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Post by aggies22 » January 19th, 2021, 3:03 pm

I'm trying to confirm but I'm hearing he went home.
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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm

Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.



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Re: Zahar Vedishev

Post by slcagg » January 19th, 2021, 3:11 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:03 pm
I'm trying to confirm but I'm hearing he went home.
Not surprised. His demeanor on the bench recently was forth telling. Best wishes to him.
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Post by Yossarian » January 19th, 2021, 3:12 pm

I have to imagine it is very tough to be away from friends and family. Compound this with the frustration of not getting meaningful minutes, and it is easy to understand why one would want to break it off. Not many freshman see meaningful minutes - I wonder if Smith & Co. sat him down to lay out the next three years' worth of plans for the team and Vedischev and he wasn't on board? Still tough to see any Aggie leave. Hopefully he finds a chance to play back home, if the news is true.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » January 19th, 2021, 3:17 pm

I was super big on Zahar. Sad to see that he's out, but I wish the best for him and his development. Maybe he'll thrive in a different system than Coach Smith's.
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Re: Zahar Vedishev

Post by Aglicious » January 19th, 2021, 3:36 pm

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January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.
Yeah, good luck to Z. At least he will leave us with the Aggie lore of the Russian Rocket Launcher. Best foreign nickname since Thoseberry.

BTW, I won't be surprised if none of the 3 Euro's recruited this past year finish their career as an Aggie. I'm not sure which staff member hit up the teenage European national team scene so hard this past season but I think they were clouded by visions of future Quetas dancing in their heads.
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Post by aggieguy13 » January 19th, 2021, 3:47 pm

I hate it when missions end early :cry:
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Post by ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN » January 19th, 2021, 3:51 pm

Awesome. Now use his schollie to find the next Neemi.



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Post by OKAggie » January 19th, 2021, 3:55 pm

Z's no longer on the roster. Do svidaniya, Zahar...
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Re: Zahar Vedishev

Post by slcagg » January 19th, 2021, 3:59 pm

Aglicious wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:36 pm
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January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.
Yeah, good luck to Z. At least he will leave us with the Aggie lore of the Russian Rocket Launcher. Best foreign nickname since Thoseberry.

BTW, I won't be surprised if none of the 3 Euro's recruited this past year finish their career as an Aggie. I'm not sure which staff member hit up the teenage European national team scene so hard this past season but I think they were clouded by visions of future Quetas dancing in their heads.
Have some faith and patience my friend. Craig has really been talking up shulga and zapala. He did not do that with vedischev.
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Post by AggieFBObsession » January 19th, 2021, 4:07 pm

My thoughts exactly slcagg
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Post by jpswensen » January 19th, 2021, 4:26 pm

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Have some faith and patience my friend. Craig has really been talking up shulga and zapala. He did not do that with vedischev.
I don't purport to be an evaluator of talent, nor even play one on TV, but the few minutes I have seen Zapala play, I have liked what I have seen. He isn't going to be a freshman impact player like Queta, but I also think that he is the kind of guy that coupled with 4 years of Ashworth and Worster will be a solid big.


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Re: Zahar Vedishev

Post by NVAggie » January 19th, 2021, 4:39 pm

Zahar wasn't very good. He was a chucker. I believe he would be best on the BYU roster. Zapala has some talents, but he is a turnover machine. His high rate of turnovers is only eclipsed by his ability to foul. It will be a long process to make him serviceable. Shulga seems like a typical timid Freshman. We shall see with him.



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Re: Zahar Vedishev

Post by Real Life Aggie » January 19th, 2021, 4:45 pm

NVAggie wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 4:39 pm
Zahar wasn't very good. He was a chucker. I believe he would be best on the BYU roster. Zapala has some talents, but he is a turnover machine. His high rate of turnovers is only eclipsed by his ability to foul. It will be a long process to make him serviceable. Shulga seems like a typical timid Freshman. We shall see with him.
Some damning generalizations based off of limited minutes. We had more data when people were calling for Marco to never see the floor again.



