The ironic thing was that in 2004

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The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by GameFAQSAggie » March 23rd, 2021, 10:25 pm

and we were snubbed was when we had the most position to argue that we deserved in based on past tournament performances, with our most recent performances were the win over Ohio State and 3 point loss to national runner-up Kansas. But then we did get at-large bids in 2006, 2010 and this year with those performances further and further in the past and years of bad first round losses becoming more recent. That just goes to show that the committee does NOT consider past performances with giving bids.

That said, the way we all hate seeing .500 P5 teams get bids over teams that finish at the top of G5 conferences, it hurts our(as in, all of G5 conferences) cause that teams that finish in lower halves of conferences in Oregon State, Syracuse and UCLA making runs.



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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 24th, 2021, 10:28 am

Oregon State got in as the tournament champ. UCLA was 13-6 in the Pac 12. Only a game out of first in the win column. They actually were pretty unfairly seeded as an 11, so maybe it worked out for the best that they got an overseeded 6 seed and Abilene Christian as their games to get to the Sweet Sixteen.
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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by ViAggie » March 24th, 2021, 11:45 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 10:28 am
Oregon State got in as the tournament champ. UCLA was 13-6 in the Pac 12. Only a game out of first in the win column. They actually were pretty unfairly seeded as an 11, so maybe it worked out for the best that they got an overseeded 6 seed and Abilene Christian as their games to get to the Sweet Sixteen.
PAC 12 is reppen, too bad they already had one PAC team knocked out by another or you might have had 5 PAC's in the SS... :lol:
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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by Usu0505 » March 24th, 2021, 11:49 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote:and we were snubbed was when we had the most position to argue that we deserved in based on past tournament performances, with our most recent performances were the win over Ohio State and 3 point loss to national runner-up Kansas. But then we did get at-large bids in 2006, 2010 and this year with those performances further and further in the past and years of bad first round losses becoming more recent. That just goes to show that the committee does NOT consider past performances with giving bids.

That said, the way we all hate seeing .500 P5 teams get bids over teams that finish at the top of G5 conferences, it hurts our(as in, all of G5 conferences) cause that teams that finish in lower halves of conferences in Oregon State, Syracuse and UCLA making runs.
It would be stupid to consider past performance when making decisions of who goes to the tournament. Just because this years team couldn’t do it, doesn’t mean next years team couldn’t end up being the Cinderella darling.


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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by sam tingey » March 24th, 2021, 12:09 pm

ViAggie wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 11:45 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 10:28 am
Oregon State got in as the tournament champ. UCLA was 13-6 in the Pac 12. Only a game out of first in the win column. They actually were pretty unfairly seeded as an 11, so maybe it worked out for the best that they got an overseeded 6 seed and Abilene Christian as their games to get to the Sweet Sixteen.
PAC 12 is reppen, too bad they already had one PAC team knocked out by another or you might have had 5 PAC's in the SS... :lol:
Colorado was knocked out by FLA ST. It's this weekend that oregon and USC go at it for a spot on the elite 8



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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by AggiePT » March 24th, 2021, 12:49 pm

Usu0505 wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 11:49 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:and we were snubbed was when we had the most position to argue that we deserved in based on past tournament performances, with our most recent performances were the win over Ohio State and 3 point loss to national runner-up Kansas. But then we did get at-large bids in 2006, 2010 and this year with those performances further and further in the past and years of bad first round losses becoming more recent. That just goes to show that the committee does NOT consider past performances with giving bids.

That said, the way we all hate seeing .500 P5 teams get bids over teams that finish at the top of G5 conferences, it hurts our(as in, all of G5 conferences) cause that teams that finish in lower halves of conferences in Oregon State, Syracuse and UCLA making runs.
It would be stupid to consider past performance when making decisions of who goes to the tournament. Just because this years team couldn’t do it, doesn’t mean next years team couldn’t end up being the Cinderella darling.


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Plus team players, coaches, and cultures change regularly. Doesn't make since to use past experience.



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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 24th, 2021, 1:17 pm

sam tingey wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 12:09 pm
ViAggie wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 11:45 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 10:28 am
Oregon State got in as the tournament champ. UCLA was 13-6 in the Pac 12. Only a game out of first in the win column. They actually were pretty unfairly seeded as an 11, so maybe it worked out for the best that they got an overseeded 6 seed and Abilene Christian as their games to get to the Sweet Sixteen.
PAC 12 is reppen, too bad they already had one PAC team knocked out by another or you might have had 5 PAC's in the SS... :lol:
Colorado was knocked out by FLA ST. It's this weekend that oregon and USC go at it for a spot on the elite 8
I like that there is a region with 4 teams all west of the Mississippi, and 3 that are true western teams. That doesn't happen every year.
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Re: The ironic thing was that in 2004

Post by kofdog » March 24th, 2021, 3:50 pm

AggiePT wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 12:49 pm
Usu0505 wrote:
March 24th, 2021, 11:49 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:and we were snubbed was when we had the most position to argue that we deserved in based on past tournament performances, with our most recent performances were the win over Ohio State and 3 point loss to national runner-up Kansas. But then we did get at-large bids in 2006, 2010 and this year with those performances further and further in the past and years of bad first round losses becoming more recent. That just goes to show that the committee does NOT consider past performances with giving bids.

That said, the way we all hate seeing .500 P5 teams get bids over teams that finish at the top of G5 conferences, it hurts our(as in, all of G5 conferences) cause that teams that finish in lower halves of conferences in Oregon State, Syracuse and UCLA making runs.
It would be stupid to consider past performance when making decisions of who goes to the tournament. Just because this years team couldn’t do it, doesn’t mean next years team couldn’t end up being the Cinderella darling.


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Plus team players, coaches, and cultures change regularly. Doesn't make since to use past experience.
You're right, it doesn't make sense....but it sure seems to be the way things work. Once Gonzaga had their first cinderalla run, they have always seemed to get the benefit if the doubt in seedings.



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