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Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by treesap32 » April 19th, 2021, 10:58 am

Curious to see if he follows through.

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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie84025 » April 19th, 2021, 11:01 am

I would love that so long as it is set up as home and home contract. None of this garbage of only playing at the Huntsman Center.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 19th, 2021, 11:06 am

Yeah hopefully this means playing home and home and not just a "yeah we'll play USU every year, but we won't go to Logan" which basically means we won't play USU.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by imanaggie » April 19th, 2021, 11:12 am

Did you notice that he said he would love to play the game "if Utah State is open to it too"? Does that mean if USU is open to only playing in SLC? A lot of detail missing here. I will give Smith full credit if he plays us home and home.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by EVILrider » April 19th, 2021, 11:27 am

I like that Craig points out USU plays Weber home and home. I guess the logic follows that if USU will play a lower league school on equal terms for the sake of in-state games, why can't Utah? I know we have played in Orem in the past - do we still do a home and home with UVU? While Stew's scheduling philosophies were criticized, give him credit for agreeing to these games and being consistent. I still believe it unlikely that the Utes even play in Logan again - in either sport.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by SLB » April 19th, 2021, 11:43 am

treesap32 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:58 am
Curious to see if he follows through.

https://mwwire.com/2021/04/18/craig-smi ... tah-state/
He said in his press conference. More in-state opponents and tougher opponents = Aggies



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Turtle » April 19th, 2021, 11:50 am

Not 100% sure it is true, and it may be due to scheduling happening years in advance, but I heard Craig Smith called Hartwell to get stuff scheduled and Hartwell wanted three years before it happens.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by aggies22 » April 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm

treesap32 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:58 am
Curious to see if he follows through.

https://mwwire.com/2021/04/18/craig-smi ... tah-state/
Craig Smith also said he was staying at Utah State.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

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aggies22 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
treesap32 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:58 am
Curious to see if he follows through.

https://mwwire.com/2021/04/18/craig-smi ... tah-state/
Craig Smith also said he was staying at Utah State.
This comment from A22 says a lot about the internal handlings of Smith.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by SLB » April 19th, 2021, 1:05 pm

aggies22 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 12:44 pm
treesap32 wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:58 am
Curious to see if he follows through.

https://mwwire.com/2021/04/18/craig-smi ... tah-state/
Craig Smith also said he was staying at Utah State.
Craig Smith was staying until the right deal came across Smith, and the deal that Utah offered him was a good deal for Smith.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by ineptimusprime » April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm

I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 19th, 2021, 1:10 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
Yep, Utah only has something to gain from playing USU if they want to be in the tournament. If they want to continue to be on the wrong side of the bubble even with good Pac seasons like they had under Krysto, they can continue to load up on Evergreen State and Mississippi Valley State.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by ineptimusprime » April 19th, 2021, 1:12 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:10 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
Yep, Utah only has something to gain from playing USU if they want to be in the tournament. If they want to continue to be on the wrong side of the bubble even with good Pac seasons like they had under Krysto, they can continue to load up on Evergreen State and Mississippi Valley State.
Craig Smith is a lot of things (good and bad), but he is not a weenie like Krystko.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by GameFAQSAggie » April 19th, 2021, 1:38 pm

EVILrider wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 11:27 am
I like that Craig points out USU plays Weber home and home. I guess the logic follows that if USU will play a lower league school on equal terms for the sake of in-state games, why can't Utah?
But Craig, while he was here, didn't play South Dakota home and home which would be a comparison to playing USU with Utah. Someone else pointed out that he wouldn't schedule Southern Utah cause of John Knight, so maybe that would be a reflection of his willingness to schedule USU with Utah.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 19th, 2021, 1:50 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:38 pm
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April 19th, 2021, 11:27 am
I like that Craig points out USU plays Weber home and home. I guess the logic follows that if USU will play a lower league school on equal terms for the sake of in-state games, why can't Utah?
But Craig, while he was here, didn't play South Dakota home and home which would be a comparison to playing USU with Utah. Someone else pointed out that he wouldn't schedule Southern Utah cause of John Knight, so maybe that would be a reflection of his willingness to schedule USU with Utah.
South Dakota isn't a longstanding rival who we played every year for over a hundred years before 2011.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by GameFAQSAggie » April 19th, 2021, 1:52 pm

