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Re: Meet the new guys

Post by NewUSUfan » October 21st, 2020, 8:36 am

slcagg wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 12:10 pm
Great write up. Thank you.

So Anderson is playing on the wing?

How long is Marco out?

What’s your guess as far as depth chart?
Same as last year the 3/4 combo. I think it will be matchup based.

Not long.

Still early in the game but like I said. Bairstow and Worster are pushing for starting spots or at least lots of PT. Wouldn't be surprised if one of them started.
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Post by Real Life Aggie » October 21st, 2020, 10:47 am

NewUSUfan wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 8:30 am
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October 16th, 2020, 12:38 pm
@NewUSUfan,

Where do you think Kuba fits in this coming year?
I would be surprised if Kuba sees much time.
Agree on this, but man he is a mountain of a man.
He's pretty tall, but he's lanky. Seeing him set screens for PnR worries me that he doesn't have the weight to back up his towering physique.



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Post by OrangeCountyAggie » October 21st, 2020, 12:04 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 10:47 am
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October 21st, 2020, 8:30 am
aggies22 wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 5:39 pm
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October 16th, 2020, 12:38 pm
@NewUSUfan,

Where do you think Kuba fits in this coming year?
I would be surprised if Kuba sees much time.
Agree on this, but man he is a mountain of a man.
He's pretty tall, but he's lanky. Seeing him set screens for PnR worries me that he doesn't have the weight to back up his towering physique.
He's still raw but we saw flashes of ability stepping in for Queta early last season. I hope he gets more developmental time and the coaches don't give up on him. Assuming he sticks around, he COULD be a spot contributor this year and a major asset next season. He's bigger and more talented than Dorius, he just needs to put it together and be more aggressive. Guys his size are not easy to find.



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Re: Meet the new guys

Post by aggies22 » October 21st, 2020, 12:38 pm

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Is there a reason to redshirt anyone since this year doesn’t count against eligibility?
There is zero reason to redshirt anyone. The rotation will work itself out as time goes on. But everyone will be 100% available all season long.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » October 21st, 2020, 12:43 pm

aggies22 wrote:
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Is there a reason to redshirt anyone since this year doesn’t count against eligibility?
There is zero reason to redshirt anyone. The rotation will work itself out as time goes on. But everyone will be 100% available all season long.
Might as well (right?) if eligibility won't be affected. Seems like it would make for a... competitive team dynamic, as everyone will have all year to step up and get into their places.
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Post by OKAggie » October 21st, 2020, 7:41 pm

aggies22 wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 12:38 pm
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October 16th, 2020, 7:38 pm
Is there a reason to redshirt anyone since this year doesn’t count against eligibility?
There is zero reason to redshirt anyone. The rotation will work itself out as time goes on. But everyone will be 100% available all season long.
I propose the use of all 15 players, in three lines, hockey style. Five man subsitutions every media time out. :joking:

Blue line: Queta, McChesney, Shulga, Bairstow, Worster
White line: Karwowski, Zapala, Miller, Vedischev, Anthony
Pewter line: Dorius, Anderson, Bean, Stastny, Ashworth
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Post by AggiesForever » October 22nd, 2020, 8:18 am

Anthony will be your starting point guard on any line you want to put out there. And look at McChesney as a 3 with stretch 4 capabilities. He is definitely a 3 skill wise.
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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » October 22nd, 2020, 8:36 am

OKAggie wrote:
aggies22 wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 12:38 pm
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October 16th, 2020, 7:38 pm
Is there a reason to redshirt anyone since this year doesn’t count against eligibility?
There is zero reason to redshirt anyone. The rotation will work itself out as time goes on. But everyone will be 100% available all season long.
I propose the use of all 15 players, in three lines, hockey style. Five man subsitutions every media time out. :joking:

Blue line: Queta, McChesney, Shulga, Bairstow, Worster
White line: Karwowski, Zapala, Miller, Vedischev, Anthony
Pewter line: Dorius, Anderson, Bean, Stastny, Ashworth
I believe you just suggested we use the Grinnell System. It just might work.

