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Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by AKAggie03 » March 12th, 2020, 6:11 pm

Curious as to why they didnt just postpone the tourney a month or two to see if this all settles down vs just flat out cancelling.


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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by MrBiggle » March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm

Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...


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Post by ViAggie » March 12th, 2020, 6:20 pm

It's easier to throw your hands up in the air and so "OH WELL FK IT"


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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by aggies22 » March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm

MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by slcagg » March 12th, 2020, 6:58 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think he the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
I hope you are right. Announce the field and then announce it will happen in April or May if everything clears up.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by MrBiggle » March 12th, 2020, 7:03 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think he the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
Oh really, are you hearing some rumors?


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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 12th, 2020, 7:19 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think he the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
Do you have any inside information on this?



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by aggies22 » March 12th, 2020, 7:57 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:19 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think he the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
Do you have any inside information on this?
I wish I did. It's just my opinion and that's why I used the "I think" phrase. If I hear anything of substance you guys will be the first to know.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by dirtnsnow » March 12th, 2020, 8:59 pm

The tournament is a massive undertaking, coordinating multiple sites for dozens of games. Not only that, but conference tournaments would all have to be rescheduled, as well.


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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 12th, 2020, 9:30 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:57 pm
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:19 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:18 pm
Some of the “big” coaches are saying the same thing. Too bad...
I think he the "big" coaches will eventually get their way.
Do you have any inside information on this?
I wish I did. It's just my opinion and that's why I used the "I think" phrase. If I hear anything of substance you guys will be the first to know.
I'd love for you to be right, but I just don't see it. It would take a lot for them to start playing again in the next few weeks and with it being college athletes you don't have infinite time to wait for this.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by BiocatAg » March 12th, 2020, 10:08 pm

dirtnsnow wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 8:59 pm
The tournament is a massive undertaking, coordinating multiple sites for dozens of games. Not only that, but conference tournaments would all have to be rescheduled, as well.
They could eliminate some of the logistical nightmares by holding the event at campus sites in May, but I doubt they'll bring it back.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm

I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by dirtnsnow » March 12th, 2020, 10:29 pm

BiocatAg wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:08 pm
dirtnsnow wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 8:59 pm
The tournament is a massive undertaking, coordinating multiple sites for dozens of games. Not only that, but conference tournaments would all have to be rescheduled, as well.
They could eliminate some of the logistical nightmares by holding the event at campus sites in May, but I doubt they'll bring it back.
While I like that idea, I think that takes money out of the pockets of decision makers, and therefore won't happen.


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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by NVAggie » March 12th, 2020, 10:53 pm

That would be a good way to jump start the economy.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 12th, 2020, 11:44 pm

Not sure if correct but it made sense. Jay Bilas was saying on ESPN that the NCAA likely had to cancel in order to qualify for their insurance claim and recoup a lot of their losses which would not be guaranteed if the tourney was postponed.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by NVAggie » March 13th, 2020, 7:25 am

If that is the case then they went with guaranteed money over a possible loss. Greedy dudes.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by Chatman » March 13th, 2020, 7:29 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
One can hope. Not likely.
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Post by Chatman » March 13th, 2020, 7:31 am

It would be tough to do it later. I’m sure they explored that option hard.

Besides scheduling, many seniors have jobs lined up to start their careers and getting teams enough time to practice and prepared after two months would be a tall order.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by blueaggie » March 13th, 2020, 8:04 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
You are correct. What we have now is panic and fear over the media hyping statistics about the flu. I remember one year during Christmas when almost every member of my family and and my extended family had the flu and if we would have had elderly parents with underlying issues they probably would have died. I just can't believe that so many people are buying into this scam. What the media should be hyping are all the deaths attributed to the fear and panic by way of heart attacks, suicide, strokes etc. I'm sure that number will be way higher. My question is who is behind this scam and what is their motive.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 13th, 2020, 8:44 am

