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Post by OrangeCountyAggie » April 27th, 2020, 5:32 pm

In a recent interview in the SL Trib (https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-stat ... asketball/), coach Smith said we have 1 open scholarship for next season (with Queta returning).

Assuming we get 13 scholarship players, to whom are the other 12 going? Is there another commit we don't know about? Is Stall for sure returning? Is Dorius getting a scholly? In my calculation, we should have two open for next season, what am I missing?

Returning Scholarships:

1. Sean Bairstow
2. Alphonso Anderson
3. Liam McChesney
4. Brock Miller
5. Neemias Queta
6. Justin Bean
7. Marco Anthony
8. Kuba Karwowski

Newcomers:

9. Steven Ashworth
10. Rollie Worster
11. Nigel John

Unknown:
Klay Stall
Trevin Dorius (scholarship?)
Carson Bishof (in transfer portal)
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Post by Yossarian » April 27th, 2020, 5:39 pm

I would hope that Stall isn't taking one of those. USU should thank Stall for his service time and wearing the Aggie Blue. He made a commendable effort to try and make a go of playing but his body just didn't hold up. He should be encouraged to move on with the thanks of Aggies everywhere for coming here.

I had commented many times while he was being recruited that post players with lower extremity injuries are a gamble, at best. Knees and ankles can be fragile on these guys and don't always heal to pre-injury form.
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Re: Scholarships?

Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 6:09 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 5:32 pm
In a recent interview in the SL Trib (https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-stat ... asketball/), coach Smith said we have 1 open scholarship for next season (with Queta returning).

Assuming we get 13 scholarship players, to whom are the other 12 going? Is there another commit we don't know about? Is Stall for sure returning? Is Dorius getting a scholly? In my calculation, we should have two open for next season, what am I missing?

Returning Scholarships:

1. Sean Bairstow
2. Alphonso Anderson
3. Liam McChesney
4. Brock Miller
5. Neemias Queta
6. Justin Bean
7. Marco Anthony
8. Kuba Karwowski

Newcomers:

9. Steven Ashworth
10. Rollie Worster
11. Nigel John

Unknown:
Klay Stall
Trevin Dorius (scholarship?)
Carson Bishof (in transfer portal)
As of today Klay Stall is on scholarship.Trevin Dorius will not be put on scholarship. Bischoff had moved on and will not be coming back.



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by 2004AG » April 27th, 2020, 7:21 pm

Seems like Stall is going on about 10 years in the program.


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Re: Scholarships?

Post by Blitz79 » April 27th, 2020, 7:31 pm

Why did we sit Bishof last year again?



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by ineptimusprime » April 27th, 2020, 7:46 pm

aggies22 wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 6:09 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 5:32 pm
In a recent interview in the SL Trib (https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-stat ... asketball/), coach Smith said we have 1 open scholarship for next season (with Queta returning).

Assuming we get 13 scholarship players, to whom are the other 12 going? Is there another commit we don't know about? Is Stall for sure returning? Is Dorius getting a scholly? In my calculation, we should have two open for next season, what am I missing?

Returning Scholarships:

1. Sean Bairstow
2. Alphonso Anderson
3. Liam McChesney
4. Brock Miller
5. Neemias Queta
6. Justin Bean
7. Marco Anthony
8. Kuba Karwowski

Newcomers:

9. Steven Ashworth
10. Rollie Worster
11. Nigel John

Unknown:
Klay Stall
Trevin Dorius (scholarship?)
Carson Bishof (in transfer portal)
As of today Klay Stall is on scholarship.Trevin Dorius will not be put on scholarship. Bischoff had moved on and will not be coming back.
IMHO, we can’t afford to keep Stall on scholarship. We have incredible post-depth (Queta, Bean, Dorius, and John) without him and a huge need for ball-handling and shooting.



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by AggiesForever » April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm

Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by slcagg » April 27th, 2020, 7:50 pm

AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
I thought it had been reported on here that cade would go back out and that ashworth mission would have been around June either way. Not saying you are wrong or circumstances have changed but we’ve had other things on here reported.