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Post by LKGates » January 19th, 2021, 5:03 pm

Aglicious wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:36 pm
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January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.
Yeah, good luck to Z. At least he will leave us with the Aggie lore of the Russian Rocket Launcher. Best foreign nickname since Thoseberry.

BTW, I won't be surprised if none of the 3 Euro's recruited this past year finish their career as an Aggie. I'm not sure which staff member hit up the teenage European national team scene so hard this past season but I think they were clouded by visions of future Quetas dancing in their heads.
Portugal has worked out pretty well for us. Not just Queta, but Brito as well. I'm volunteering to be the full time Aggie recruiter in Portugal. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. For the team.
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Post by coolag » January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm

IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.



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Post by aggies22 » January 19th, 2021, 5:09 pm

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January 19th, 2021, 4:39 pm
Zahar wasn't very good. He was a chucker. I believe he would be best on the BYU roster. Zapala has some talents, but he is a turnover machine. His high rate of turnovers is only eclipsed by his ability to foul. It will be a long process to make him serviceable. Shulga seems like a typical timid Freshman. We shall see with him.
Zahar is actually VERY, VERY talented but he's always been the best player on every team he's been on. I believe he really struggled with being a team first guy.
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Post by aggies22 » January 19th, 2021, 5:09 pm

LKGates wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:03 pm
Aglicious wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:36 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.
Yeah, good luck to Z. At least he will leave us with the Aggie lore of the Russian Rocket Launcher. Best foreign nickname since Thoseberry.

BTW, I won't be surprised if none of the 3 Euro's recruited this past year finish their career as an Aggie. I'm not sure which staff member hit up the teenage European national team scene so hard this past season but I think they were clouded by visions of future Quetas dancing in their heads.
Portugal has worked out pretty well for us. Not just Queta, but Brito as well. I'm volunteering to be the full time Aggie recruiter in Portugal. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. For the team.
Thank you for your generosity my Aggie brother.
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Post by NVAggie » January 19th, 2021, 5:38 pm

I hope I am wrong. Just my opinion.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » January 19th, 2021, 6:32 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:09 pm
NVAggie wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 4:39 pm
Zahar wasn't very good. He was a chucker. I believe he would be best on the BYU roster. Zapala has some talents, but he is a turnover machine. His high rate of turnovers is only eclipsed by his ability to foul. It will be a long process to make him serviceable. Shulga seems like a typical timid Freshman. We shall see with him.
Zahar is actually VERY, VERY talented but he's always been the best player on every team he's been on. I believe he really struggled with being a team first guy.
Idk 22, we've seen enough with the 5 minutes of PT that we can make a definitive, knee-jerk call, despite the numerous times you've told us otherwise.
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Post by bluegrouse » January 19th, 2021, 6:51 pm

Yossarian wrote:
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I have to imagine it is very tough to be away from friends and family. Compound this with the frustration of not getting meaningful minutes, and it is easy to understand why one would want to break it off. Not many freshman see meaningful minutes - I wonder if Smith & Co. sat him down to lay out the next three years' worth of plans for the team and Vedischev and he wasn't on board? Still tough to see any Aggie leave. Hopefully he finds a chance to play back home, if the news is true.
Plus the COViD crap that has eliminated much of what makes it fun to be in college right now. Must make it difficult on all levels. I wish him well.
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Post by NewUSUfan » January 19th, 2021, 8:11 pm

aggies22 wrote:
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I'm trying to confirm but I'm hearing he went home.
He left after last weekend.
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Post by ineptimusprime » January 19th, 2021, 10:14 pm

I am glad we have a scholarship to give to someone else now. We need a defensive minded big badly, because Queta is going to the NBA.



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Post by bwcrc » January 20th, 2021, 9:10 am

Aglicious wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 3:36 pm
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January 19th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Awww man, my kids and I would look forward to him going in for some garbage time and guessing how many 3’s he could launch in limited minutes.

In all seriousness, I hate to see any Aggie career end like this. I don’t much blame him for leaving though. As the season wore on the less chance I saw of him contributing this year ... and fitting into the long term vision of a Craig Smith team.
Yeah, good luck to Z. At least he will leave us with the Aggie lore of the Russian Rocket Launcher. Best foreign nickname since Thoseberry.

