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NIT - Host Game?

Post by Lonely Cowboy » March 10th, 2022, 9:40 pm

Do we host a home game? Potentially win a NIT tournament?
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Post by coolag » March 10th, 2022, 9:41 pm

Yeah...................no.



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Post by ineptimusprime » March 10th, 2022, 9:42 pm

Unless a lot of teams turn it down, I don’t think our NET is high enough for the NIT.

You absolutely accept if offered, but I am honestly far more interested in getting the roster purge and recruiting going :noidea:
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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by ThunderAggie » March 10th, 2022, 9:43 pm

We are the 7 seed in the MW. Unless we get 4 teams in the tourney and are picked over Fresno or UNLV we aren’t going let alone hosting.



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 10th, 2022, 9:43 pm

How many teams are in the NIT? Our net is around 60 and the top 48 or so will make the NCAAT.


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Post by ThunderAggie » March 10th, 2022, 9:44 pm

We would be a dangerous 7 or 8 seed though in the NIT! What if we got BYU haha



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by NVAggie » March 10th, 2022, 9:48 pm

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Post by OKAggie » March 10th, 2022, 9:48 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 9:43 pm
How many teams are in the NIT? Our net is around 60 and the top 48 or so will make the NCAAT.
32. But they take every conference champ that doesn’t make the NCAA’s, so typically that takes up 8-12 slots
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Post by Aggie84025 » March 10th, 2022, 9:51 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:
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How many teams are in the NIT? Our net is around 60 and the top 48 or so will make the NCAAT.
Their are 32 teams. Any conference tournament where the #1 seed lost and does not get invited to the NCAA tourney automatically gets invited to the NIT. Not sure how many of those there are so far. After that they just select teams that think are deserving. A majority of the teams will come from the major conferences.
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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 10th, 2022, 9:55 pm

People really undervalue who gets into the nit. The sdsu team we beat in 2019 didnt get an invite. Look at who has gone to the nit from the MW recently, all been top of the league teams. They arent taking a 7th place 8-10 MW team. Since we dont like the cbi/cit, our season is over. It is fine, odom needs to put all his energy into recruiting. We need a major talent upgrade



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by Aggie84025 » March 10th, 2022, 9:59 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
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People really undervalue who gets into the nit. The sdsu team we beat in 2019 didnt get an invite. Look at who has gone to the nit from the MW recently, all been top of the league teams. They arent taking a 7th place 8-10 MW team. Since we dont like the cbi/cit, our season is over. It is fine, odom needs to put all his energy into recruiting. We need a major talent upgrade
For sure, the NIT is no slouch of a tournament.



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:06 pm

Here's the thing, though, if they're not taking teams 50-65 in the NET rankings, who are they taking that is better, but didn't make the NCAA Tournament? Sure there may be a handful of lower conference winners that get upset in the tourney, but not enough to fill up even half of the 32 spots.

The numbers don't add up to me.
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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by NVAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:07 pm

It is more than just the net ranking.



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:08 pm

NVAggie wrote:
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It is more than just the net ranking.
Meaning, from a P5 conference? If so, then yeah, I agree that is probably more important to the NIT selection committee than NET.


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Post by GameFAQSAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:09 pm

Even if enough teams turn down the NIT for us to get in, there WONT be enough teams turning it down for us to get a top four seed to host.

Odom talked about seeing where the chips fall for postseason on the postgame show, so that is pointing towards us accepting a CBI or CIT invite.
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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by ThunderAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:10 pm

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

These guys have us in the NIT. This was before the game we just played. Surprising we are the only MW team with a NIT invite according to this.
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Post by ineptimusprime » March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm

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March 10th, 2022, 9:55 pm
People really undervalue who gets into the nit. The sdsu team we beat in 2019 didnt get an invite. Look at who has gone to the nit from the MW recently, all been top of the league teams. They arent taking a 7th place 8-10 MW team. Since we dont like the cbi/cit, our season is over. It is fine, odom needs to put all his energy into recruiting. We need a major talent upgrade
The SDSU team we beat in 2019 was 116 in NET. Not saying we get in, but materially different.

