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Not sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
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I figured Porter went there for a graduate program we didn't offer. No knowledge whatsoever.Chatman wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 9:55 pmNot sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
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I don't know the makeup of their team, but I don't see Porter being a big contributor if they are going to compete for a Big 10 title. He averaged 5.6 pts a game on 38% shooting and 3 assists a game at USU last year. He was 9th on our team last year in player efficiency rating. He was 6th in our team in win shares. It is not selling our program short to believe he is replaceable or that he won't be a serious contributor for Ohio State.Chatman wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 9:55 pmNot sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
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Playing with a hurt back might have something to do with those numbers. Abel is solid, not great. My guess is he’ll be a solid backupAggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 16th, 2020, 8:23 amI don't know the makeup of their team, but I don't see Porter being a big contributor if they are going to compete for a Big 10 title. He averaged 5.6 pts a game on 38% shooting and 3 assists a game at USU last year. He was 9th on our team last year in player efficiency rating. He was 6th in our team in win shares. It is not selling our program short to believe he is replaceable or that he won't be a serious contributor for Ohio State.Chatman wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 9:55 pmNot sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
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Chatman wrote:Not sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
Because he’s not very good. The team was good because he played with arguably the best Aggie ever.
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He's good enough. If you want a mature leader who will be a good influence on a group of young men, relieve your starters for 4-6 minutes a night and is someone that I know I don't have to worry about off the court.... yeah, I'll take him.2004AG wrote: ↑May 16th, 2020, 5:13 pmChatman wrote:Not sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
Because he’s not very good. The team was good because he played with arguably the best Aggie ever.
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I would say 2 of the best Aggies ever. If Queta stays healthy next year he will be all conference for the 3rd year in a row and possibly player of the year. His resume could stack up with the all time greats in Aggie history.2004AG wrote: ↑May 16th, 2020, 5:13 pmChatman wrote:Not sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
Because he’s not very good. The team was good because he played with arguably the best Aggie ever.
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This. When healthy Quetta is the most dominate big we’ve ever had.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 16th, 2020, 7:32 pmI would say 2 of the best Aggies ever. If Queta stays healthy next year he will be all conference for the 3rd year in a row and possibly player of the year. His resume could stack up with the all time greats in Aggie history.2004AG wrote: ↑May 16th, 2020, 5:13 pmChatman wrote:Not sure why not, he would be a great option as a back up point guard who has experience as a starter on a top 20 team and two time MWC champion. To say otherwise sells the entire program short.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 7:48 pmI want Gach at USU, but to be fair (and I know I'll get criticism for this) but I don't think Porter can play at Ohio State. I'd be surprised if he plays meaningful minutes for them next year.
Because he’s not very good. The team was good because he played with arguably the best Aggie ever.
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brownjeans wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 2:17 pmI like him. He seems to have a lot of different tools in his toolbox.
Most the Ute players are inefficient - so I think that's a symptom of the coach and system. Gach would become more efficient playing for Smith.
I kind of agree with you. I get real nervous though about his 3 pt shooting. 25% last year, but dipped to 19% in conference play........ AND at one point missed 21 straight. I don’t think Miller has ever missed that many in a row. Who knows, maybe Coach Smith can relax him and give him more confidence, and get him shooting much better.
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Perhaps he drew one of the opposing teams better defenders and that affected his percentage? Maybe his team was so bad he forced a lot of bad shots? At Utah State he wouldn't need to be option #1 or #2.mcaggie1 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 8:21 ambrownjeans wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 2:17 pmI like him. He seems to have a lot of different tools in his toolbox.
Most the Ute players are inefficient - so I think that's a symptom of the coach and system. Gach would become more efficient playing for Smith.
I kind of agree with you. I get real nervous though about his 3 pt shooting. 25% last year, but dipped to 19% in conference play........ AND at one point missed 21 straight. I don’t think Miller has ever missed that many in a row. Who knows, maybe Coach Smith can relax him and give him more confidence, and get him shooting much better.
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I watched the highlights, and Utah was a master at 4 players standing still offense.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 10:32 amPerhaps he drew one of the opposing teams better defenders and that affected his percentage? Maybe his team was so bad he forced a lot of bad shots? At Utah State he wouldn't need to be option #1 or #2.mcaggie1 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 8:21 ambrownjeans wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 2:17 pmI like him. He seems to have a lot of different tools in his toolbox.
Most the Ute players are inefficient - so I think that's a symptom of the coach and system. Gach would become more efficient playing for Smith.
I kind of agree with you. I get real nervous though about his 3 pt shooting. 25% last year, but dipped to 19% in conference play........ AND at one point missed 21 straight. I don’t think Miller has ever missed that many in a row. Who knows, maybe Coach Smith can relax him and give him more confidence, and get him shooting much better.
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State
I'm in the camp that would love to have Both on the team. I think that what he has done is quite impressive given that he was coached by the biggest douche-bag in all of college basketball. What's interesting is that his numbers from last year are very similar to Koby McEwens, a player that many on this board wish we still had.
