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Is it Possible to Get Refs Under 65 Years Old!?
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He just looks 65 with all that sun. Leather skin
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There was a lot of hair dye involved to cover his grey. We've had bald, balding and/or grey haired refs every game. Like we're rolling up to Sunshine Terrace and asking who wants to dress like a zebra and play with a whistle for a few hours.
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I don't mind their age, but they seem incapable of calling a fair game. Did anyone notice Bean getting blasted by the big guy on his shot attempt during the last minute of the game? Easy foul to call, but nothing.
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The refs may have violated the NCAA rules and will be looked at for leaving the court a spilt second too soon.
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Or by not having us shoot 1-1 FT after 7th foul?? We made basket but kind of a big error
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I find it weird that the lane violations calls were there for a number of missed Boise State free throws.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:53 pmOr by not having us shoot 1-1 FT after 7th foul?? We made basket but kind of a big error
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The first lane violation would have been called by a blind 100 year old grandma. Shulga stepped into the lane about 10 minutes before the free throw was shot and stood inside the key the whole time. Anyone who complains about that call has their head up their rear so far they can’t see straight (which would include a fan who sits near me).SLB wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:57 pmI find it weird that the lane violations calls were there for a number of missed Boise State free throws.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:53 pmOr by not having us shoot 1-1 FT after 7th foul?? We made basket but kind of a big error
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That was egregious. Ironically it actually helped us as we scored two points on the ensuing play, whereas I'm positive we would've missed the front end of the 1 and 1. That's how we roll.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:53 pmOr by not having us shoot 1-1 FT after 7th foul?? We made basket but kind of a big error
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I am sure I saw Odom give a friendly wave goodbye to the refs as they ran and hid after the horrid last minute. Bean was fouled without question and although it may not have mattered, ER was destroyed on the inbound pass.
It would never work for the luck-less Ags, but a free throw, a miss, and a put-back could have tied the game. No wonder they ran away.
It would never work for the luck-less Ags, but a free throw, a miss, and a put-back could have tied the game. No wonder they ran away.
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That foul on Bean and Rock could have been 4 points. They were two of our better free throw shooters. Guess what, 4 more points would have won the game.WAAggie wrote: ↑January 21st, 2022, 8:47 amI am sure I saw Odom give a friendly wave goodbye to the refs as they ran and hid after the horrid last minute. Bean was fouled without question and although it may not have mattered, ER was destroyed on the inbound pass.
It would never work for the luck-less Ags, but a free throw, a miss, and a put-back could have tied the game. No wonder they ran away.
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I don't think the refs out here in the west respect Coach Odom.
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I certainly don't have numbers, but i would guess the age is not a huge factor. The old guy with the spray tan looked ridiculous last night though. He looked like Robin Williams in "Old Dogs" after getting stuck in the spray tan machine. The message on the whiteboard from the student section about it was really funny.
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They seemed to go out of their way to disrespect Odom. I find it very strange since Odom is well-connected and could get whoever fired if he felt like it.
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I was not talking about that one because they were quick to whistle as soon as Boise State missed to call lane violation for a number of Boise State missed free throws.ususports wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 11:58 pmThe first lane violation would have been called by a blind 100 year old grandma. Shulga stepped into the lane about 10 minutes before the free throw was shot and stood inside the key the whole time. Anyone who complains about that call has their head up their rear so far they can’t see straight (which would include a fan who sits near me).SLB wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:57 pmI find it weird that the lane violations calls were there for a number of missed Boise State free throws.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2022, 9:53 pmOr by not having us shoot 1-1 FT after 7th foul?? We made basket but kind of a big error
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I'm not sure but them not being a$$holes sure should be.
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It is crazy how much it seems like refs don't like Odom. He seems like such a docile well-behaved coach (until he lost his cool a couple of times) but what made the refs become so defiant toward him in the first place? Does he just have a look that pisses them off? Does he mumble stuff to them throughout the game? Does our team have a bunch of guys with punchable faces? It just seems we don't get the same calls our opponents do.
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I can't answer all of your questions, but there is not a coach with a more punchable face than Leon Rice (well maybe Randy Bennett). Rice rides the refs all game long and they seem to not have a problem with him.Aglicious wrote: ↑January 21st, 2022, 1:59 pmIt is crazy how much it seems like refs don't like Odom. He seems like such a docile well-behaved coach (until he lost his cool a couple of times) but what made the refs become so defiant toward him in the first place? Does he just have a look that pisses them off? Does he mumble stuff to them throughout the game? Does our team have a bunch of guys with punchable faces? It just seems we don't get the same calls our opponents do.
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West Coast bias??Aggie84025 wrote: ↑January 21st, 2022, 2:08 pmI can't answer all of your questions, but there is not a coach with a more punchable face than Leon Rice (well maybe Randy Bennett). Rice rides the refs all game long and they seem to not have a problem with him.Aglicious wrote: ↑January 21st, 2022, 1:59 pmIt is crazy how much it seems like refs don't like Odom. He seems like such a docile well-behaved coach (until he lost his cool a couple of times) but what made the refs become so defiant toward him in the first place? Does he just have a look that pisses them off? Does he mumble stuff to them throughout the game? Does our team have a bunch of guys with punchable faces? It just seems we don't get the same calls our opponents do.
