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Spencer is great at relating to people, but that may or may not mean he is as great at stuff like correcting skills and designing plays as someone else we could get. Like maybe he was part of the problem with how they ran practices, reseting things without explaining things.
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Yeah there were some people pretty angry with Smith on this board for not retaining Nelson. Obviously not everyone who wanted Nelson to be retained thought it was "horrible" but some certainly did. Until Smith leaving for Utah, it was by far the thing Smith got the most criticism for on this board.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:13 pmI don’t think so. I remember there being so much pressure there Craig Smith had to address the topic of Spencer Nelson early on in interviews & maybe even his introductory press conference.2004AG wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pmNot quite. Nobody thought it was “horrible”. Some of us did think it might be a good idea to have someone act as a “bridge” for the current players and to help navigate the state of Utah.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:There were people on here that made it out to be this horrible thing that Craig Smith didn't retain Spencer. Then Smith went out and won 76% of his MW games over the next 3 years, something nobody thought possible.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 7:38 pmWhy are you enamored with Spencer as an assistant? Went Smith came in and did not retain him Spencer took a job with a financial advisory group. He’s been out of the coaching ranks for three years.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:37 pmIs he going to get Spencer or Jaycee?bpd wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:34 pmI brought it up in the other thread but it got lost a little. One of the big questions JH was going to ask in interviews, is who would make up the staff. Does anybody have any insight on this. Is Odom bringing some of his staff with him. Is he going to retain some current. Or is he just going to start over?
Just because someone was great as a player at USU doesn't mean they are a good coach and should be on staff.
It has been blown WAYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion
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And he has coached nowhere else since that time. If he is this amazing coach why isn't he in big demand or pursuing a job in the coaching profession?utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:46 pmSpencer is one of my all-time favorite Aggie players. But I’m interested in the evidence of your statement that “by all accounts” he was really good as an assistant. He was on Duryea’s staff for two years. During those two years we finished 7th and 8th in the conference and were a combined 6 games under .500. What am I missing?cval wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:28 pmDo you guys know Spencer? There is a reason people are high on him.
He just relates to people, pretty much everyone. He can return to the investment banking business anytime he wants, but was excited to try coaching, and by all accounts was really good at it.
I don’t know if he still wants to, but if he did, he would be successful, and I would love to see it.
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Aside from leaving to Utah I would say Smith got more heat on this board for not recruiting a point guard or shooter in addition to playing miller so much.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 10:39 pmYeah there were some people pretty angry with Smith on this board for not retaining Nelson. Obviously not everyone who wanted Nelson to be retained thought it was "horrible" but some certainly did. Until Smith leaving for Utah, it was by far the thing Smith got the most criticism for on this board.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:13 pmI don’t think so. I remember there being so much pressure there Craig Smith had to address the topic of Spencer Nelson early on in interviews & maybe even his introductory press conference.2004AG wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pmNot quite. Nobody thought it was “horrible”. Some of us did think it might be a good idea to have someone act as a “bridge” for the current players and to help navigate the state of Utah.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:There were people on here that made it out to be this horrible thing that Craig Smith didn't retain Spencer. Then Smith went out and won 76% of his MW games over the next 3 years, something nobody thought possible.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 7:38 pmWhy are you enamored with Spencer as an assistant? Went Smith came in and did not retain him Spencer took a job with a financial advisory group. He’s been out of the coaching ranks for three years.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:37 pmIs he going to get Spencer or Jaycee?bpd wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:34 pmI brought it up in the other thread but it got lost a little. One of the big questions JH was going to ask in interviews, is who would make up the staff. Does anybody have any insight on this. Is Odom bringing some of his staff with him. Is he going to retain some current. Or is he just going to start over?
Just because someone was great as a player at USU doesn't mean they are a good coach and should be on staff.
