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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by SpectrumMagic » March 27th, 2021, 12:34 am

ProvoAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:13 am
ustatesportsnut wrote:Its happening. Craig is off to Utah. Announcement tomorrow.
I really don't like this post. I had heard from some pretty connected people that there was no chance of it happening but ustatesportsnut has a pretty good track record of knowing things before others. Post history isn't long but most posts are insider info that ended up being true.

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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by stwinward » March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am

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March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
I vote for this being reality. At least I hope. And please, anywhere but Utah if and when he decides it's time to move on. OK, anywhere but in state.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by bluegrouse » March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am

Not gonna believe it until a much better source confirms it but I will be disappointed if he told his players specifically that he wasn’t going to Utah and then 5 days later takes the job.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Roy McAvoy » March 27th, 2021, 12:37 am

stwinward wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
OGaggie23 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
I vote for this being reality. At least I hope. And please, anywhere but Utah if and when he decides it's time to move on. OK, anywhere but in state.
It’s too bad the players had to find out via message board like this. Poor form on Smith’s part. I just got confirmation it’s happening.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2021, 12:37 am

OGaggie23 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
To tell his players that and turn around and do a contract right after would be pretty low on his part. If true my respect will have lowered for him.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by SpectrumMagic » March 27th, 2021, 12:39 am

OGaggie23 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
Utah could have put the full court press on. I can’t imagine them having it leaked a USU coach was their target and he turned them down they are to proud with deep pockets. If he is gone he probably landed a massive contract and if that’s the case I can’t blame him. As much as it would hurt but if it’s 4 million plus a year you’d be crazy to turn it down



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2021, 12:40 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:37 am
stwinward wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
OGaggie23 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
I vote for this being reality. At least I hope. And please, anywhere but Utah if and when he decides it's time to move on. OK, anywhere but in state.
It’s too bad the players had to find out via message board like this. Poor form on Smith’s part. I just got confirmation it’s happening.
Sucks to hear, but after hearing reports he was going to stay after not interviewing at Minnesota and then leave to a hated rival is douchey in my opinion.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Roy McAvoy » March 27th, 2021, 12:41 am

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March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
Not gonna believe it until a much better source confirms it but I will be disappointed if he told his players specifically that he wasn’t going to Utah and then 5 days later takes the job.
It’s legit. I had heard this would happen if Jensen turned down the job over a week ago. My posting history verifies this. I got hopeful when I saw all the hubbub on here that he wouldn’t take it. But I guess my Utah source was right after all.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2021, 12:43 am

SpectrumMagic wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:39 am
OGaggie23 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:33 am
Talked to players a couple minutes ago and they have told me that he is staying in logan. Like said before it’s possible a deal was made tonight and the team has not been made aware but as I’ve right now players were told by smith that we wants to go for a 4th in logan
Utah could have put the full court press on. I can’t imagine them having it leaked a USU coach was their target and he turned them down they are to proud with deep pockets. If he is gone he probably landed a massive contract and if that’s the case I can’t blame him. As much as it would hurt but if it’s 4 million plus a year you’d be crazy to turn it down
It is big money, but at the same time its not like he was in line at the cache valley food pantry or relying on the great value brand to get by. Hes making 3/4 of a million. It just sucks, but the program is bigger than 1 coach and we will be fine.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggie19 » March 27th, 2021, 12:44 am

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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by bluegrouse » March 27th, 2021, 12:46 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:41 am
bluegrouse wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
Not gonna believe it until a much better source confirms it but I will be disappointed if he told his players specifically that he wasn’t going to Utah and then 5 days later takes the job.
It’s legit. I had heard this would happen if Jensen turned down the job over a week ago. My posting history verifies this. I got hopeful when I saw all the hubbub on here that he wouldn’t take it. But I guess my Utah source was right after all.
Then why was Smith telling his players he wasn’t going anywhere 5 days ago.....
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by TrueBlueAggie123 » March 27th, 2021, 12:50 am

bluegrouse wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:41 am
bluegrouse wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
Not gonna believe it until a much better source confirms it but I will be disappointed if he told his players specifically that he wasn’t going to Utah and then 5 days later takes the job.
It’s legit. I had heard this would happen if Jensen turned down the job over a week ago. My posting history verifies this. I got hopeful when I saw all the hubbub on here that he wouldn’t take it. But I guess my Utah source was right after all.
Then why was Smith telling his players he wasn’t going anywhere 5 days ago.....
He probably didn’t have 2.5 million+ reasons to head down south yet.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by bluegrouse » March 27th, 2021, 12:56 am