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Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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Like I've said, if the coaching staff isn't sure how to recruit to Logan and/or navigate the transfer portal, go pay a visit to the football coaching staff.coolag wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 8:02 amOur Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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Craig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
We’ll see I guess jury is still out.
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We need a recruiter on staff with local or at least Western ties. Why is that not a thing?Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:15 amCraig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
We’ll see I guess jury is still out.
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Yeah it’s been a tough year. I, like you, am having a hard time staying invested. It’s doesn’t hurt so much if you step back a bit. I still watch every game but am no longer surprised when we lose close ones.
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It didn't work? I must have missed going to the tourney the last 3 years under coach Smith. As well as winning 2/3 conference tourney championships.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:15 amCraig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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So you want more local players? I thought you wanted diversity on the team.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:21 amWe need a recruiter on staff with local or at least Western ties. Why is that not a thing?Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:15 amCraig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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We did that with Timmy D’s recruits, a Portuguese wunderkind that we got because we had another Portuguese kid on the roster, and a walk-on-turned-god named Justin Bean.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 11:11 amIt didn't work? I must have missed going to the tourney the last 3 years under coach Smith. As well as winning 2/3 conference tourney championships.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:15 amCraig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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I have a feeling that if Odom did that he would quickly realize the same methods are not available to him because he already made the critical mistake of bringing his staff with him. BA brought in guys for his staff from all over the place. Yes, it helps that the majority are minorities as well but the bigger factor is that each brings their own previous potential connections which adds to the pool of possibilities.aggies22 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:10 amLike I've said, if the coaching staff isn't sure how to recruit to Logan and/or navigate the transfer portal, go pay a visit to the football coaching staff.coolag wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 8:02 amOur Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
Odom's guys know who he knows and they have the same connections that they developed together. I guess they deserve the shot to prove if they can bring in some talent but I have a hunch that unless there are some changes on the staff we are going to struggle to bring in MWC level talent.
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Yeah we've heard this story over and over again about Coach Smith and how terrible of a recruiter he was/is. He still was a damn good coach that we were thankful to have and he did a great job while here.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 11:13 amWe did that with Timmy D’s recruits, a Portuguese wunderkind that we got because we had another Portuguese kid on the roster, and a walk-on-turned-god named Justin Bean.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 11:11 amIt didn't work? I must have missed going to the tourney the last 3 years under coach Smith. As well as winning 2/3 conference tourney championships.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 10:15 amCraig smiths pump you up, jock boy boxing quotes didn’t work either so there is that.coolag wrote:Our Head Coach basically had a ref come and threaten to beat his a$$ during a game. Think about that. Can you picture that ever happening to Stew or even Craig Smith? For whatever reason the officials don't respect Odom and seem to go out of their way to let him know it. Maybe its our nerd alert staff or our pasty white roster? But as a family member asked me recently, can you picture any member of our staff going in to a great recruits home and knocking it out of the park with them and their family? Sadly I have no confidence that will happen. We shall see.
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I never said he wasn’t a good coach. I just think it’s pathetic a grown man keeps calling the staff nerds and saying they can’t recruit when they haven’t even had a chance. Seriously, what adult insults people by calling them nerds.
Craig was a good coach but did not recruit well either. Let’s hold judgment on our “nerdy” coaching staff till at least next year.
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Agreed, this off season and next season will be telling with Coach Odom. I want nothing more than for him to succeed here.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 12:08 pmI never said he wasn’t a good coach. I just think it’s pathetic a grown man keeps calling the staff nerds and saying they can’t recruit when they haven’t even had a chance. Seriously, what adult insults people by calling them nerds.
Craig was a good coach but did not recruit well either. Let’s hold judgment on our “nerdy” coaching staff till at least next year.
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Ok I'll refrain from calling our coaches nerds because it obviously bothers you. But having watched the product on the floor, the lack of offense, the demeanor from the coaching staff, the regression throughout the season, the snoozefest interviews, the players body language, the losses piling up, the obvious talent disparity between us and other MWC rosters, the lack of ath a letic players, ect makes me have no confidence that Ryan Odom has what it will take to right the ship. There is that better for you. I imagine not. If you don't like it, well...........ok. He is obviously going to be given a chance for at least two years to see what happens. IMO the concerns I listed are very valid.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2022, 12:08 pmI never said he wasn’t a good coach. I just think it’s pathetic a grown man keeps calling the staff nerds and saying they can’t recruit when they haven’t even had a chance. Seriously, what adult insults people by calling them nerds.
Craig was a good coach but did not recruit well either. Let’s hold judgment on our “nerdy” coaching staff till at least next year.
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This is probably the dumbest thead I have read on this board in quite a while.
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Could we start a forum for complaints about refs? Complaining about refs is small time and juvenile. We aren’t losing because of officiating. We are losing because we seriously lack speed and athleticism.