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USU Top Performers

Post by aggieaz » December 14th, 2019, 12:16 am

The chart is a per-minute production of each USU player. Queta was not included due to limited playing time.

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According to this chart, the most productive players on a per minute basis in all categories are Merrill, Bean, Brito, Anderson, and Karwowski. If Queta was not playing, these would be my starters.

One category that the chart does not include is a defensive production analysis and is probably why Miller is rated higher by the coaching staff.
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Re: USU Top Performers

Post by bullshot » December 14th, 2019, 8:23 am

Miller is highly rated defensively? By whom?
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Post by QuackAttackAggie » December 14th, 2019, 8:46 am

bullshot wrote:Miller is highly rated defensively? By whom?
The chair that only managed 18 points on him in practice


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Post by lcrasmus » December 14th, 2019, 10:09 am

bullshot wrote:Miller is highly rated defensively? By whom?
Metrics. And not by people piling on the "he's a terrible player" bandwagon.




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Post by Dungeonmaster119 » December 14th, 2019, 10:36 am

I don't care who starts as much as who gets the most minutes and who finishes. The lineup of Merrill, Brito, Anderson, Bean, Queta should be our MONSTARS group that finishes IMO. I hope Queta stuffs Haws so hard that the ball shaves off the rest of his hair. Go Ags!



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Re: USU Top Performers

Post by Real Life Aggie » December 14th, 2019, 10:46 am

lcrasmus wrote:
December 14th, 2019, 10:09 am
bullshot wrote:Miller is highly rated defensively? By whom?
Metrics. And not by people piling on the "he's a terrible player" bandwagon.




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Can you share some of that? Because all I can remember is Mays and Ford driving past Miller like he wasn't there when it changed from Sam guarding them to Miller guarding them.



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Post by lcrasmus » December 14th, 2019, 11:27 am

Real Life Aggie wrote:
lcrasmus wrote:
December 14th, 2019, 10:09 am
bullshot wrote:Miller is highly rated defensively? By whom?
Metrics. And not by people piling on the "he's a terrible player" bandwagon.




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Can you share some of that? Because all I can remember is Mays and Ford driving past Miller like he wasn't there when it changed from Sam guarding them to Miller guarding them.

Sports-reference.com has leaderboards that track the best players in conference based on a huge variety of metrics. The leaderboard only displays a category of you're in the top 20 (I believe) in the conference.

Here's Miller's current superlatives for that. Image


Defensive rating and defensive win shares are both there. His d-rating is sitting in 13th place at 90.5, which is only slightly behind Porter's 89.2 9th place, Sam Merrill's 8th place 87.9, and Brito's 82.1 3rd place entry. He's also 8th in defense win shares, to Sam Merrill's 3rd and Brito's 2nd (Porter is 9th.) (Not related, but he also has the lowest turnover percentage in the conference)

Point being: he's a significantly better defender than the eye test gives him, and I think one of the reasons why is because we have incredible defenders at the guard line. So he's the 3rd/4th best guard defender on our team, so he can look soft by comparison, but he's still the current 13th best defender in the conference by rating. Just because we have 4 guards in the top 15 defenders in the conference doesn't mean the last one rating wise in that number is bad.

However, people have decided that his game is so weak that he can't possibly be a good defender. It's 100% subjective and based on fan perception of watching games. Mays and Ford are two of the best ball handling and scoring guards in the nation, and you seem to forget that Ford went off that game regardless of who was guarding him.




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