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Post by Pacobag » October 22nd, 2020, 1:36 pm

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the new guys will be solid. Over the past few months, various comments leave me guessing on who will become the primary contributors.

Barring any injuries, I tend to think Queta/Bean/Anthony/Miller will be starters to begin the season. Who will be the 5th?

Will the coaching staff give Miller as many minutes as they gave him the past two seasons or will other players move ahead of him?



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Post by Coloraggie » October 22nd, 2020, 2:26 pm

If Miller plays like he has the last two years I hope there are players who move ahead of him. Ideally the other guys are great but Miller improves enough that he stays ahead of the other guys. Unless the other players are disasters then for Miller to stay on the court I would think he needs to hit 40% + of his 3-pointers while being able to shoot 5+ in a game. No more 1-13 every other night. Not less important I think he needs to have a better overall game including some rebounding, a few assists and better defense. Last year he seemed to be a shooter only and a bad one at that, shooting better will be the key but he needs to be a complete player as well. Without these I can see him only getting time at the end of the game when the other team will obviously foul immediately as he is a great FT shooter.
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Post by Pacobag » October 22nd, 2020, 10:20 pm

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If Miller plays like he has the last two years I hope there are players who move ahead of him. Ideally the other guys are great but Miller improves enough that he stays ahead of the other guys. Unless the other players are disasters then for Miller to stay on the court I would think he needs to hit 40% + of his 3-pointers while being able to shoot 5+ in a game. No more 1-13 every other night. Not less important I think he needs to have a better overall game including some rebounding, a few assists and better defense. Last year he seemed to be a shooter only and a bad one at that, shooting better will be the key but he needs to be a complete player as well. Without these I can see him only getting time at the end of the game when the other team will obviously foul immediately as he is a great FT shooter.
Good assessment. I hope the new guys are great and Miller has a breakout season.



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Post by BLUERUFiO » October 23rd, 2020, 8:54 pm

I think Miller is a better defender than he gets credit for. He puts it out there IMO. But, I do hope he gets less PT.


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Post by utaggies » October 23rd, 2020, 10:55 pm

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I think Miller is a better defender than he gets credit for. He puts it out there IMO. But, I do hope he gets less PT.
Miller’s lateral speed as well as his quickness seem slow to me. He doesn’t seem to be able to stay in front of his man.



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Post by 2004AG » October 23rd, 2020, 11:02 pm

BLUERUFiO wrote:I think Miller is a better defender than he gets credit for. He puts it out there IMO. But, I do hope he gets less PT.
Like sit in the bench unless up by 50 PT.


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Post by Real Life Aggie » October 24th, 2020, 9:46 pm

I'm not sure I've ever seen Miller not give it his all. Not to draw the ire of some of his vocal "he's amazing at defense" supporters, but even rewatching the '18-19 games, announcers will call out that some other guard will try to blow past him because he can't stay in front of them.

I was very outspoken about my frustrations with him last season. Given time to consider and reflect on him and his role, I've accepted some things. He's not going to be a defensive superstar, and he's going to get beat by more athletic guards. While anything he can do to improve in this facet is welcome news, it's not a matter of being lazy or not trying. I really don't recall a time when I've seen him be lazy or complacent. I'd like to see him settle into that 3-pt specialist role. He plays well defensively, but what we need out of him is offense. With other guards in the mix now (esp. this year!), hopefully that'll help him even things out and he'll settle into a good 40% 3-pt groove.



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Post by Aggie84025 » October 24th, 2020, 10:27 pm

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I'm not sure I've ever seen Miller not give it his all. Not to draw the ire of some of his vocal "he's amazing at defense" supporters, but even rewatching the '18-19 games, announcers will call out that some other guard will try to blow past him because he can't stay in front of them.