EVILrider wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 11:27 am
I know we have played in Orem in the past - do we still do a home and home with UVU? While Stew's scheduling philosophies were criticized, give him credit for agreeing to these games and being consistent.
While alot of people didn't like us playing home and home with UVU, there wasn't quite the universal consensus that we shouldn't be doing it like there was for road games against IPFW and Jackson State. While there is still the issue with gaining little from a win and a loss being ugly from playing UVU(and UVU sometimes had halfway decent teams so there wasn't even THAT), playing at UVU is at least preferred to a long trip back east in that a 2 hour bus ride takes a lot less out of the kids than a flight back east. Along with the fact that it's easy for fans to make it to, and for some of us, easier to make it to than home games. The same holds true for playing Idaho State home and home.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » April 19th, 2021, 5:32 pm

Smith has a significant contract bonus tied to the Huntsman center attendance. Playing a polarizing game against an in-state opponent helps in that regard.

This is what will likely happen:

Utah signs a 3-year deal (starting next year or the following) with the first game at Utah the second at Vivant, the third in Logan. That way he doesn't have to face the Spectrum crowd for 3-4 years (at which time he will have bounced to a bigger program anyway).
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by ViAggie » April 19th, 2021, 5:57 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 5:32 pm
Smith has a significant contract bonus tied to the Huntsman center attendance. Playing a polarizing game against an in-state opponent helps in that regard.

This is what will likely happen:

Utah signs a 3-year deal (starting next year or the following) with the first game at Utah the second at Vivant, the third in Logan. That way he doesn't have to face the Spectrum crowd for 3-4 years (at which time he will have bounced to a bigger program anyway).
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by pilotaggie » April 19th, 2021, 6:58 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 5:32 pm
Smith has a significant contract bonus tied to the Huntsman center attendance. Playing a polarizing game against an in-state opponent helps in that regard.

This is what will likely happen:

Utah signs a 3-year deal (starting next year or the following) with the first game at Utah the second at Vivant, the third in Logan. That way he doesn't have to face the Spectrum crowd for 3-4 years (at which time he will have bounced to a bigger program anyway).
If that is the deal we should say no. The neutral court is a stupid idea for this series. Home and home is the only acceptable deal, and if they want out of the trip to Logan the cost needs to be astronomical.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie in Boise » April 19th, 2021, 7:10 pm

pilotaggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 6:58 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 5:32 pm
Smith has a significant contract bonus tied to the Huntsman center attendance. Playing a polarizing game against an in-state opponent helps in that regard.

This is what will likely happen:

Utah signs a 3-year deal (starting next year or the following) with the first game at Utah the second at Vivant, the third in Logan. That way he doesn't have to face the Spectrum crowd for 3-4 years (at which time he will have bounced to a bigger program anyway).
If that is the deal we should say no. The neutral court is a stupid idea for this series. Home and home is the only acceptable deal, and if they want out of the trip to Logan the cost needs to be astronomical.
I agree 100%.


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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by YouEssYou » April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm

I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by NowhereLandAggie » April 19th, 2021, 8:52 pm

Turtle wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 11:50 am
Not 100% sure it is true, and it may be due to scheduling happening years in advance, but I heard Craig Smith called Hartwell to get stuff scheduled and Hartwell wanted three years before it happens.
Basketball has many openings and games usually aren't filled out until after the previous season is over.

With 10+ non-conference games, it could happen any year.

