The concept of this being a trade that someone made in the Portal thread was interesting to me so I thought it should be a poll. Who wins this trade?

Don't we have to wait a year to really have an idea?

Optimism reigns supreme.

I think our incoming beats what we lost to Utah. It's hard for me to group Fonz in with the Utah transfers though. He's a graduate transfer and I hope he enjoys success at his new home.

tjensen_25 wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 1:52 pm

I think our incoming beats what we lost to Utah. It's hard for me to group Fonz in with the Utah transfers though. He's a graduate transfer and I hope he enjoys success at his new home.

100 percent

I think Worster has the stuff to be really good, and he's young. I don't know much about Jones. Eytle Rock and Horvath seem good, but it's hard to lose to young player who can provide a long term foundation for a team. In the end, time can only answer this question.

BigBlueBlood wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 2:01 pm

I think Worster has the stuff to be really good, and he's young. I don't know much about Jones. Eytle Rock and Horvath seem good, but it's hard to lose to young player who can provide a long term foundation for a team. In the end, time can only answer this question.

In regards to eligibility things worked out pretty even.

Horvath and Fonz both have 1 year left
The Rock and Marco have 2
Jonesy has 3
Rollie has 4

You can either look at it as we lost one year of eligibility in total ...... or we gained one year of experience in total. For our success this coming season I'd say we came out ahead.

USU unless Worster turns out to be a star.

I hope that we did...too early to tell

If you add Thelissen then it's no contest, I think.

I think Jones is better than Worster.


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The best defender on that list is by far is Marco, second best is Worster.

I'm giving the edge to the other guys.

If Smith thought Jones was better he wouldn’t have taken the other two. I think Jones is probably better when healthy. I think he was beat up most of the year last year.

Will Jones play like his Freshman year for us, or Sophomore?

I really, really admire the optimism of so many of the posters on this board and I hope that one day I can match that optimism. But I'm certainly not there yet.

Easy, we did, we're not utes.

I would have liked to keep Fonz and Worster. I wish Fonz well and hope he succeeds. Worster and Marco are going to have a harder time. I'm not saying they won't do alright but I think they have a low ceiling in the pac12.

As long as B. Bell doesn't haunt us I figure we did better.

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stang wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 7:34 pm

I really, really admire the optimism of so many of the posters on this board and I hope that one day I can match that optimism. But I'm certainly not there yet.

I'm not there on the Jones-Worster situation yet. I like that Odom brought 2 all conference players with him and I love Norbert Thelissen. I was pretty high on Worster's upside and wasn't impressed with Jones last year. Had we had Worster healthy against Boise, I believe we are regular season MW champs.

I definitely hope to be wrong and see Jones do great things at USU. This will be my last thread that is negative towards Jones though. He is now an Aggie and Worster is playing for the enemy.

Chatman wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 6:53 pm

If Smith thought Jones was better he wouldn’t have taken the other two. I think Jones is probably better when healthy. I think he was beat up most of the year last year.

Agreed. I have always liked Worster, but have always worried about his quickness. When we played teams with really quick guards he struggled. Then against TTech, who had quick AND physical guards, he was lost. Jones appears to be quicker and faster.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 10:04 pm

stang wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 7:34 pm

I really, really admire the optimism of so many of the posters on this board and I hope that one day I can match that optimism. But I'm certainly not there yet.

I'm not there on the Jones-Worster situation yet. I like that Odom brought 2 all conference players with him and I love Norbert Thelissen. I was pretty high on Worster's upside and wasn't impressed with Jones last year. Had we had Worster healthy against Boise, I believe we are regular season MW champs.

I definitely hope to be wrong and see Jones do great things at USU. This will be my last thread that is negative towards Jones though. He is now an Aggie and Worster is playing for the enemy.

If I were an outsider and only saw Worster when he played hurt, or against TTech, I would have said the same things you said against Jones. Not fair, right? Well, Jones played last season with nagging injuries that slowed him down. He was sensational in HS, and really, really good at the U before his injuries slowed him down.

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 1:59 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 7:42 pm

My favorite post from the Ute board about the “trade.”

“Some people think Rollie is better than Rylan Jones. But in reality, he's Worster.”

That is excellent wordplay from whatever random Ute said that. I didn't realize they had a basketball fan forum (I thought you needed basketball fans for that), but I almost want to head over just so I can give that person a thumbs up of some sort.

But I'll take a pass on that. Too much effort.