I was very outspoken about my frustrations with him last season. Given time to consider and reflect on him and his role, I've accepted some things. He's not going to be a defensive superstar, and he's going to get beat by more athletic guards. While anything he can do to improve in this facet is welcome news, it's not a matter of being lazy or not trying. I really don't recall a time when I've seen him be lazy or complacent. I'd like to see him settle into that 3-pt specialist role. He plays well defensively, but what we need out of him is offense. With other guards in the mix now (esp. this year!), hopefully that'll help him even things out and he'll settle into a good 40% 3-pt groove.
I agree, he is never going to be the best defender, but he certainly tries his hardest. He is a decent defender. I hope he can get his 3 point shooting on track. If he can shoot ~40% and make 2-3 a game will be huge for the team.



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Post by ineptimusprime » October 25th, 2020, 8:22 am

Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
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Post by 2004AG » October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am

ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.


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Post by ineptimusprime » October 25th, 2020, 5:33 pm

2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Post by brownjeans » October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Well, both Fonz and Bairstow were more efficient.
Miller may have been the least efficient starter in all of D1 college basketball last year. Not meaning to pile on, but his stats were undeniably bad last year.
I hope he has a better year. But if he doesn't, I hope we bring him off the bench.



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Post by 2004AG » October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Almost anybody.

But the bigger problem is Smith should have recruited over him.


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Post by nswaggie » October 25th, 2020, 9:32 pm

2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Almost anybody.

But the bigger problem is Smith should have recruited over him.


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Brock spreads the floor, and I truly believe this is why Smith likes him so much. Ya I get it that his percentage was down, but he put enough on tape that most opposing coaches did not want to give him clean looks. All coaches know a game can get away quickly if someone gets hot from 3. When he was out there he stretched the floor and helped create lanes despite his bad percentage. I understand all the sentiments about him, but I do think he is undervalued by some of the fan base, and I definitely believe it is too early to give up on him. I do think that he sometimes puts too much arc and velocity on his shots and that contributes to his lower percentage. I hope he can fix whatever is wrong with his shot (perhaps mostly confidence) and have a better season. We need him to be a 3pt specialist.
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Post by 2004AG » October 25th, 2020, 10:39 pm

nswaggie wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Almost anybody.

But the bigger problem is Smith should have recruited over him.


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Brock spreads the floor, and I truly believe this is why Smith likes him so much. Ya I get it that his percentage was down, but he put enough on tape that most opposing coaches did not want to give him clean looks. All coaches know a game can get away quickly if someone gets hot from 3. When he was out there he stretched the floor and helped create lanes despite his bad percentage. I understand all the sentiments about him, but I do think he is undervalued by some of the fan base, and I definitely believe it is too early to give up on him. I do think that he sometimes puts too much arc and velocity on his shots and that contributes to his lower percentage. I hope he can fix whatever is wrong with his shot (perhaps mostly confidence) and have a better season. We need him to be a 3pt specialist.
I get that’s the “theory” of using Miller but opposing coaches aren’t stupid. There’s no reason to play him tight on the perimeter when he can’t shoot.


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Post by utaggies » October 25th, 2020, 11:32 pm

nswaggie wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 9:32 pm
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Almost anybody.

But the bigger problem is Smith should have recruited over him.


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Brock spreads the floor, and I truly believe this is why Smith likes him so much. Ya I get it that his percentage was down, but he put enough on tape that most opposing coaches did not want to give him clean looks. All coaches know a game can get away quickly if someone gets hot from 3. When he was out there he stretched the floor and helped create lanes despite his bad percentage. I understand all the sentiments about him, but I do think he is undervalued by some of the fan base, and I definitely believe it is too early to give up on him. I do think that he sometimes puts too much arc and velocity on his shots and that contributes to his lower percentage. I hope he can fix whatever is wrong with his shot (perhaps mostly confidence) and have a better season. We need him to be a 3pt specialist.
A 3-point specialist is what he is now. Only there is nothing special about his 3-pointers. You can only spread the floor if other teams believe you can hit an outside shot. Otherwise it will be Queta facing double teams with our opponents daring Brock to hit a shot.