The metrics like us far more than I like us.
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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by ThunderAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:09 pm
Even if enough teams turn down the NIT for us to get in, there WONT be enough teams turning it down for us to get a top four seed to host.

Odom talked about seeing where the chips fall for postseason on the postgame show, so that is pointing towards us accepting a CBI or CIT invite.
Is it always the top seed that hosts? Like if we upset a higher seed first round and so did our opponent so we are a higher seed. Do we host in that case? Or is it only first round games played at home courts.



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by ProvoAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:15 pm

ThunderAggie wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:09 pm
Even if enough teams turn down the NIT for us to get in, there WONT be enough teams turning it down for us to get a top four seed to host.

Odom talked about seeing where the chips fall for postseason on the postgame show, so that is pointing towards us accepting a CBI or CIT invite.
Is it always the top seed that hosts? Like if we upset a higher seed first round and so did our opponent so we are a higher seed. Do we host in that case? Or is it only first round games played at home courts.
Higher seed hosts unless there is a venue conflict.

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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by GameFAQSAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:24 pm

ThunderAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:09 pm
Even if enough teams turn down the NIT for us to get in, there WONT be enough teams turning it down for us to get a top four seed to host.

Odom talked about seeing where the chips fall for postseason on the postgame show, so that is pointing towards us accepting a CBI or CIT invite.
Is it always the top seed that hosts? Like if we upset a higher seed first round and so did our opponent so we are a higher seed. Do we host in that case? Or is it only first round games played at home courts.
Yes. It is a rule the higher seed hosts. The only exception is if an arena is unavailable cause of a pre-scheduled event, then they would let the lower seed host. Like there was one year Kentucky was the 1 seed, but cause of their arena being booked for the NCAA's, the game was moved to 8 seed Robert Morris's court.

I did notice that Dayton is a projected NIT one seed, so with their gym booked for the first four, they could be forced to travel to the 8 seed's place. The Marriott Center being booked for the women's NCAA's could force BYU on the road to the 7 or 8 seed's place. As well as other gyms that are booked for pre-scheduled events.



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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by ThunderAggie » March 10th, 2022, 10:29 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:24 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:09 pm
Even if enough teams turn down the NIT for us to get in, there WONT be enough teams turning it down for us to get a top four seed to host.

Odom talked about seeing where the chips fall for postseason on the postgame show, so that is pointing towards us accepting a CBI or CIT invite.
Is it always the top seed that hosts? Like if we upset a higher seed first round and so did our opponent so we are a higher seed. Do we host in that case? Or is it only first round games played at home courts.
Yes. It is a rule the higher seed hosts. The only exception is if an arena is unavailable cause of a pre-scheduled event, then they would let the lower seed host. Like there was one year Kentucky was the 1 seed, but cause of their arena being booked for the NCAA's, the game was moved to 8 seed Robert Morris's court.

I did notice that Dayton is a projected NIT one seed, so with their gym booked for the first four, they could be forced to travel to the 8 seed's place. The Marriott Center being booked for the women's NCAA's could force BYU on the road to the 7 or 8 seed's place. As well as other gyms that are booked for pre-scheduled events.
Wouldn’t it be the greatest if we played BYU in the spectrum. 1 vs 8 seed



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 10th, 2022, 10:35 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm
:scotsman:
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March 10th, 2022, 9:55 pm
People really undervalue who gets into the nit. The sdsu team we beat in 2019 didnt get an invite. Look at who has gone to the nit from the MW recently, all been top of the league teams. They arent taking a 7th place 8-10 MW team. Since we dont like the cbi/cit, our season is over. It is fine, odom needs to put all his energy into recruiting. We need a major talent upgrade
The SDSU team we beat in 2019 was 116 in NET. Not saying we get in, but materially different.