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:50 am
bluegrouse wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:41 am
bluegrouse wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:36 am
Not gonna believe it until a much better source confirms it but I will be disappointed if he told his players specifically that he wasn’t going to Utah and then 5 days later takes the job.
It’s legit. I had heard this would happen if Jensen turned down the job over a week ago. My posting history verifies this. I got hopeful when I saw all the hubbub on here that he wouldn’t take it. But I guess my Utah source was right after all.
Then why was Smith telling his players he wasn’t going anywhere 5 days ago.....
He probably didn’t have 2.5 million+ reasons to head down south yet.
He had to know they were still gonna come after him and what the salary range might be. Anyway, nothing I can do about it but the combo of telling his players that he was staying and then going not just somewhere, but to that place, sure will take some shine off the Craig Smith era for me.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » March 27th, 2021, 1:09 am

BTW, is there any chance we could land Timmy Allen? Maybe Plummer as well?
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by stang » March 27th, 2021, 1:11 am

I'm still waiting to see it to believe it. I spoke with not just one, but multiple players and coaches this week who were all absolutely adamant that Craig is sticking around. The Utah job has been open for weeks, and it shouldn't come as a surprise that they came after him and offered him a huge paycheck. So in that case, why double down with your team that you're absolutely sticking around?

If there is any truth to this, he truly couldn't have handled the situation more poorly and I will have lost a lot of respect for him.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by TrueAggieman » March 27th, 2021, 1:13 am

I lose all respect for him if he leaves to coach at the University of Utah. I’m grateful for the hard work he put in and the success he had here, but I wish him all the worst when it comes to basketball in Salt Lake. I have been expecting him to leave and never bought into the narrative that he might be here long term, so had he gone anywhere other than BYU or U of U, I would’ve hoped for his success. Going to University of Utah?? I’ll never root for or respect him again. What a douchebag move (if true).
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Winning Team » March 27th, 2021, 1:14 am

stang wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 1:11 am
I'm still waiting to see it to believe it. I spoke with not just one, but multiple players and coaches this week who were all absolutely adamant that Craig is sticking around. The Utah job has been open for weeks, and it shouldn't come as a surprise that they came after him and offered him a huge paycheck. So in that case, why double down with your team that you're absolutely sticking around?

If there is any truth to this, he truly couldn't have handled the situation more poorly and I will have lost a lot of respect for him.
I have to agree with you here.

The only thing i see that could have happened is that it’s one thing to be asked to interview for a job and it’s another to just be given the job. If Utah came to him and said the job is his then that’s very different from a team asking him to interview.

Either way I think we have made it clear where the players and other coaches are at with this. So I agree, if this happens then I too will have lost a lot of respect for Craig.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by ineptimusprime » March 27th, 2021, 1:22 am

Boy, I hope this isn’t true. I’d be happy for Craig to go coach anywhere but U of U or BYU.

For me, it’d completely undermine the last three seasons.

But there are 2 million plus reasons this is probably true. There won’t be a meltdown from me. I absolutely hate it if ends up being true, but I understand it.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by TrueAggieman » March 27th, 2021, 1:32 am

Like maybe because we haven’t been playing them people are forgetting, but guys this isn’t ok lol. This is f****** U of U we are talking about. I can’t sleep 😂
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Intermeddler » March 27th, 2021, 2:15 am

bigblue32 wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:14 am
ProvoAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 12:13 am
ustatesportsnut wrote:Its happening. Craig is off to Utah. Announcement tomorrow.
I really don't like this post. I had heard from some pretty connected people that there was no chance of it happening but ustatesportsnut has a pretty good track record of knowing things before others. Post history isn't long but most posts are insider info that ended up being true.