The US had to do something to flatten the curve as we are getting the wave of the disease in the next 7-10 days. I get that. I just don't get why things couldn't have been postponed and if it was for the insurance, then the NCAA is who I thought they were. Just a bunch of greedy bastards.
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by AgMac » March 13th, 2020, 8:47 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 11:44 pm
Not sure if correct but it made sense. Jay Bilas was saying on ESPN that the NCAA likely had to cancel in order to qualify for their insurance claim and recoup a lot of their losses which would not be guaranteed if the tourney was postponed.
It makes complete sense and is 100% the reason, IMO.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by FL350Aggie » March 13th, 2020, 8:50 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:44 am
The US had to do something to flatten the curve as we are getting the wave of the disease in the next 7-10 days. I get that. I just don't get why things couldn't have been postponed and if it was for the insurance, then the NCAA is who I thought they were. Just a bunch of greedy bastards.
There is no denying the fact that are a bunch of greedy bastards. Just sucks for the teams and the fans that get absolutely nothing.
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by Imakeitrain » March 13th, 2020, 8:58 am

I am not superstitious but I am a little stitious. The NCAA just saved America.

When I lose something, the best way to find what I lost is replace what I lost. Then after spending the money- poof there it is, on the table it belongs.

The best way to avoid an incoming mega snow storm is to pre-maturely shut down schools.

The best way for us to win when we are behind is for me to shut down the game on my TV prematurely... (I called this in chat vs SDSU)

Therefore the best way to not have Coronavirus is to shutdown America prematurely.

I mean that or science and flattening curves & crap. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by NVAggie » March 13th, 2020, 9:38 am

I think it is the right thing to do. No need to put people at risk for less important stuff
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by ViAggie » March 13th, 2020, 9:43 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
See you in a week...
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by AgMac » March 13th, 2020, 10:11 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:44 am
The US had to do something to flatten the curve as we are getting the wave of the disease in the next 7-10 days. I get that. I just don't get why things couldn't have been postponed and if it was for the insurance, then the NCAA is who I thought they were. Just a bunch of greedy bastards.
I keep hearing and seeing the "flatten the curve" argument, but I'm not sure I buy it. First, I don't think it is being promulgated by the CDC. The CDC certainly did not recommend cancelling major events and shutting down the sporting world.

Second, I think effectively shutting down society will result in an INCREASE in people running to hospitals when they start to get sick, tying up resources and not allowing health care providers to focus on the more susceptible. One NBA player tests positive and they suspend the entire season? Whoa! You better believe that is going to scare an otherwise healthy 30 year old into heading to the hospital as soon as they get a fever.

Continuing with life as normal, with a few extra precautions (e.g., washing hands, self-quarantine if you're sick, etc.) seems to be a much better way of reducing panic, keeping the less susceptible out of the hospital, and freeing up health resources for those who really need it.



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Post by blueaggie » March 13th, 2020, 10:30 am

NVAggie wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 9:38 am
I think it is the right thing to do. No need to put people at risk for less important stuff
Why now? How did we stop the swine, avian, h1n1 and many other? I don't recall any other events being cancelled because of the flu.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by NVAggie » March 13th, 2020, 12:36 pm

We don't know how this organism differs from those past organisms. We are also living in a different world now. There is more connection than before. I think we would have been okay, but why risk it?



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 13th, 2020, 1:13 pm

NVAggie wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 12:36 pm
We don't know how this organism differs from those past organisms. We are also living in a different world now. There is more connection than before. I think we would have been okay, but why risk it?
Like sexual connection?



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Post by Intermeddler » March 13th, 2020, 3:17 pm

blueaggie wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:04 am
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
You are correct. What we have now is panic and fear over the media hyping statistics about the flu. I remember one year during Christmas when almost every member of my family and and my extended family had the flu and if we would have had elderly parents with underlying issues they probably would have died. I just can't believe that so many people are buying into this scam. What the media should be hyping are all the deaths attributed to the fear and panic by way of heart attacks, suicide, strokes etc. I'm sure that number will be way higher. My question is who is behind this scam and what is their motive.
Is what’s happening in Italy a scam?
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by NavyBlueAggie » March 14th, 2020, 4:08 pm

AKAggie03 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:11 pm
Curious as to why they didnt just postpone the tourney a month or two to see if this all settles down vs just flat out cancelling.
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Interesting thought AK,,,and also quite reasonable. There is a chance this flu panic will be dealt with in the next couple of weeks, and then we can carry on as desired. I do wonder how much the teams will lose their "edge" with this extended lay off. Like your train of thinking AK....nice



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Post by oleblu111 » March 14th, 2020, 4:23 pm

You would have reschedule all the conference tournaments, than reschedule all the venues that the NCAA had lined up, then all the players would need to get back into playing shape. That would not even start until a month or so to see the infected numbers go down. It is not going to happen.



