David Ragland & Austin Hansen

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am

It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » March 30th, 2021, 8:58 am

I wonder if smith has to keep the assistants at Utah who have sons on the team there.

Post by **aggies22** » March 30th, 2021, 8:59 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:58 am
I wonder if smith has to keep the assistants at Utah who have sons on the team there.

Demarlo Slocum from UNLV was in SLC interviewing yesterday.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » March 30th, 2021, 9:00 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am
It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.

That's cold blooded

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » March 30th, 2021, 9:02 am

Nothing official yet, but it sounds like two of Smith's assistants will be Eric Peterson & Demarlo Slocum.

That 3rd assistant is the interesting one. There's some smoke he may hire Chris Burgess from BYU. One of Utah's star player's dad is also an assistant coach (Larry K hired him to land his son as a player), if he lets go of the dad the kid will likely transfer as well. So he made need to be retained.

Post by **aggies22** » March 30th, 2021, 9:04 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 9:02 am
It sounds like two of Smith's assistants will be Eric Peterson & Demarlo Slocum.

That 3rd assistant is the interesting one. There's some smoke he may hire Chris Burgess from BYU. One of Utah's star player's dad is also an assistant coach (Larry K hired him to land his son as a player), if he lets go of the dad the kid will likely transfer as well. So he made need to be retained.

I can confirm that Eric did in fact make the move to Salt Lake.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » March 30th, 2021, 9:20 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am
It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.

Be interesting if Harlan forced his hand on bringing in some other assistants rather than bringing his assistants that have been with him. It is never a great situation if the AD hires you to be the coach, but then mandates who the assistants are. Not saying that happened, but be interesting to see how it works out. Sucks for Hansen and Ragland, but such is life in the coaching profession.

Sike · Post by **Sike** » March 30th, 2021, 9:26 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am
It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.

Not true at all. Utah did not make contact until later that night, after Johnnie Bryant turned the job down.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » March 30th, 2021, 9:30 am

Sike wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 9:26 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am
It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.
Not true at all. Utah did not make contact until later that night, after Johnnie Bryant turned the job down.

Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. However, nothing in my post goes against that statement and makes it "not true at all".

kofdog · Post by **kofdog** » March 30th, 2021, 9:31 am

Sike wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 9:26 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 8:55 am
It sounds like Eric Peterson is the only assistant coach going with Craig Smith to Utah. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ragland & Hansen. I wonder if one will be retained by the new coaching staff.

Also, how about Craig Smith huh? Lead everyone to believe you're not taking the job, then take the job without telling anyone first, have your players find out you're leaving on Twitter, and then leave the dudes who helped get you there in the dust.
Not true at all. Utah did not make contact until later that night, after Johnnie Bryant turned the job down.

I still can't believe it didn't say anything about USU at the press conference...so lame

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am

I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 10:11 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.

100% this - you know it.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » March 30th, 2021, 10:36 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:11 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.
100% this - you know it.

Yip, the big red school down south is big on censorship. Smith will be told who he's allowed to talk to, what he's allowed to talk about, what he's allowed to say, what he's not allowed to say, what he's allowed to wear, who he's allowed to hire, who he's allowed to play, etc. but for a guaranteed 18 million it's well worth it.

Donman · Post by **Donman** » March 30th, 2021, 11:12 am

The assistants are who I feel bad for. They were successful and now may be out of jobs.

The players at least still have their scholarships.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 11:16 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.

Nice use of the rare Triple-Negative. I'm a little confused, but I think I got what you were after.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 11:20 am

I tried to get five in there, but I am not that good. Just remember that odd numbers of negatives stay negative. Even numbers of negatives go positive.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » March 30th, 2021, 11:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:12 am
The assistants are who I feel bad for. They were successful and now may be out of jobs.

The players at least still have their scholarships.

Are the assistants technically out of jobs now or does USU retain them until the new coach is hired and ultimately decides whether or not to keep them on board?

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » March 30th, 2021, 11:28 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:20 am
I tried to get five in there, but I am not that good. Just remember that odd numbers of negatives stay negative. Even numbers of negatives go positive.

And for the worst structured sentence you'll read today:

It wouldn't surprise me if Harlan hadn't told Smith he wasn't to mention the Aggies but Smith couldn't get himself to not not mention USU or his time there, even though he didn't want to not be a douche

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » March 30th, 2021, 11:31 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:12 am
The assistants are who I feel bad for. They were successful and now may be out of jobs.

The players at least still have their scholarships.
Are the assistants technically out of jobs now or does USU retain them until the new coach is hired and ultimately decides whether or not to keep them on board?

I was wondering the same thing. The assistant coaches have contracts with the University, not the head coach, right? Do they have buyout clauses? Or is it written in their contracts that their employment is tied to the head coach and they leave when he leaves or is fired? I'm not sure how that works.

Donman · Post by **Donman** » March 30th, 2021, 11:32 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:12 am
The assistants are who I feel bad for. They were successful and now may be out of jobs.

The players at least still have their scholarships.
Are the assistants technically out of jobs now or does USU retain them until the new coach is hired and ultimately decides whether or not to keep them on board?

I assume they still have jobs as of now. I assume one is the acting head coach right now.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » March 30th, 2021, 11:40 am

Donman wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:32 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:24 am

Donman wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:12 am
The assistants are who I feel bad for. They were successful and now may be out of jobs.

The players at least still have their scholarships.
Are the assistants technically out of jobs now or does USU retain them until the new coach is hired and ultimately decides whether or not to keep them on board?
I assume they still have jobs as of now. I assume one is the acting head coach right now.