You have no IDEA the effort it takes to figure out their mess of a board if you've never been there. Best to take the pass at this point before you even try.

This board is simply the best of any mid-major and many P6 boards in the universe.

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 2:33 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 1:59 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 7:42 pm

My favorite post from the Ute board about the “trade.”

“Some people think Rollie is better than Rylan Jones. But in reality, he's Worster.”

That is excellent wordplay from whatever random Ute said that. I didn't realize they had a basketball fan forum (I thought you needed basketball fans for that), but I almost want to head over just so I can give that person a thumbs up of some sort.

But I'll take a pass on that. Too much effort.

You have no IDEA the effort it takes to figure out their mess of a board if you've never been there. Best to take the pass at this point before you even try.

Here is the link to the loser Ute board for those who care.

https://www.cougarboard.com/

I will tell you who won the trade....... thats easy.

Rylan Jones, et. al............ they won the trade

they get to be Aggies on the USU campus and life as an Aggie.......compared to the hole of the U's campus and crap... not even close.

go aggies.....

I wondered if it was kind of sour grapes from Rylan because of the Worster transfer, but then realized that he attended Logan high and his dad coached at USU for a few years. I still do kinda hope there is some sour grapes for some reason, maybe because I like watching players with that chip on their shoulder. Anyway, I’m glad that he will be coming up to USU and I hope he loves it here as much as I did.


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CaptainChaos wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 5:44 pm

I wondered if it was kind of sour grapes from Rylan because of the Worster transfer, but then realized that he attended Logan high and his dad coached at USU for a few years. I still do kinda hope there is some sour grapes for some reason, maybe because I like watching players with that chip on their shoulder. Anyway, I’m glad that he will be coming up to USU and I hope he loves it here as much as I did.


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He will. It’s impossible not to.

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 8:53 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 10:04 pm

stang wrote: ↑

May 7th, 2021, 7:34 pm

I really, really admire the optimism of so many of the posters on this board and I hope that one day I can match that optimism. But I'm certainly not there yet.

I'm not there on the Jones-Worster situation yet. I like that Odom brought 2 all conference players with him and I love Norbert Thelissen. I was pretty high on Worster's upside and wasn't impressed with Jones last year. Had we had Worster healthy against Boise, I believe we are regular season MW champs.

I definitely hope to be wrong and see Jones do great things at USU. This will be my last thread that is negative towards Jones though. He is now an Aggie and Worster is playing for the enemy.

If I were an outsider and only saw Worster when he played hurt, or against TTech, I would have said the same things you said against Jones. Not fair, right? Well, Jones played last season with nagging injuries that slowed him down. He was sensational in HS, and really, really good at the U before his injuries slowed him down.

This is some good insight. I wonder how his recovery is going and if we will be back to 100% for the season. If the aggies get the player that played his freshman year in the Pac 12 he could be a real difference maker for the Aggies.

sammyhagar wrote: ↑

May 8th, 2021, 5:17 pm

I will tell you who won the trade....... thats easy.

Rylan Jones, et. al............ they won the trade

they get to be Aggies on the USU campus and life as an Aggie.......compared to the hole of the U's campus and crap... not even close.

go aggies.....

Not to mention they get to play in the Spectrum and enjoy the atmosphere that it is. The renovated Huntsman center is really nice with amenities etc, but does not compare to the atmosphere in the spectrum.

At this point it looks like the trade is basically Marco/Rollie for Jones/Thelissen. The other free agent signings (portal) and draft pics (HS signings) all have to stand on their own merits. Regarding the 2 for 2 trade, I think it's debatable and will take a couple years to know for sure but I definitely don't think the Aggies got short changed. Rylan is the playmaking point guard that is perfect for setting up a shooter like Thelissen and both should thrive in Odom's offense. Marco and Rollie on the other hand bring the Utes the defense and toughness they often lacked. I think a decent trade for both teams.

TBH I think you could trott out our 5 new guys (Jones, ER, Z, Bert, Horvath) as a starting line-up and we'd compete in most games. Throw in the fact that Bean and Miller will likely start in place of Z and Bert and we can bring in Shulga, Ashworth, Bairstow, McBuckets, Dorius, Zapala..... and I think we have a nice group for this year. Very excited to see what Odom and his staff can get out of this bunch.

Those are big words when you haven't seen most of them play a game and most of our other guys were bench players. We basically just know what we have with Bean. Everyone else is a mystery at this point.