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Various brackets

Post by tysteve20 » February 21st, 2020, 2:51 pm

CBS (palm): 10 seed vs Ohio st
ESPN (lunardi): 12 seed play in vs NC st
Fox: 11 seed vs Marquette
NBC: 11 seed play in vs USC
Katz: first four out
USAtoday: first four out
SBnation: first four out

Lunardi has us as the #2 last four in
NBC has us as the #1

Most of these were updated and published today.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by usu99 » February 21st, 2020, 3:09 pm

We need to win the tourney. I don't think we get in otherwise. Doesn't matter our NET or whatever, we are Utah State and we get snubbed for the big boys.


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Re: Various brackets

Post by scotlandog » February 21st, 2020, 3:10 pm

Based on our NET now in the 30’s, we should be more and more solidly in the field. A lot can change from where it is right now, but with a NET in the 30’s, we should be in the conversation of a 10 seed rather than first four in/out type conversations. I think that’s where we will be if we keep winning into the conference tournament.


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Re: Various brackets

Post by slcagg » February 21st, 2020, 3:14 pm

scotlandog wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:10 pm
Based on our NET now in the 30’s, we should be more and more solidly in the field. A lot can change from where it is right now, but with a NET in the 30’s, we should be in the conversation of a 10 seed rather than first four in/out type conversations. I think that’s where we will be if we keep winning into the conference tournament.


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That is what is so confusing on these brackets. All the teams in our area of net are 7-10 seeds. Not this first 4 in or out crap. For example pretty much the same net as Florida but yet I’ve seen them around a 8-10 seed. Plus we beat those guys without our big guy.
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Re: Various brackets

Post by Bank Shot » February 21st, 2020, 3:42 pm

slcagg wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:14 pm
scotlandog wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:10 pm
Based on our NET now in the 30’s, we should be more and more solidly in the field. A lot can change from where it is right now, but with a NET in the 30’s, we should be in the conversation of a 10 seed rather than first four in/out type conversations. I think that’s where we will be if we keep winning into the conference tournament.


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That is what is so confusing on these brackets. All the teams in our area of net are 7-10 seeds. Not this first 4 in or out crap. For example pretty much the same net as Florida but yet I’ve seen them around a 8-10 seed. Plus we beat those guys without our big guy.
That loss at Air Force keeps rearing it's ugly head.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by Yossarian » February 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm

Bank Shot wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:42 pm
slcagg wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:14 pm
scotlandog wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:10 pm
Based on our NET now in the 30’s, we should be more and more solidly in the field. A lot can change from where it is right now, but with a NET in the 30’s, we should be in the conversation of a 10 seed rather than first four in/out type conversations. I think that’s where we will be if we keep winning into the conference tournament.


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That is what is so confusing on these brackets. All the teams in our area of net are 7-10 seeds. Not this first 4 in or out crap. For example pretty much the same net as Florida but yet I’ve seen them around a 8-10 seed. Plus we beat those guys without our big guy.
That loss at Air Force keeps rearing it's ugly head.
A win over St. Mary's or BYU would have done more good than the AFA loss did bad. They were both winnable games, too.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by QuackAttackAggie » February 21st, 2020, 3:55 pm

The athletic has us first four vs ncst


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Re: Various brackets

Post by UStateTim » February 21st, 2020, 4:46 pm

Yossarian wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm
Bank Shot wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:42 pm
slcagg wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:14 pm
scotlandog wrote:
February 21st, 2020, 3:10 pm
Based on our NET now in the 30’s, we should be more and more solidly in the field. A lot can change from where it is right now, but with a NET in the 30’s, we should be in the conversation of a 10 seed rather than first four in/out type conversations. I think that’s where we will be if we keep winning into the conference tournament.