It has been blown WAYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion
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Over the course of time, sure giving such a greenlight to Brock Miller was criticized by many. As far as one incident that jumps out, him not retaining Nelson was pretty heavily criticized. Miller was more of a general complaint over a period of time.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 10:42 pmAside from leaving to Utah I would say Smith got more heat on this board for not recruiting a point guard or shooter in addition to playing miller so much.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 10:39 pmYeah there were some people pretty angry with Smith on this board for not retaining Nelson. Obviously not everyone who wanted Nelson to be retained thought it was "horrible" but some certainly did. Until Smith leaving for Utah, it was by far the thing Smith got the most criticism for on this board.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:13 pmI don’t think so. I remember there being so much pressure there Craig Smith had to address the topic of Spencer Nelson early on in interviews & maybe even his introductory press conference.2004AG wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pmNot quite. Nobody thought it was “horrible”. Some of us did think it might be a good idea to have someone act as a “bridge” for the current players and to help navigate the state of Utah.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:There were people on here that made it out to be this horrible thing that Craig Smith didn't retain Spencer. Then Smith went out and won 76% of his MW games over the next 3 years, something nobody thought possible.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 7:38 pmWhy are you enamored with Spencer as an assistant? Went Smith came in and did not retain him Spencer took a job with a financial advisory group. He’s been out of the coaching ranks for three years.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:37 pmIs he going to get Spencer or Jaycee?bpd wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:34 pmI brought it up in the other thread but it got lost a little. One of the big questions JH was going to ask in interviews, is who would make up the staff. Does anybody have any insight on this. Is Odom bringing some of his staff with him. Is he going to retain some current. Or is he just going to start over?
Just because someone was great as a player at USU doesn't mean they are a good coach and should be on staff.
It has been blown WAYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion
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I believe it's by choice. Spencer left a very good job to take a coaching position at his Alma Mater and try the coaching thing out. Duryea wasn't a good coach and things clearly didn't work out with that staff, so he chose to return to the world of finance where he's done quite well for himself.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 10:42 pmAnd he has coached nowhere else since that time. If he is this amazing coach why isn't he in big demand or pursuing a job in the coaching profession?utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:46 pmSpencer is one of my all-time favorite Aggie players. But I’m interested in the evidence of your statement that “by all accounts” he was really good as an assistant. He was on Duryea’s staff for two years. During those two years we finished 7th and 8th in the conference and were a combined 6 games under .500. What am I missing?cval wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:28 pmDo you guys know Spencer? There is a reason people are high on him.
He just relates to people, pretty much everyone. He can return to the investment banking business anytime he wants, but was excited to try coaching, and by all accounts was really good at it.
I don’t know if he still wants to, but if he did, he would be successful, and I would love to see it.
Not saying he is a good coach or isn't a good coach, but him not being a coach right now doesn't have anything to do with that.
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Fun Spencer story that shows some of his friendly personality.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:46 pmSpencer is one of my all-time favorite Aggie players. But I’m interested in the evidence of your statement that “by all accounts” he was really good as an assistant. He was on Duryea’s staff for two years. During those two years we finished 7th and 8th in the conference and were a combined 6 games under .500. What am I missing?cval wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:28 pmDo you guys know Spencer? There is a reason people are high on him.
He just relates to people, pretty much everyone. He can return to the investment banking business anytime he wants, but was excited to try coaching, and by all accounts was really good at it.
I don’t know if he still wants to, but if he did, he would be successful, and I would love to see it.
I don't make it to a lot of games in person, because I live out of state I made it to a game when he was an assistant on Durea's staff and was sitting about three rows up next to the tunnel. Spencer walks up to me before the game and says, hey you look really familiar do I know you? I just said I'm a big fan and I went to school at USU when he was playing. He was really cool, and told me to enjoy the game. He is a very likeable guy and is easily one of my all-time favorites. Just because of his personality and where he has been in life I'll bet his network is almost endless.
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Really? He went from playing professional basketball in New Zealand to working mortgages in Pocatello? That's depressing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:51 pmTai is doing mortgages in Pocatello, ID.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:49 pmTai Wesley just wrapped up his pro career and I believe is living in Utah somewhere. He'd be an amazing assistant coach! Or maybe Jalen Moore.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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Well, he did buy a guy a sub sandwich in Reno once.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:46 pmSpencer is one of my all-time favorite Aggie players. But I’m interested in the evidence of your statement that “by all accounts” he was really good as an assistant. He was on Duryea’s staff for two years. During those two years we finished 7th and 8th in the conference and were a combined 6 games under .500. What am I missing?cval wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:28 pmDo you guys know Spencer? There is a reason people are high on him.