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 8:00 pm

AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
Ashworth is serving in Indiana and is not home yet but they do expect him in the fall. I also do not believe they are expecting Potter this fall.



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by 2004AG » April 27th, 2020, 8:54 pm

slcagg wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
I thought it had been reported on here that cade would go back out and that ashworth mission would have been around June either way. Not saying you are wrong or circumstances have changed but we’ve had other things on here reported.
You are correct. Ashworth is done.


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Re: Scholarships?

Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 8:59 pm

2004AG wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 8:54 pm
slcagg wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
I thought it had been reported on here that cade would go back out and that ashworth mission would have been around June either way. Not saying you are wrong or circumstances have changed but we’ve had other things on here reported.
You are correct. Ashworth is done.


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My mistake. I had heard as recently as last week that he was still in the mission field.



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Post by ususports » April 27th, 2020, 9:28 pm

2004AG wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:21 pm
Seems like Stall is going on about 10 years in the program.
Agreed. He must be on his 8th medical redshirt, and have 25 more years to play one season.



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Post by 2004AG » April 27th, 2020, 10:01 pm

aggies22 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 8:54 pm
slcagg wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
I thought it had been reported on here that cade would go back out and that ashworth mission would have been around June either way. Not saying you are wrong or circumstances have changed but we’ve had other things on here reported.
You are correct. Ashworth is done.


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My mistake. I had heard as recently as last week that he was still in the mission field.
Sorry. I meant to say he’s finishing up and it doesn’t have anything to do with the Rona. Pretty sure he gets home in a couple weeks.


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Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 10:08 pm

2004AG wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 10:01 pm
aggies22 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 8:54 pm
slcagg wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
I thought it had been reported on here that cade would go back out and that ashworth mission would have been around June either way. Not saying you are wrong or circumstances have changed but we’ve had other things on here reported.
You are correct. Ashworth is done.


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My mistake. I had heard as recently as last week that he was still in the mission field.
Sorry. I meant to say he’s finishing up and it doesn’t have anything to do with the Rona. Pretty sure he gets home in a couple weeks.


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That's much closer to what I understood. Thank you for clarifying that my Aggie brother!



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Re: Scholarships?

Post by FromLItoLogan » April 28th, 2020, 12:32 am

AggiesForever wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 7:47 pm
Ive heard Karwowski isn't coming back either.

Cade Potter is home from his mission due to COVID-19, so add him to the mix. Probably the same for Steven Ashworth, unless he goes back out for another 9 months, or whatever it was he had left. He wasn't expected for another year, so he might have to wait to start his clock.
Why isn't Karwowski coming back? Was he banking on Queta leaving so he could be the starter or something?



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » April 28th, 2020, 12:05 pm

Dorius was starting to look pretty good and worthy of a scholarship if Kuba is in fact leaving. If Stall uses up another scholarship next year warming a seat on the bus and bench I'm going to fedex a box of feces to Duryea. What a waste of a scholarship for the past decade.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » April 28th, 2020, 12:11 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:05 pm
Dorius was starting to look pretty good and worthy of a scholarship if Kuba is in fact leaving. If Stall uses up another scholarship next year warming a seat on the bus and bench I'm going to fedex a box of feces to Duryea. What a waste of a scholarship for the past decade.
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Post by ususports » April 28th, 2020, 12:23 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:05 pm
If Stall uses up another scholarship next year warming a seat on the bus and bench I'm going to fedex a box of feces to Duryea. What a waste of a scholarship for the past decade.
While I agree (and I would be happy to donate to this cause that is very dear to my heart if you are running short on crap), some of the blame has to be put on the current coaching staff. Scholarships are year to year, and while I applaud loyalty and honoring agreements, this is beyond acceptable to keep bringing him back if he has no chance of playing.



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Post by slcagg » April 28th, 2020, 12:30 pm

ususports wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:23 pm
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:05 pm
If Stall uses up another scholarship next year warming a seat on the bus and bench I'm going to fedex a box of feces to Duryea. What a waste of a scholarship for the past decade.
While I agree (and I would be happy to donate to this cause that is very dear to my heart if you are running short on crap), some of the blame has to be put on the current coaching staff. Scholarships are year to year, and while I applaud loyalty and honoring agreements, this is beyond acceptable to keep bringing him back if he has no chance of playing.
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.



