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SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 5:04 pm

We have Ashworth, Bean, Dorius, Miller, and etc, and they are good players. We have Potter coming in who is in the top 15 all-time 247sports recruit, and we will have more players coming in.

troutputz · Post by **troutputz** » April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm

Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

Dungeonmaster119 · Post by **Dungeonmaster119** » April 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

I've heard he's a true wizard on the the court and he can fly.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 5:36 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

I've heard he's a true wizard on the the court and he can fly.

I was tempted to make puns about that but that is dark magic.

Dungeonmaster119 · Post by **Dungeonmaster119** » April 9th, 2021, 5:43 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:36 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

I've heard he's a true wizard on the the court and he can fly.
I was tempted to make puns about that but that is dark magic.

I was born in the darkness... molded by it.... too much?

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 5:45 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:43 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:36 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

I've heard he's a true wizard on the the court and he can fly.
I was tempted to make puns about that but that is dark magic.

I was born in the darkness... molded by it.... too much?

I heard that he was the Bane of Batman's existence. I see myself out

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 5:46 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

https://247sports.com/college/utah-stat ... l/Commits/
https://247sports.com/player/cade-potter-46050636/

troutputz · Post by **troutputz** » April 9th, 2021, 5:56 pm

Will Cade Potter still be coming to USU with the coaching change?

Also, I have not heard much about Bairstow, is he staying?

ROLLEOVERHORDEMANN · Post by **ROLLEOVERHORDEMANN** » April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm

Dorius? Really?

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 6:07 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Dorius? Really?

Dorius was the 2nd best shot blocker in the MWC last season.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 9th, 2021, 6:09 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Dorius? Really?

I really liked what we got out of Dorius as a walk-on, but man, it kinda stinks Smith gave him a scholarship right before bailing. I would rather the new coach have decided whether he wanted to give that scholarship to Trevin or someone else.

This isn’t to say Trevin didn’t earn the scholarship.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 9th, 2021, 6:12 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 6:09 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Dorius? Really?
I really liked what we got out of Dorius as a walk-on, but man, it kinda stinks Smith gave him a scholarship right before bailing. I would rather the new coach have decided whether he wanted to give that scholarship to Trevin or someone else.

This isn’t to say Trevin didn’t earn the scholarship.

Dorius is going to be in year 3, and he really improved from year 1 to year 2. 7 footers don't grow on trees, and I am excited to see year 3 of Dorius.

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » April 9th, 2021, 6:41 pm

SLB wrote:
ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 6:09 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Dorius? Really?
I really liked what we got out of Dorius as a walk-on, but man, it kinda stinks Smith gave him a scholarship right before bailing. I would rather the new coach have decided whether he wanted to give that scholarship to Trevin or someone else.

This isn’t to say Trevin didn’t earn the scholarship.
Dorius is going to be in year 3, and he really improved from year 1 to year 2. 7 footers don't grow on trees, and I am excited to see year 3 of Dorius.

Dorious has never had a legitimate chance at starting and has not been given the development focus or opportunities in practice. This is as expected because we had Queta sitting in the starting lineup for the last 3 years. I am curious to see his improvement this year as well given more time to play a real role on the team.

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Post by **AggiesForever** » April 10th, 2021, 4:00 pm

You earn the right to start-- you don't get a "chance" to start. That is only in Junior Jazz. Dorius can do some nice things. But he's not getting any more athletic or any more saavy with the ball in his hands. We've seen what he can contribute, and its 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there. We need somebody who, when the ball is actually thrown to him, can turn and make an athletic move to the hoop. That player may or may not exist on our roster.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » April 10th, 2021, 4:06 pm

AggiesForever wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2021, 4:00 pm
You earn the right to start-- you don't get a "chance" to start. That is only in Junior Jazz. Dorius can do some nice things. But he's not getting any more athletic or any more saavy with the ball in his hands. We've seen what he can contribute, and its 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there. We need somebody who, when the ball is actually thrown to him, can turn and make an athletic move to the hoop. That player may or may not exist on our roster.

That's a roster issue, not a Dorius issue. Why do we blame him as a player for being behind the best Center in the Mountain West?

