He is terrible, this team is pathetic

I agree with Agzrule. Odom's coaching is terrible. This team has regressed under him.

We just aren't very good. I don't think it is Odom's fault. At least not yet.

Not even close to the same situation. Duryea had tons of talent, arguably more than Smith did. Odom was dealt a tough hand.

I have no idea if Odom is a good coach or not but this team is not very good. Other than Bean and Bairstow we are really not very athletic and we’re pretty small at the guard spots. I’m surprised our record isn’t worse honestly.

Dureyas recruiting played a big part in Craig Smiths success, and Smiths poor recruiting is playing a big part in odoms failures. This roster can’t win and this roster is Smiths not Odoms

Winning Team wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:07 pm

The only reason we are in these game s is because of Odom. He isn’t the one bricking 3’s and free throws. Atrocious shooting and we don’t have the bodies to match up against anyone in the MW.

I’ll just let you reread your post, I think you will see you agree with me

No Turdya had Sam. This team has no Sam caliber player. I disagree with the OP.

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Odom is part of the equation but this team would have a way better record if the players made shots. I blame this season on the players and their shooting.

We're mentally weak.

Agzrule wrote:He is terrible, this team is pathetic

I found the stupidest post we will see all year and it’s only January. What a fool.


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Agreed. There are many negative things going on and not many things to be optimistic about. What would it take for him to be fired at the end of this year? Any chance of that? (Genuine question, I'm not saying he should (yet) haha)

There are drills to improve shooting. Odom has no idea. Runs no plays when needed. If it's because he has no players, that's his fault. He could have brought in some better players.

Odom won't get fired after 1 year, but he better get his a$$ in gear this offseason to improve this team, or he is gone.

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:12 pm

Agzrule wrote:He is terrible, this team is pathetic

I found the stupidest post we will see all year and it’s only January. What a fool.


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Nice argument, as always

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:11 pm

We're mentally weak.

This is all of it. This team has shown it has the talent to win. We're not getting blown out. What we lack is guys that can fix themselves mentally as the game goes on. Iowa is the only team we didn't belong on the floor with.

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Agzrule wrote:

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:12 pm

Agzrule wrote:He is terrible, this team is pathetic

I found the stupidest post we will see all year and it’s only January. What a fool.


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Nice argument, as always

Aren’t you the idiot that wanted Smith fired after taking USU to 3 consecutive NCAA tournaments?


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GUS wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:13 pm

There are drills to improve shooting. Odom has no idea. Runs no plays when needed. If it's because he has no players, that's his fault. He could have brought in some better players.

I have been to all the home games and our shooting is actually really good in warm ups. We hit a ton of 3s and jump shots. We just never can in the games.

Agzrule wrote:

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:12 pm

Agzrule wrote:He is terrible, this team is pathetic

I found the stupidest post we will see all year and it’s only January. What a fool.


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Nice argument, as always

This thread is stupid IMO

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We appear to lack focus and leadership on the court and on the bench.

Hard to know how to allocate blame between coaches and players but we play incredibly stupid basketball in the final two minutes of close games. It's a clear pattern now.

GUS wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:13 pm

There are drills to improve shooting. Odom has no idea. Runs no plays when needed. If it's because he has no players, that's his fault. He could have brought in some better players.

The coach is 100% responsible for his product on the floor, and this product is embarrassing and getting worse as the season progresses that is on Odom his undisciplined offense approach is a near identical reflection of duryeas, Odom has been a complete disappointment

Agzrule wrote:

GUS wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:13 pm

There are drills to improve shooting. Odom has no idea. Runs no plays when needed. If it's because he has no players, that's his fault. He could have brought in some better players.

The coach is 100% responsible for his product on the floor, and this product is embarrassing and getting worse as the season progresses that is on Odom his undisciplined offense approach is a near identical reflection of duryeas, Odom has been a complete disappointment

In your eyes so was Smith. LOL.


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All of you freaking out, I get it — I was there.

Just learn to accept as I did that we just don’t have the talent this year and stop worrying about the wins and losses this season.

What I hope to see is improvement and development from the guys on the roster that have shown promise, and a swift (but polite) kick out the door for the other half of the roster in the offseason.

Were I Odom, I would honestly use the rest of this season to figure out who is worth bringing back next season. Let Zee and Shulga get extended run. Those are the only two on the roster that are still question marks, IMO.

Ashworth, Jones, Bairstow, and RJER (if he is willing to get in better shape and accept a bench role) should be back. Everyone else aside from Zee and Shulga (who are still question marks) should be shown the door.

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:16 pm

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Horvath went from shooting over 80% from the FT line to clanking them off the glass. He's missed his last 7 free throws.

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:16 pm

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Horvath went from shooting over 80% from the FT line to clanking them off the glass. He's missed his last 7 free throws.

So what has happened? Seems like a confidence thing and the whole team looks tentative out there.

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January 18th, 2022, 11:21 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:16 pm

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Horvath went from shooting over 80% from the FT line to clanking them off the glass. He's missed his last 7 free throws.

So what has happened? Seems like a confidence thing and the whole team looks tentative out there.

It's all mental.

I hope RJER moves on. Inconsistent and below average play. I'd rather keep Potter.

It's all mental. This is probably the best the MWC has ever been and we've been right there, only to flail about in the last minute trying to make up for missed FTs throughout the game.

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:16 pm

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Team came out and started the second half in a panic. Where the hel l did that come from?

slcagg wrote:

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:20 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑

January 18th, 2022, 11:16 pm

Mentally weak. Can't make FTs, we panic and turn the ball over. Miss open looks. Miss layups.

Gotta put some of the blame on the coaches when your team is mentally weak.

Horvath went from shooting over 80% from the FT line to clanking them off the glass. He's missed his last 7 free throws.

So what has happened? Seems like a confidence thing and the whole team looks tentative out there.

100% lack of confidence. That's more mental than coaching in my opinion. We have a perfect storm of multiple players lacking confidence.

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