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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Intermeddler » March 27th, 2021, 2:18 am

From what I’ve heard expect Peterson to follow Craig if he leaves and Tim Miles to be our next coach FWIW.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Real Life Aggie » March 27th, 2021, 2:33 am

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Really disappointing that after all the good work he did here the best he could do was a middling program in the 6th best power conference. Hopefully this job isn't a dead end job for him, he's got a lot of potential.
Agreed. If he leaves, he leaves, and I wish him well. Too bad he would be going to a mediocre program.

On the other hand, the Utes recruit a lot of good talent. Maybe if they actually had a competent coach, they'd be able to do something with it.



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Post by OrangeCountyAggie » March 27th, 2021, 2:35 am

If I were Mark Harlin after Jensen, Bryant AND Smith turns me down; my next phone call would be to Houston Rockets Assistant Jeff Hornacek. He's a "big name" guy and the type of player's coach that might play well in college. I'd give him a look IF our coaching job ever opened up as well.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by bluegrouse » March 27th, 2021, 2:40 am

Intermeddler wrote:
March 27th, 2021, 2:18 am
From what I’ve heard expect Peterson to follow Craig if he leaves and Tim Miles to be our next coach FWIW.
He’s got a pretty good track record but I’m not too excited by the prospect of Tim Miles. I’d rather hire someone who has been coaching and winning the last two years.



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Post by coolag » March 27th, 2021, 5:39 am

Please no on Miles
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggiesbleedblue » March 27th, 2021, 5:48 am

Joe Pasternack would be my top candidate to replace Craig



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Post by aggiesdotcom » March 27th, 2021, 5:50 am

I am grateful for what Craig Smith has done here in three short years. It will be strange to cheer for him to fail at the U. The question is, will he have the integrity to renew the Utah State vs Utah basketball rivalry?



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by aggiesdotcom » March 27th, 2021, 5:55 am

And every time he messes up Evan Washburn’s hair and shouts “Go Utes!” Into the camera, it will be particularly painful.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by Aggiesbleedblue » March 27th, 2021, 5:57 am

aggiesdotcom wrote:
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And every time he messes up Evan Washburn’s hair and shouts “Go Utes!” Into the camera, it will be particularly painful.
Good thing half of his games will be on Pac-12 Network so we won’t have to see that
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by AGGIEinIOWA » March 27th, 2021, 6:07 am

I think Miles would be a slam dunk hire. The guy has over-achieved everywhere he’s been. Nebraska has fallen back off the map since he left there and he was part way through a nice rebuild job at CSU before that. He helped NDSU transition to D1 before that and knocked off some big boys in the process. He is a small town guy like Craig and has a fun personality too. Many of the coaches in his coaching tree have done really well for themselves. Not sure why all the Tim Miles hate. We’d be lucky to get someone with his experience and track record and it’s not like he is really old or anything.



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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 27th, 2021, 6:11 am

If Smith were to take that Utah job it’s strictly for a payday because that is a dumpster fire right now that 2 former Utes refused to take over. Their best player just entered the transfer portal. It’s the living embodiment of the age old juvenile “would you eat a piece of crap for a million dollars?” question.
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Post by aggiesdotcom » March 27th, 2021, 6:18 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
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If Smith were to take that Utah job it’s strictly for a payday because that is a dumpster fire right now that 2 former Utes refused to take over. Their best player just entered the transfer portal. It’s the living embodiment of the age old juvenile “would you eat a piece of crap for a million dollars?” question.
Yes.
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Re: Just here for the meltdown

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 27th, 2021, 6:58 am

If it's true, I hope he fails spectacularly. I doubt it'll happen, but a guy can hope.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 27th, 2021, 7:08 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
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If it's true, I hope he fails spectacularly. I doubt it'll happen, but a guy can hope.
Sure. Just follow the rooting rules:
1- Aggies first and foremost
2- Any opponent of BYU
3- Any opponent of Utah (exception rule #2)
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