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Post by ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN » April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm

Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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Post by ususports » April 28th, 2020, 12:46 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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Seems pretty heartless to ditch out on his teammates in the middle of the season for such a selfish need. :joking:



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Post by slcagg » April 28th, 2020, 1:06 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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I guess that is ok. But shouldn’t that type of surgery signal maybe it’s time to move on?
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Post by Aggie84025 » April 28th, 2020, 1:20 pm

slcagg wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 1:06 pm
ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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I guess that is ok. But shouldn’t that type of surgery signal maybe it’s time to move on?
I appreciate loyalty, but you have a program to run. You have a player who has 0 to very little stats over like a 4 year period. He has nagging injuries. he should have his degree by now. his scholarship should be given to someone they can bring in and compete and help the team win games.



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Post by AGGIEFIGHT » April 28th, 2020, 3:26 pm

The ncaa has a program that is a medical retirement where the school can continue to pay for a players education until he graduates but he can no longer participate within the program. It seems Clay circumstance would fit this program
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Post by Bank Shot » April 28th, 2020, 3:31 pm

AGGIEFIGHT wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 3:26 pm
The ncaa has a program that is a medical retirement where the school can continue to pay for a players education until he graduates but he can no longer participate within the program. It seems Clay circumstance would fit this program
That's what I first thought when some were negative about Stall being on a scholie. Due to his medical issues, I think it's best to tamp down the criticism until the day that he is actually on the active roster and taking up a scholie that could go elsewhere.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » April 28th, 2020, 4:00 pm

This has exploded a bit more than I expected. I thought we'd heard from 22 that Stall would likely be given the "medical retirement" treatment. Is that inaccurate?



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Post by aggies22 » April 28th, 2020, 4:27 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 4:00 pm
This has exploded a bit more than I expected. I thought we'd heard from 22 that Stall would likely be given the "medical retirement" treatment. Is that inaccurate?
I haven't said that it is certain BUT I do think that he has reached a point in his career where it may be necessary.



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Post by SLB » April 28th, 2020, 4:34 pm

aggies22 wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 4:27 pm
Real Life Aggie wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 4:00 pm
This has exploded a bit more than I expected. I thought we'd heard from 22 that Stall would likely be given the "medical retirement" treatment. Is that inaccurate?
I haven't said that it is certain BUT I do think that he has reached a point in his career where it may be necessary.
Stall like some other talented folks had injuries derail his career. I hope that he can be a good GA for us.



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Post by aggies22 » April 28th, 2020, 8:08 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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I think he had back surgery right before the Conference Tournament.



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Post by AggieVoice » April 28th, 2020, 8:20 pm

Confirmation that Klay will not be back next year. He is not medically capable of playing.



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Post by GUS » April 28th, 2020, 10:49 pm

So he will able to still be with the team and finish his schooling.



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Post by SLB » April 28th, 2020, 10:59 pm

aggies22 wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 8:08 pm
ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:39 pm
Didn’t he disappear for a few weeks during the season. I’m not for dumping on a kid, but did we ever figure where he was? It was almost he took an extended Christmas.
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I think he had back surgery right before the Conference Tournament.
Stall is the most injured dude there is. No shame in his career for injuries, some of us hope that he hangs his shoes up with no regret and never gets injured again and has success in life.



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Post by aggies22 » April 29th, 2020, 10:27 am

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So he will able to still be with the team and finish his schooling.
Basically and he would remain on scholarship but it would no longer count toward the yearly maximum of 13. That opens up another scholarship, so we now have two to give for the 2020-21 season.
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Post by Yossarian » April 29th, 2020, 10:58 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 10:27 am
GUS wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 10:49 pm
So he will able to still be with the team and finish his schooling.
Basically and he would remain on scholarship but it would no longer count toward the yearly maximum of 13. That opens up another scholarship, so we now have two to give for the 2020-21 season.
Wouldn't it be three to give? Or is Karwowski coming back? Or did one go to Dorius?



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