Miller has no versatility. He has no defense. He can’t create his own shot. He can’t rebound and he can’t score off the dribble. His only benefit is to hit three pointers, which last year he only seemed to be able to do against bad teams or in games we lost. We need him to be Mr. October instead of Mr. May. I hope he is able to do so.



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Post by OrangeCountyAggie » October 26th, 2020, 12:24 pm

utaggies wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 11:32 pm
nswaggie wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 9:32 pm
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 8:39 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
2004AG wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 10:05 am
ineptimusprime wrote:Brock is much more maligned than he should be. He has been a starter on two very good Aggie teams. All I expect him to be able to do is hit open 3 pointers (which I know he can do even though he didn’t do it last year all the time) and play team defense.

Here’s my hot take — I think we’ll see a big leap from Miller this year in terms of his consistency, and he’ll be a big part of the reason we qualify for the NCAA tourney for the third year in a row.
He was a starter on two good Aggie teams, but he shouldn’t have been. Those teams were good in spite of him.

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Who should have started over Brock last year?
Almost anybody.

But the bigger problem is Smith should have recruited over him.


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Brock spreads the floor, and I truly believe this is why Smith likes him so much. Ya I get it that his percentage was down, but he put enough on tape that most opposing coaches did not want to give him clean looks. All coaches know a game can get away quickly if someone gets hot from 3. When he was out there he stretched the floor and helped create lanes despite his bad percentage. I understand all the sentiments about him, but I do think he is undervalued by some of the fan base, and I definitely believe it is too early to give up on him. I do think that he sometimes puts too much arc and velocity on his shots and that contributes to his lower percentage. I hope he can fix whatever is wrong with his shot (perhaps mostly confidence) and have a better season. We need him to be a 3pt specialist.
A 3-point specialist is what he is now. Only there is nothing special about his 3-pointers. You can only spread the floor if other teams believe you can hit an outside shot. Otherwise it will be Queta facing double teams with our opponents daring Brock to hit a shot.

Miller has no versatility. He has no defense. He can’t create his own shot. He can’t rebound and he can’t score off the dribble. His only benefit is to hit three pointers, which last year he only seemed to be able to do against bad teams or in games we lost. We need him to be Mr. October instead of Mr. May. I hope he is able to do so.
And he couldn't defend a chair! To add to your point, no one guarded him all that closely last year. He was missing wide-open looks. What drove me crazy though is when he'd pull up and launch (and miss) a three when he had a wide-open layup or passing opportunity. Because he's a vet, he'll probably get a good chunk of minutes early in the year but there's too much guard/wing talent on this year's team for that to last long IMO.



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Post by bwcrc » October 26th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Miller is one of our highest-rated recruits ever and he did something to gain that rating, so I get Smith giving him a chance for a chunk of last season. We have also seen Smith be willing to bench a starter mid-season (Porter over Ainge).

I would not be surprised if part of the reason Smith stayed with Miller last year was by the time he realized Miller was a bad shooter last year and not just in a slump is that it was too deep into the season to make much of a roster change and no one else would do much better with the lineups he wanted to run. And we were still successful as a team despite Miller's struggles.

This year I expect Smith to give Miller a chance early to show his in-game shooting has drastically improved over last year. If not, I fully anticipate Smith will increase minutes for others to give them a chance while pulling back on Miller.
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Re: Meet the new guys

Post by ProvoAggie » October 26th, 2020, 3:29 pm

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October 26th, 2020, 1:56 pm
We have also seen Smith be willing to bench a starter mid-season (Porter over Ainge).
Ainge was never a real starter. A true starter would never come out of the game 5 minutes in and never sub back in. He started the games because Smith wanted the other players to earn it. Porter eventually did.



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Re: Meet the new guys

Post by MrBiggle » October 27th, 2020, 12:15 pm

What we need is more Smith. Where are the interviews?
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