably down from those he garnered while at UMBC. Horvath’s scoring was essentially the same but his other numbers at UMBC were all better than those he put up at USU. As to Funk, his numbers may be more transferrable but we need to remember that he played on a very bad St. Joe’s team. But the Atlantic 10 is a conference ranked very closely to the MWC.

We shall see what happens. I think our front-line by committee can come close to giving us the production we had last season. But it remains to be seen if our guards can step up to the level you identified. If they do I believe we’ll improve upon our 7th place finish but even with that happening I seriously doubt we’ll contend for the conference crown with the team that has thus far been put together.
I agree with what you are saying in regards to scoring. I don’t think it applies as much to rebounding. So much of rebounding is tenacity and I think that’s a skill that can translate to a tougher division of basketball.


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Post by Bluened » May 12th, 2022, 5:18 pm

I like some of our pieces although it would be nice to have a star type player. Let’s hope it can be a situation where the whole is greater that the sum of the parts.


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Post by TrueAG » May 12th, 2022, 7:57 pm

If we shoot a decent 3% during our rough stretch we end up top part of the conference and a bubble team. I think we will be a better shooting and defensive team.
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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » May 28th, 2022, 2:31 pm

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May 12th, 2022, 7:57 pm
If we shoot a decent 3% during our rough stretch we end up top part of the conference and a bubble team. I think we will be a better shooting and defensive team.
Yeah it really is too bad how bad she shot from 3 during the 5 game losing streak early in conference play. Even a poor 3pt% instead of an atrocious one and we win at least a few of those games and our season is viewed completely different.
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