He just relates to people, pretty much everyone. He can return to the investment banking business anytime he wants, but was excited to try coaching, and by all accounts was really good at it.
I don’t know if he still wants to, but if he did, he would be successful, and I would love to see it.
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I haven’t read anything in the church handbook that would restrict him from coaching because of that. I will send an email to President Nelson to see if we can get that removed if it is there.
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Also, see if the men can get the soft chairs too.
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You're trying to argue something subjective. Your perception is "people thought it was horrible", but that's not accurate, that's just how you remember it because there were some people who thought it would be a good idea. You're projecting. I doubt more than one or two people thought it was "horrible". The rest of us in that camp just thought it might be a good idea for the third assistant to be familiar about recruiting to Utah State and being familiar to the current players, etc. I don't see how that is controversial whatsoever.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 10:39 pmYeah there were some people pretty angry with Smith on this board for not retaining Nelson. Obviously not everyone who wanted Nelson to be retained thought it was "horrible" but some certainly did. Until Smith leaving for Utah, it was by far the thing Smith got the most criticism for on this board.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 9:13 pmI don’t think so. I remember there being so much pressure there Craig Smith had to address the topic of Spencer Nelson early on in interviews & maybe even his introductory press conference.2004AG wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pmNot quite. Nobody thought it was “horrible”. Some of us did think it might be a good idea to have someone act as a “bridge” for the current players and to help navigate the state of Utah.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:There were people on here that made it out to be this horrible thing that Craig Smith didn't retain Spencer. Then Smith went out and won 76% of his MW games over the next 3 years, something nobody thought possible.utaggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 7:38 pmWhy are you enamored with Spencer as an assistant? Went Smith came in and did not retain him Spencer took a job with a financial advisory group. He’s been out of the coaching ranks for three years.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:37 pmIs he going to get Spencer or Jaycee?bpd wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 4:34 pmI brought it up in the other thread but it got lost a little. One of the big questions JH was going to ask in interviews, is who would make up the staff. Does anybody have any insight on this. Is Odom bringing some of his staff with him. Is he going to retain some current. Or is he just going to start over?
Just because someone was great as a player at USU doesn't mean they are a good coach and should be on staff.
It has been blown WAYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion
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Here are some other possibilities for assistances:Imakeitrain wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:48 pmJaxon Myaer has done some coaching and a great Aggie regardless of if he measured up on the court here.
Greg Grant, Danny Conway, Gilbert Pete, Greg Housekeeper, Leo Cunningham, Vince Washington, Michael McCullough, Chris McMullin, Tan Tueller, Ron Ence, or Jeff “Omar” Anderson
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There is nothing wrong with the pocatello area. I lived close by in american falls for 3 years after college, really enjoyed it there.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 1:36 amReally? He went from playing professional basketball in New Zealand to working mortgages in Pocatello? That's depressing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:51 pmTai is doing mortgages in Pocatello, ID.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:49 pmTai Wesley just wrapped up his pro career and I believe is living in Utah somewhere. He'd be an amazing assistant coach! Or maybe Jalen Moore.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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Not to mention the housing market is booming there. Pocatello always gets overlooked, but it is one of the finest cities in Idaho.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 7:28 amThere is nothing wrong with the pocatello area. I lived close by in american falls for 3 years after college, really enjoyed it there.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 1:36 amReally? He went from playing professional basketball in New Zealand to working mortgages in Pocatello? That's depressing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:51 pmTai is doing mortgages in Pocatello, ID.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:49 pmTai Wesley just wrapped up his pro career and I believe is living in Utah somewhere. He'd be an amazing assistant coach! Or maybe Jalen Moore.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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The way you build your staff reflects both your playing and your recruiting philosophy. I didn't care with Smith who he hired but I would have loved to have seen one coach with local ties. Still feel the same and hope we get one local guy and I hope we aggressively recruit this area. And I wholeheartedly agree that former players don't always make good coaches.