One of the provisions in Craig Smith's contract was bonuses through ticket sales. USU would sell more tickets than Evergreen State.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by FL350Aggie » April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm

YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 19th, 2021, 10:45 pm

FL350Aggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm
YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.
I'll believe it when I see it, but if it does happen I will be there. I will fly back from Virginia or wherever I am living at the time to be there. Some of the wins against Utah have been up there as the greatest Aggie games I have attended as a fan.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by aggies22 » April 20th, 2021, 7:52 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
I believe he's just telling everybody what they want to hear.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by sancho839 » April 20th, 2021, 8:23 am

FL350Aggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm
YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.
We gonna boo the guy that gave us two MW championships and three NCAA tournament qualifying teams? Cool, glad we could be those fans.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Sl7vk » April 20th, 2021, 8:27 am

sancho839 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 8:23 am
FL350Aggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm
YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.
We gonna boo the guy that gave us two MW championships and three NCAA tournament qualifying teams? Cool, glad we could be those fans.
Yes. Another way of putting it is that we are fans.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by ineptimusprime » April 20th, 2021, 8:34 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 7:52 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
I believe he's just telling everybody what they want to hear.
I think he’ll follow the money. No games are going to sell better at the Huntsman Center than BYU and USU.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie84025 » April 20th, 2021, 8:37 am

sancho839 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 8:23 am
FL350Aggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm
YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.
We gonna boo the guy that gave us two MW championships and three NCAA tournament qualifying teams? Cool, glad we could be those fans.
It won't be because he left USU, it will be because he left USU to go to Utah. I am forever thankful for Craig and what he did here. These last 3 years were some of the best times as an aggie basketball fan. I just loathe the fact that he went to a school that is hell bent on putting down USU as a school at any given opportunity. Had he went to another school and came back the reception he would hear would be wonderful and welcoming, but to go to Utah who sticks up their noses at USU is why he would get booed.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Real Life Aggie » April 20th, 2021, 9:03 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 7:52 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
I believe he's just telling everybody what they want to hear.
I don't think Utes want to hear that playing Utah State will help bolster their resume.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by aggies22 » April 20th, 2021, 9:49 am

Real Life Aggie wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 9:03 am
aggies22 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 7:52 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
I believe he's just telling everybody what they want to hear.
I don't think Utes want to hear that playing Utah State will help bolster their resume.
I agree with that. My statement was more in reference to the statewide media and the Aggie fans that he kicked in the a$$. Like having him say that we'll start playing utah would ease the disappointment of him leaving.



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Post by newhouse9 » April 20th, 2021, 10:16 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 7:52 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pm
I believe him. Craig Smith wants to play in the NCAA tourney, and a high NET game against USU helps him get there.
I believe he's just telling everybody what they want to hear.
He does seem to like that strategy.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Roy McAvoy » April 20th, 2021, 10:17 am

Time has proven that Craig Smith is full of *****.
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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 20th, 2021, 10:28 am

sancho839 wrote:
April 20th, 2021, 8:23 am
FL350Aggie wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 10:43 pm
YouEssYou wrote:
April 19th, 2021, 7:27 pm
I'll be surprised if Smith ever steps foot in the Spectrum again. If he does, the crowd isn't going to be kind to him.
I really don’t see it ever happening. But maybe, just maybe he is just that arrogant. It would be a long, long night for him.
We gonna boo the guy that gave us two MW championships and three NCAA tournament qualifying teams? Cool, glad we could be those fans.
He left for the enemy, so of course we would boo him. When Lebron left Cleveland for Miami he had already given them more success than they had in their entire franchise history before he got there. Yet when he returned to Cleveland it was ruthless:


I don't know who "those fans" are, but there aren't fans in college basketball would cheer on their rival coach.



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Re: Craig Smith says he wants to play Utah State

Post by sancho839 » April 20th, 2021, 10:54 am

There's a difference between cheering for and not booing. And those Cleveland fans were dumb. Don't you remember every story being about how lame they were?



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