Hartwell didn't mention who was acting as head coach during his call with Scotty. I got the impression that he and the experienced players were overseeing things but I have

When he canned Duryea he appointed Spencer as acting Head Coach.

sammyhagar · Post by **sammyhagar** » March 30th, 2021, 11:45 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:20 am
I tried to get five in there, but I am not that good. Just remember that odd numbers of negatives stay negative. Even numbers of negatives go positive.

is that like your Fibonacci thing?

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 11:46 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:36 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:11 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.
100% this - you know it.
Yip, the big red school down south is big on censorship. Smith will be told who he's allowed to talk to, what he's allowed to talk about, what he's allowed to say, what he's not allowed to say, what he's allowed to wear, who he's allowed to hire, who he's allowed to play, etc. but for a guaranteed 18 million it's well worth it.

Uddah: Here's $12 Million for six years, now STFU and do what we tell you!
Smith: Okay boss!

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » March 30th, 2021, 11:47 am

sammyhagar wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:45 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:20 am
I tried to get five in there, but I am not that good. Just remember that odd numbers of negatives stay negative. Even numbers of negatives go positive.
is that like your Fibonacci thing?

The pieces fit

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » March 30th, 2021, 11:56 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:28 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:20 am
I tried to get five in there, but I am not that good. Just remember that odd numbers of negatives stay negative. Even numbers of negatives go positive.
And for the worst structured sentence you'll read today:

It wouldn't surprise me if Harlan hadn't told Smith he wasn't to mention the Aggies but Smith couldn't get himself to not not mention USU or his time there, even though he didn't want to not be a douche

imanaggie · Post by **imanaggie** » March 30th, 2021, 12:46 pm

Man, the more I read about Craig Smith's pursuit of the Utah job (and I recognize most of it is being told through an Aggie lens) the more I think the guy is a flat out dick.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » March 30th, 2021, 1:05 pm

imanaggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 12:46 pm
Man, the more I read about Craig Smith's pursuit of the Utah job (and I recognize most of it is being told through an Aggie lens) the more I think the guy is a flat out dick.

Eh... JH's comments calmed me down a bit. Things happened fast, which was a surprise to everyone involved. Could have been handled better.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 30th, 2021, 1:44 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:46 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:36 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:11 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.
100% this - you know it.
Yip, the big red school down south is big on censorship. Smith will be told who he's allowed to talk to, what he's allowed to talk about, what he's allowed to say, what he's not allowed to say, what he's allowed to wear, who he's allowed to hire, who he's allowed to play, etc. but for a guaranteed 18 million it's well worth it.
Uddah: Here's $12 Million for six years, now STFU and do what we tell you!
Smith: Okay boss!

Pretty much. For anyone who says it isn't a rivalry, you know damn well Utah didn't want Smith praising USU at the press conference. I've watched my share of new coach press conferences and that was one of the worst as far as acknowledging and paying respect to your past job. I would bet money that came from the top. I'm sure Smith would have given a ton of praise to USU if he was a press conference at Minnesota.

TrueAggieman · Post by **TrueAggieman** » March 30th, 2021, 4:03 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 1:44 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 11:46 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:36 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:11 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
I wouldn't be shocked if Smith wasn't told to not talk about USU.
100% this - you know it.
Yip, the big red school down south is big on censorship. Smith will be told who he's allowed to talk to, what he's allowed to talk about, what he's allowed to say, what he's not allowed to say, what he's allowed to wear, who he's allowed to hire, who he's allowed to play, etc. but for a guaranteed 18 million it's well worth it.
Uddah: Here's $12 Million for six years, now STFU and do what we tell you!
Smith: Okay boss!
Pretty much. For anyone who says it isn't a rivalry, you know damn well Utah didn't want Smith praising USU at the press conference. I've watched my share of new coach press conferences and that was one of the worst as far as acknowledging and paying respect to your past job. I would bet money that came from the top. I'm sure Smith would have given a ton of praise to USU if he was a press conference at Minnesota.

The crazy thing to me is that he agreed to it. Knowing that I would not be allowed by my employer to say something kind and be respectful would be a major red flag for me. If you’re playing with my character and taking away my freedom to be cordial and humane, I don’t care how much you’re paying.

OGaggie23 · Post by **OGaggie23** » March 30th, 2021, 4:05 pm

Sean Barstow just retweeted a tweet advocating for Ragland to get the job

bill.george · Post by **bill.george** » March 30th, 2021, 4:11 pm

My impression was, he was happy to get the money but the enthusiasm for the job was not real.
He got a lot of money for a guy who is still looking for his first NCAA Tournament win. Utah got desperate and desperate people do desperate things.
My prediction he will be gone in three years and Utah will be right where they are today, again...

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osuaggie · Post by **osuaggie** » March 30th, 2021, 4:12 pm

OGaggie23 wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 4:05 pm
Sean Barstow just retweeted a tweet advocating for Ragland to get the job

So did McChesney

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » March 30th, 2021, 4:12 pm

bill.george wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 4:11 pm
My impression was, he was happy to get the money but the enthusiasm for the job was not real.
He got a lot of money for a guy who is still looking for his first NCAA Tournament win. Utah got desperate and desperate people do desperate things.
My prediction he will be gone in three years and Utah will be right where they are today, again...

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....hiring the coach that Hartwell will hire in the next 7 days

aggieguy13 · Post by **aggieguy13** » March 30th, 2021, 4:14 pm

Isn't Ragland the one who started trash-talking Musselman and staff in the handshake line after our win in 2019?

Because if he is, I'm all in.

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » March 30th, 2021, 4:31 pm

osuaggie wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 4:12 pm

OGaggie23 wrote: ↑
March 30th, 2021, 4:05 pm
Sean Barstow just retweeted a tweet advocating for Ragland to get the job
So did McChesney

Maybe the team should schedule a meeting with President Cockett on the matter.

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