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That is what is so confusing on these brackets. All the teams in our area of net are 7-10 seeds. Not this first 4 in or out crap. For example pretty much the same net as Florida but yet I’ve seen them around a 8-10 seed. Plus we beat those guys without our big guy.
That loss at Air Force keeps rearing it's ugly head.
A win over St. Mary's or BYU would have done more good than the AFA loss did bad. They were both winnable games, too.
I totally agree. Does the committee do their homework and learn context around team's losses or do they just look at it in face value? We beat St. Mary's and BYU with a fully healthy Queta.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by Bank Shot » February 21st, 2020, 5:21 pm

The loss to UNLV dropped us from #38 to #73. And a week later the Air Force loss put us down to #91. The UNLV loss has bee n mitigated over time because they have risen in the rankings. It's certain a St Mary's or BYU win would have helped but as of now that Air Force loss is a Q3 loss (capped at 10 thanks goodness) and that's bad any way you slice it. I think we would be higher today with a win at Air Force, than a win vs. either St. Mary's or BYU.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by Agezzz » February 21st, 2020, 5:38 pm

I think if we win out the season and get to the final game in the Tourney we are a 10 seed. If we lose early in the Tourney it's a crapshoot...



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Re: Various brackets

Post by tkmad » February 21st, 2020, 7:06 pm

This is from Lunardi's Twitter today. He's updated USU to an #11 seed.


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Re: Various brackets

Post by SpectrumMagic » February 21st, 2020, 9:48 pm

Crazy the N Iowa is ahead of us. They have 2 Quad 3 losses and worse in all the rankings



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Re: Various brackets

Post by aggies1 » February 21st, 2020, 11:47 pm

Can you imagine a matchup against Ohio State? An opportunity to win another first round matchup and repeat history? I’d take that matchup and be pumped to win another 1st round game!



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Re: Various brackets

Post by MrBiggle » February 22nd, 2020, 11:20 am

Does anyone know where St Mary’s was in the net ranking last year? IIRC they got snubbed but i think they ranked lower in the Net then we currently are?
Plus, the committee stuck pretty close to the Net last year which surprised a lot of people, will they do it again this year?


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Re: Various brackets

Post by Aggiesbleedblue » February 22nd, 2020, 11:34 am

MrBiggle wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 11:20 am
Does anyone know where St Mary’s was in the net ranking last year? IIRC they got snubbed but i think they ranked lower in the Net then we currently are?
Plus, the committee stuck pretty close to the Net last year which surprised a lot of people, will they do it again this year?
St Mary’s won the WCC tournament last year



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Re: Various brackets

Post by MrBiggle » February 22nd, 2020, 4:00 pm

Aggiesbleedblue wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 11:34 am
MrBiggle wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 11:20 am
Does anyone know where St Mary’s was in the net ranking last year? IIRC they got snubbed but i think they ranked lower in the Net then we currently are?
Plus, the committee stuck pretty close to the Net last year which surprised a lot of people, will they do it again this year?
St Mary’s won the WCC tournament last year
That's right, forgot about that. I think there was talk of them being the last 4 out, but then they pummeled the Zags and got it automatically. They had 11 losses prior to losing in the first round NCAA .

On a side note, stupid AF losses to Wyoming at home. Sheesh

This link shows that simply being ranked higher in the NET and other systems does not mean that we will get in...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 200279002/


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Re: Various brackets

Post by rAggie » February 22nd, 2020, 5:53 pm

Really encourage you all to start using bracketmatrix.com versus looking at and caring what individual bracketologists say. The aggregated view of 99+ brackets is much more accurate than what any one individual says.
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Post by Aggie84025 » February 22nd, 2020, 7:38 pm

rAggie wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 5:53 pm
Really encourage you all to start using bracketmatrix.com versus looking at and caring what individual bracketologists say. The aggregated view of 99+ brackets is much more accurate than what any one individual says.
It currently has the Aggies as a 12 seed but it is showing 5, 12 seeds does that mean the Aggies would be projected as the playing game right now?



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Re: Various brackets

Post by Bank Shot » February 22nd, 2020, 7:50 pm

I posted on this last year. I compared Palm, Lunardi and Matrix to see who was the most accurate. Lunardi was the most accurate, followed by Matrix and then Palm. If I remember right, there wasn't many discrepancies as to who got in, but Lunardi was the most accurate on seeding.



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Re: Various brackets

Post by slcagg » February 22nd, 2020, 10:22 pm



We are officially off the last four in with lunardi. Just keep on winning.



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