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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by MetsJetsAggies » March 14th, 2020, 4:44 pm

AgMac wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 10:11 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:44 am
The US had to do something to flatten the curve as we are getting the wave of the disease in the next 7-10 days. I get that. I just don't get why things couldn't have been postponed and if it was for the insurance, then the NCAA is who I thought they were. Just a bunch of greedy bastards.
I keep hearing and seeing the "flatten the curve" argument, but I'm not sure I buy it. First, I don't think it is being promulgated by the CDC. The CDC certainly did not recommend cancelling major events and shutting down the sporting world.

Second, I think effectively shutting down society will result in an INCREASE in people running to hospitals when they start to get sick, tying up resources and not allowing health care providers to focus on the more susceptible. One NBA player tests positive and they suspend the entire season? Whoa! You better believe that is going to scare an otherwise healthy 30 year old into heading to the hospital as soon as they get a fever.

Continuing with life as normal, with a few extra precautions (e.g., washing hands, self-quarantine if you're sick, etc.) seems to be a much better way of reducing panic, keeping the less susceptible out of the hospital, and freeing up health resources for those who really need it.
America and the CDC only needed to see what happened to Italy for a few days before realizing that the same thing was going to happen here unless we took action. We aren't testing anyone, so we don't know how many people already have it and are spreading it to others. Italy was the first and hardest hit of the European countries, they didn't take extreme measures quickly enough or install rigorous testing protocols like South Korea did, and they are paying the price right now.

Risking a collapse of the healthcare system is massive, especially for people who aren't even sick with the virus. Right now even with the panic, the message should be to stay home if you are sick unless you have trouble breathing. You can't stop human nature of panicking, but cancelling social gatherings was necessary to slow the spread for the time being until we have enough testing to grasp how much of the population is already infected and contagious. Athletes testing positive unknowingly shows how rapidly and under the radar this thing is spreading.



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Post by Chupamedia » March 14th, 2020, 5:20 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
blueaggie wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:04 am
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:13 pm
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to wake up in about a week and say, "...oh crap, what did we do?!"
You are correct. What we have now is panic and fear over the media hyping statistics about the flu. I remember one year during Christmas when almost every member of my family and and my extended family had the flu and if we would have had elderly parents with underlying issues they probably would have died. I just can't believe that so many people are buying into this scam. What the media should be hyping are all the deaths attributed to the fear and panic by way of heart attacks, suicide, strokes etc. I'm sure that number will be way higher. My question is who is behind this scam and what is their motive.
Is what’s happening in Italy a scam?
I don’t think it’s a scam but I have distributors in Rome and Milan. Both say their area has not been greatly affected, but further north has been an issue. They have told me independently that they expect things to be back to full production March 25. Both are currently working in their offices but are asked in their areas to not congregate or have large gatherings. In supermarkets and other public venues they are asked to keep a distance of 10 meters from others. It has been serious, but also not completely honestly reported according to them
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Re: Why not postpone vs cancel

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 14th, 2020, 6:44 pm

FL350Aggie wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:50 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:44 am
The US had to do something to flatten the curve as we are getting the wave of the disease in the next 7-10 days. I get that. I just don't get why things couldn't have been postponed and if it was for the insurance, then the NCAA is who I thought they were. Just a bunch of greedy bastards.
There is no denying the fact that are a bunch of greedy bastards. Just sucks for the teams and the fans that get absolutely nothing.
For all the problems with the NCAA they did the right thing and cancelled the tournament which will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars. This isn't an example of the sports world being "greedy bastards." There are certainly many examples of them being that.



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