Koby, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
29 28.6 33.2 29.2 85.1 5.0 3.2 0.1 0.6 3.3 2.8 9.5
Both, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
27 30.4 39.7 25.0 77.5 3.6 2.9 0.1 0.7 1.7 2.8 10.7
Koby, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
29 28.6 33.2 29.2 85.1 5.0 3.2 0.1 0.6 3.3 2.8 9.5
Both, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
27 30.4 39.7 25.0 77.5 3.6 2.9 0.1 0.7 1.7 2.8 10.7
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I never had a problem with Abel. He is a solid point guard. He didn’t turn the ball over, solid defender, and ran the offense. He didn’t force shots and was able to attack the rim at times. Yes, 2018-2019 version of Porter was better. Obviously his back didn’t help this season. I definitely think he can contribute at Ohio State, apparently their coches think so too. I really don’t think overall there is that much of a talent difference between conferences anyhow. The upper echelon of the MWC is just as good as most teams out there.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 7:58 pmI'm in the camp that would love to have Both on the team. I think that what he has done is quite impressive given that he was coached by the biggest douche-bag in all of college basketball. What's interesting is that his numbers from last year are very similar to Koby McEwens, a player that many on this board wish we still had.
Koby, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
29 28.6 33.2 29.2 85.1 5.0 3.2 0.1 0.6 3.3 2.8 9.5
Both, 2019-20
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
27 30.4 39.7 25.0 77.5 3.6 2.9 0.1 0.7 1.7 2.8 10.7
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https://www.deseret.com/2020/5/15/21260 ... rystkowiak
An article that speaks to a few things discussed on here. Granted I think the writer is is undervaluing the loss for Utah a little bit.
An article that speaks to a few things discussed on here. Granted I think the writer is is undervaluing the loss for Utah a little bit.
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Yeah Sorensen sounds jaded. Must be a Ute fan and sick of losing all these top recruits. What a dumpster fire Yewt basketball is right now, and I absolutely love it.slcagg wrote: ↑May 18th, 2020, 6:31 amhttps://www.deseret.com/2020/5/15/21260 ... rystkowiak
An article that speaks to a few things discussed on here. Granted I think the writer is is undervaluing the loss for Utah a little bit.
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Some really good points 22.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 10:32 amPerhaps he drew one of the opposing teams better defenders and that affected his percentage? Maybe his team was so bad he forced a lot of bad shots? At Utah State he wouldn't need to be option #1 or #2.mcaggie1 wrote: ↑May 17th, 2020, 8:21 ambrownjeans wrote: ↑May 15th, 2020, 2:17 pmI like him. He seems to have a lot of different tools in his toolbox.
Most the Ute players are inefficient - so I think that's a symptom of the coach and system. Gach would become more efficient playing for Smith.
I kind of agree with you. I get real nervous though about his 3 pt shooting. 25% last year, but dipped to 19% in conference play........ AND at one point missed 21 straight. I don’t think Miller has ever missed that many in a row. Who knows, maybe Coach Smith can relax him and give him more confidence, and get him shooting much better.
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When they played in Reno the Pack really didn't guard him with any particular emphasis. He had a solid game but Timmy Allen was a monster. He is the guy Smith should be tampering with from Utah.
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I think this is why there are several on the board that feel this is why Mason Falslev will never suit up there. That and coupled with the fact that his hometown homies Rylan Jones and the Brenchley kid from Ridgeline will be seniors by the time his mission is up.FL350Aggie wrote: ↑May 18th, 2020, 9:41 amYeah Sorensen sounds jaded. Must be a Ute fan and sick of losing all these top recruits. What a dumpster fire Yewt basketball is right now, and I absolutely love it.slcagg wrote: ↑May 18th, 2020, 6:31 amhttps://www.deseret.com/2020/5/15/21260 ... rystkowiak
An article that speaks to a few things discussed on here. Granted I think the writer is is undervaluing the loss for Utah a little bit.
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I heard Timmy May want to play somewhere in Nevada if he comes back and doesn’t stay in the draft.
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He's going to transfer to the University of Elko?
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I’m offended you jerk! Don’t forget about the university in mesquite!
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I'm hearing the University of Mustang Ranchers.
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Re: If Both Gach withdraws from the NBA draft he wants to play for Utah State
Both Gach offers something we have lacked: pure athleticism. I have watched him play a couple of times and would love to have him. Don't put too much stock into his 3 pt shooting stats. That isn't who he is. He is a slasher and finisher. Insanely athletic. He does things that Miller and Brito never could.
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How does this affect Miller and Phonso's PT if he comes and is eligible this year?
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https://www.si.com/college/utah/basketb ... o-transferMadmartigan wrote: ↑May 18th, 2020, 1:18 pmHow does this affect Miller and Phonso's PT if he comes and is eligible this year?
I believe this article was shared already, but it looks like his preferred position is PG. It sounds like one of his issues at Utah was that he didn't like how much he had to play off the ball. I would think this would potentially have larger impact on a guy like Bairstow...both Gach and Bairstow are long combo guards with scoring and facilitating ability. What Gach provides is very different than the skill set of Miller or Fonz.
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If Gach could shoot the 3 with a solid percentage (say 38%), we wouldn't be talking about him at USU - he'd be drafted by an NBA team for sure.
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PG for us without constant pressure to be THE scorer seems like it could be a nice way to develop that shot a little more... take easy 3s, distribute when pressured, with no need to take bad shots. Plus, he'd get to rack up some assists and work on getting those TOs down.brownjeans wrote: ↑May 18th, 2020, 2:40 pmIf Gach could shoot the 3 with a solid percentage (say 38%), we wouldn't be talking about him at USU - he'd be drafted by an NBA team for sure.
But, I'm speaking through my Aggie Blue and Fighting White lenses here...
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No, I think Winnemucca State
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Both played for U of U.
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