BTW, I won't be surprised if none of the 3 Euro's recruited this past year finish their career as an Aggie. I'm not sure which staff member hit up the teenage European national team scene so hard this past season but I think they were clouded by visions of future Quetas dancing in their heads.
IIRC, Gonzaga relied heavily on international players to really kickstart their run that started 20 years or so ago. Gonzaga no longer has to rely as heavily on international players to maintain its success. Not a bad way to build a program, but to be successful it will require Coach Smith to hang around for a few years to generate enough excitement and respect to draw in US players.



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Post by Aggie84025 » January 20th, 2021, 9:54 am

Good luck to him in his future endeavors. Hopefully we can use the scholarship to get an impact player for next year.



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm

coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
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Post by AggiePT » January 21st, 2021, 9:29 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
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Post by 2004AG » January 21st, 2021, 9:36 am

AggiePT wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
Queta?

Who else has he “recognized” and then “maximized” ?


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Post by Donman » January 21st, 2021, 9:39 am

2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2021, 9:36 am
AggiePT wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
Queta?

Who else has he “recognized” and then “maximized” ?


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Post by Bank Shot » January 21st, 2021, 9:48 am

2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2021, 9:36 am
AggiePT wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
Queta?

Who else has he “recognized” and then “maximized” ?

I'd add Bean, Brito and Porter to the list. Not recruits but he saw the talent and maximized it.


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Post by Madmartigan » January 21st, 2021, 9:50 am

2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2021, 9:36 am
AggiePT wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
Queta?

Who else has he “recognized” and then “maximized” ?


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Thus far the trajectories for Worster and Ashworth are pretty positive. He essentially took the very same team TD couldn't win with that was projected to finish 8th, added Queta, and won the tourney twice. Porter improved with him as a coach, Merrill improved with him as a coach, as did Brito (vastly). Quinn Taylor got a lot better. Queta has gotten better as well.

While I don't know how these Euros will pan out, I think Smith does a fantastic job of getting the most out of his players.
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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » January 21st, 2021, 9:53 am

Madmartigan wrote:
January 21st, 2021, 9:50 am
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2021, 9:36 am
AggiePT wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
January 20th, 2021, 4:10 pm
coolag wrote:
January 19th, 2021, 5:08 pm
IMO those hoping or counting on Zapala to be any kind of consistent contributor are going to be very disappointed.
That includes Smith then cause in his own words Zapala “is going to be a star”.
Smith has made a living off of recognizing potential and then maximizing it. I'm going to side with Coach on this one.
Queta?

Who else has he “recognized” and then “maximized” ?


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Thus far the trajectories for Worster and Ashworth are pretty positive. He essentially took the very same team TD couldn't win with that was projected to finish 8th, added Queta, and won the tourney twice. Porter improved with him as a coach, Merrill improved with him as a coach, as did Brito (vastly). Quinn Taylor got a lot better. Queta has gotten better as well.

While I don't know how these Euros will pan out, I think Smith does a fantastic job of getting the most out of his players.
Smith's utilization/development of Bean shouldn't go underappreciated as with Dorius. Most coaches wouldn't even give a walk-on much of an opportunity to prove themselves. Smith has also shown great patience with Miller in the past and it is paying off this year. Some coaches may have moved on and tried to chase transfers and recruit over him. I think he is taking the same approach with Bairstow and we will likely see him take a big step as his career moves forward as well.
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Post by NVAggie » January 21st, 2021, 9:54 am

This is kind of reminding me of Jaycee graduating. The next few years were even better.



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Post by dogie » January 21st, 2021, 10:17 am

I’ll start by saying that I think Zahar has some talent and I enjoyed seeing him play in a few games.

He finished his Aggie career at 3-for-11 from three and 4-for-13 overall in 21 total minutes. That is some volume shooting. It’s also a lot of effort to come halfway around the world to play half a game.

To put these numbers in perspective, this is an average number (21) of three point shots per 40 minutes that’s over 2.3 times more than Brock Miller’s.



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