The metrics like us far more than I like us.
Right, but they also were a top 4 MW team(plus made the championship) that had 21 wins. Hey if we get in great, but we definitely would be bucking a decade long trend of only seeing the top of the conference get invited. We'll see if net is as valuable to the nit selection committee as some think it is. Hope you guys are right even though it will likely mean another last minute choke



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Post by gomretat » March 11th, 2022, 7:50 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:35 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 10:11 pm
:scotsman:
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 9:55 pm
People really undervalue who gets into the nit. The sdsu team we beat in 2019 didnt get an invite. Look at who has gone to the nit from the MW recently, all been top of the league teams. They arent taking a 7th place 8-10 MW team. Since we dont like the cbi/cit, our season is over. It is fine, odom needs to put all his energy into recruiting. We need a major talent upgrade
The SDSU team we beat in 2019 was 116 in NET. Not saying we get in, but materially different.

The metrics like us far more than I like us.
Right, but they also were a top 4 MW team(plus made the championship) that had 21 wins. Hey if we get in great, but we definitely would be bucking a decade long trend of only seeing the top of the conference get invited. We'll see if net is as valuable to the nit selection committee as some think it is. Hope you guys are right even though it will likely mean another last minute choke
Agreed. I would be surprised if we are on the NIT radar.



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Post by ineptimusprime » March 11th, 2022, 8:02 am

FWIW, the loss yesterday did not impact our NET. We are 60.

We could sneak in?



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Post by ViAggie » March 11th, 2022, 9:30 am

maybe if they expanded the NIT back to the original... 84 was it? I know it got paired down. Anywho, yea we're done.


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Re: NIT - Host Game?

Post by BiocatAg » March 11th, 2022, 9:36 am

This site has us as a 7-seed in the NIT: https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

I don't know anything about the site or its credibility, but found it interesting that we were mentioned. FWIW, I don't expect us to get an invite to the NIT. I hope we'd take an invite to CIT or CBI, but I guess we'll see what happens...



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Post by troutputz » March 11th, 2022, 11:25 am

The NIT is a lot better than it used to be. They take the runner up in the conference that doesn’t get invited to the NCAA. So there is no way we go to the NIT! Those other two or three tournaments are a piece of crap. However, I am sure if they invite we will accept. I wish we wouldn’t. We need to hit the recruiting trail instead of wasting time on those other tournaments!



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Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 11th, 2022, 11:50 am

I imagine they will leave it up to the players to decide if they want to play in the CIT (if invited). Seniors who will never play ball again probably want one more game. Competitors always want one more game. Unless they are just exhausted at this point.

If we aren't able to recruit due to the normal rigors of the basketball season, just like everyone else does, then an extra week and half while sitting out the CIT isn't going to help.



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Post by ProvoAggie » March 11th, 2022, 11:52 am

Listening to post game last night it sounded like we wanted to keep playing however possible.

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ProvoAggie wrote:Listening to post game last night it sounded like we wanted to keep playing however possible.

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Interesting. Listening to Scotty after the game, he seemed to think we'd turn down an invite to the CIT or CBI, and that the odds at an NIT were slim. No idea if he had inside info or not, but he felt like yesterday was our last game.


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Post by Agezzz » March 11th, 2022, 12:53 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
March 10th, 2022, 9:42 pm
Unless a lot of teams turn it down, I don’t think our NET is high enough for the NIT.

You absolutely accept if offered, but I am honestly far more interested in getting the roster purge and recruiting going :noidea:
Seems to me playing in the NIT would help greatly with recruiting.
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Post by aggies22 » March 11th, 2022, 12:55 pm

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Listening to post game last night it sounded like we wanted to keep playing however possible.

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I got the same feeling.



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Post by newhouse9 » March 11th, 2022, 12:57 pm

I hope we get to keep playing. I love watching this team play. Fingers crossed!
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Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 11th, 2022, 12:59 pm

ProvoAggie wrote:
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Listening to post game last night it sounded like we wanted to keep playing however possible.

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This is a good sign that the culture is healthy within the program after such a tough season with so many close losses. Speaks to the character of the team and the coaches.
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Post by aggies22 » March 11th, 2022, 1:02 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 11th, 2022, 12:59 pm
ProvoAggie wrote:
March 11th, 2022, 11:52 am
Listening to post game last night it sounded like we wanted to keep playing however possible.

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This is a good sign that the culture is healthy within the program after such a tough season with so many close losses. Speaks to the character of the team and the coaches.
Completely agree. Guys that get along don't want it to end. I hope we keep going. If we score a home game or two, you'll find us there.
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