CanuckAggie · Post by **CanuckAggie** » April 10th, 2021, 4:09 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:45 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:43 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:36 pm

Dungeonmaster119 wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

troutputz wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Who is Potter? Where did he play High School ball? Guess I have been out of the loop! Either that or my memory is going.

We need to get some JC guys. Ladell always had a mix of JC guys and so did Stew! Rod had a lot of JC guys. One thing I miss about Rod’s guys, they could shoot. No defense but we shot the ball well.

I've heard he's a true wizard on the the court and he can fly.
I was tempted to make puns about that but that is dark magic.

I was born in the darkness... molded by it.... too much?
I heard that he was the Bane of Batman's existence. I see myself out

Whoops... I must have stumbled into the Sci-Fi/Fantasy forum again.

Post by **aggies22** » April 11th, 2021, 7:13 am

scotlandog wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 6:41 pm

SLB wrote:
ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 6:09 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2021, 5:59 pm
Dorius? Really?
I really liked what we got out of Dorius as a walk-on, but man, it kinda stinks Smith gave him a scholarship right before bailing. I would rather the new coach have decided whether he wanted to give that scholarship to Trevin or someone else.

This isn’t to say Trevin didn’t earn the scholarship.
Dorius is going to be in year 3, and he really improved from year 1 to year 2. 7 footers don't grow on trees, and I am excited to see year 3 of Dorius.
Dorious has never had a legitimate chance at starting and has not been given the development focus or opportunities in practice. This is as expected because we had Queta sitting in the starting lineup for the last 3 years. I am curious to see his improvement this year as well given more time to play a real role on the team.

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Trevin never had a shot starting over Neemias. That I agree with. But to say he was not given an opportunity to develop in practice would be doing the former coaching staff a great disservice. It's not like they stuck him and Szymon in the corner while Neemias got all the work.

bullshot · Post by **bullshot** » April 11th, 2021, 8:46 am

Potter as a “top 15 recruit”. Since when (never) did USU get a top 15 recruit since Wayne Estes?

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » April 11th, 2021, 9:00 am

AggiesForever wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2021, 4:00 pm
You earn the right to start-- you don't get a "chance" to start. That is only in Junior Jazz. Dorius can do some nice things. But he's not getting any more athletic or any more saavy with the ball in his hands. We've seen what he can contribute, and its 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there. We need somebody who, when the ball is actually thrown to him, can turn and make an athletic move to the hoop. That player may or may not exist on our roster.

You've been spoiled by Queta. Then the way the game is played now, we no longer need a guy that can score with his back to the basket out of the post. We need a physical defender and rebounder, which he is. The only thing that I don't like about Dorius is that he is not athletic. This is going to be a big problem because he can't be used in the pick and roll or pick and pop.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 11th, 2021, 9:08 am

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 9:00 am

AggiesForever wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2021, 4:00 pm
You earn the right to start-- you don't get a "chance" to start. That is only in Junior Jazz. Dorius can do some nice things. But he's not getting any more athletic or any more saavy with the ball in his hands. We've seen what he can contribute, and its 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there. We need somebody who, when the ball is actually thrown to him, can turn and make an athletic move to the hoop. That player may or may not exist on our roster.
You've been spoiled by Queta. Then the way the game is played now, we no longer need a guy that can score with his back to the basket out of the post. We need a physical defender and rebounder, which he is. The only thing that I don't like about Dorius is that he is not athletic. This is going to be a big problem because he can't be used in the pick and roll or pick and pop.

Trevin had good moments on defense, but also got beat and fouled a lot. He is also a bit of a black hole on offense unless he is open for a dunk or putback.

He is good for some rebounding and powerful dunks and could maybe grow into a very solid MW backup. But I think we are in trouble if he is our starting 5, IMO.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think he played much down the stretch of the season. I am surprised he got a scholarship, and I thought the story was he was on academic scholarship, his family was loaded, and he didn’t need one.

cval · Post by **cval** » April 11th, 2021, 9:50 am

Depends on who the other four guys are. We will obviously not be running an offense built inside out like we did with Queta, but most teams don’t have him.