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I always thought it was pretty country surrounding Pocatello as well, but my biggest beef was the downtown trainyards and industrial eye sore. Have they cleaned it up yet?Chatman wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 7:39 amNot to mention the housing market is booming there. Pocatello always gets overlooked, but it is one of the finest cities in Idaho.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 7:28 amThere is nothing wrong with the pocatello area. I lived close by in american falls for 3 years after college, really enjoyed it there.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 1:36 amReally? He went from playing professional basketball in New Zealand to working mortgages in Pocatello? That's depressing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:51 pmTai is doing mortgages in Pocatello, ID.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 6:49 pmTai Wesley just wrapped up his pro career and I believe is living in Utah somewhere. He'd be an amazing assistant coach! Or maybe Jalen Moore.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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The "aggie" being mentioned is not spencer nor has it been named in this thread. We'll see if it pans out, but it's very likely to happen.
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I would personally like to see guys retained from the previous staff rather that hiring a former player or "Alumnus".
I would like to see the best Assistants not some dude that's an Aggie.
I would like to see the best Assistants not some dude that's an Aggie.
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He said in his interview he is going after RM’s and Polynesian kids. With the output of Bean and Porter wants to step up the walk on program too.bpd wrote:I brought it up in the other thread but it got lost a little. One of the big questions JH was going to ask in interviews, is who would make up the staff. Does anybody have any insight on this. Is Odom bringing some of his staff with him. Is he going to retain some current. Or is he just going to start over?
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I heard on a podcast that Preston Medlin is living in Logan and looking to get into coaching.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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I can’t speak for the new BYU grad owner, but the previous owner never gave me the impression that they gave two (I can't express myself without swearing) about USU.SLB wrote:Maybe someone from the Jazz
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He could teach guards how to shoot the ball. Medlin shot the ball well.sstrasser wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:32 amI heard on a podcast that Preston Medlin is living in Logan and looking to get into coaching.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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I am not talking about Jazz owner, but the Jazz assistants and scouts themselves could be interested. Odom's brother could be an assistant coach and recruiter for us.CaptainChaos wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:36 amI can’t speak for the new BYU grad owner, but the previous owner never gave me the impression that they gave two (I can't express myself without swearing) about USU.SLB wrote:Maybe someone from the Jazz
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Brian Green was at one point a grad assistant... not sure where he is now.sstrasser wrote:I heard on a podcast that Preston Medlin is living in Logan and looking to get into coaching.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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Are these former players coaching now, or are you just naming some of your favorite players? Maybe I’m missing something here, but if I were a new head coach choosing my staff, I would want assistants who have been coaching COLLEGE level. Have serious experience recruiting, and know X’s and O’s. Smith, for example, brought in Peterson because his specialty was defense, and he made us a great defensive team.Chatman wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 7:03 amHere are some other possibilities for assistances:Imakeitrain wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 8:48 pmJaxon Myaer has done some coaching and a great Aggie regardless of if he measured up on the court here.
Greg Grant, Danny Conway, Gilbert Pete, Greg Housekeeper, Leo Cunningham, Vince Washington, Michael McCullough, Chris McMullin, Tan Tueller, Ron Ence, or Jeff “Omar” Anderson
If the former players you named are now successful assistants in the college game....great. But if not, it would scare me to see them on the sidelines wondering “what the hell do we do next?”
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Geese!sstrasser wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:32 amI heard on a podcast that Preston Medlin is living in Logan and looking to get into coaching.Aggieiester wrote: ↑April 5th, 2021, 5:06 pmAre there any former Aggie basketball players are working their way up through the coaching profession like Chucky, DJ or AL on the football side?
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I know- I'm just saying history wouldn't indicate a lot of understanding/encouragement or even just good will towards us from ownership.SLB wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:39 amI am not talking about Jazz owner, but the Jazz assistants and scouts themselves could be interested. Odom's brother could be an assistant coach and recruiter for us.CaptainChaos wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:36 amI can’t speak for the new BYU grad owner, but the previous owner never gave me the impression that they gave two (I can't express myself without swearing) about USU.SLB wrote:Maybe someone from the Jazz
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I'm wondering if Odom's cousin, Lamar, could help us out. He surely has NBA ties.SLB wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:39 amI am not talking about Jazz owner, but the Jazz assistants and scouts themselves could be interested. Odom's brother could be an assistant coach and recruiter for us.CaptainChaos wrote: ↑April 6th, 2021, 10:36 amI can’t speak for the new BYU grad owner, but the previous owner never gave me the impression that they gave two (I can't express myself without swearing) about USU.SLB wrote:Maybe someone from the Jazz
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