A big presence in the key can be enough with four other guys who are more dynamic.

Trust the Coach to figure out how to make it work with the guys we have once the roster shuffling is done.

Juddikus · Post by **Juddikus** » April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm

You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 11th, 2021, 1:17 pm

Juddikus wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm
You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?

Total bummer if true.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 11th, 2021, 1:19 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:17 pm

Juddikus wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm
You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?
Total bummer if true.

For real... hoping it’s incorrect

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » April 11th, 2021, 1:38 pm

Juddikus wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm
You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?

Poor dude. Wishing him the best for the rest of his life. Once you have a bad back, it's hard to get it right.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 11th, 2021, 3:16 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 9:00 am
...[Dorius] can't be used in the pick and roll or pick and pop.

How often do you recall Queta setting a pick and spinning to pop a long-range shot? Or setting a pick and diving to the basket, receiving a high pass at the rim? Or diving and receiving a split-the-D low pass and finishing?

I don't recall seeing that much.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » April 11th, 2021, 3:24 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:17 pm

Juddikus wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm
You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?
Total bummer if true.

He wouldn't be the first player who looks great in practice but struggles in games, except for an occassional decent game against weak competition, to be forced to medically retire.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 11th, 2021, 3:32 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 3:24 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:17 pm

Juddikus wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 1:13 pm
You can scratch Miller off that list as I’ve been told he will medically retire due to his back. Maybe that’s why Shulga returned?
Total bummer if true.
He wouldn't be the first player who looks great in practice but struggles in games, except for an occassional decent game against weak competition, to be forced to medically retire.

Yeah, he was a real liability in our wins this season against cellar dweller San Diego St and joke of a program Colorado St.

The Brock Miller slander is never going to make any sense, and I should probably just give up. Brock suffered from being the only guy in the starting five that could hit a shot, so it somehow became notable when he missed.

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » April 11th, 2021, 4:04 pm

Too bad for Brock if true.

He was are best shooter but he was only on half the time.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » April 11th, 2021, 4:27 pm

Bummer. I didn’t want it to end this way for him. Brock is a genuine good guy who bleeds Aggie Blue and poured his heart into the program. Wish him the best. He’ll do great at whatever he decides to pursue.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » April 11th, 2021, 4:43 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 3:16 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 9:00 am
...[Dorius] can't be used in the pick and roll or pick and pop.
How often do you recall Queta setting a pick and spinning to pop a long-range shot? Or setting a pick and diving to the basket, receiving a high pass at the rim? Or diving and receiving a split-the-D low pass and finishing?

I don't recall seeing that much.

Good point. There's no reason that the coach's shouldn't have run that play other than the fact that Rollie couldn't consistently knock down the three of they ran it. The only other player that could run that play was Ashworth but he was always struggling for minutes. It's not just about Queta. You gotta have a coach that will run it and you have to have the guard who can run it.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » April 11th, 2021, 4:46 pm

P.S. brownjeans, how many tournament games did you watch? I watched all the upsets and there wasn't one of those teams who didn't have the guard play to run it.

OGaggie23 · Post by **OGaggie23** » April 11th, 2021, 4:56 pm

WRONG Brock is fine and will be in the line up next year. Talked with him and is taking his time with his back but will be back and ready to go. Great player Great Guy and doesn’t deserve any of the slander he gets

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 11th, 2021, 5:19 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2021, 4:27 pm
Bummer. I didn’t want it to end this way for him. Brock is a genuine good guy who bleeds Aggie Blue and poured his heart into the program. Wish him the best. He’ll do great at whatever he decides to pursue.

I agree, he gave the program everything he had. He is for sure a true aggie. I just wish he could have been honored on senior night had we known it was his last game in the spectrum.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » April 11th, 2021, 5:31 pm

OGaggie23 wrote:WRONG Brock is fine and will be in the line up next year. Talked with him and is taking his time with his back but will be back and ready to go. Great player Great Guy and doesn’t deserve any of the slander he gets

Luckily for every poster who doesn’t think he’s a consistent enough shooter, 50 other posters rush to defend his honor.

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