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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:01 pm
by ineptimusprime
Can someone GRAMA the written statement(s) submitted by USU to the MW?
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
by hipsterdoofus21
slcagg wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:57 pm
I loved as everyone is trying to pull Caroline back that Musselman just nonchalantly walks by and doesn’t say a word.
Looks like a guy who really cares about that Wolfpack family of his, or more like a dude who just farted on the elevator and fleeing the scene.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
by MrBiggle
Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pm
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
But is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
This. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.
I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:04 pm
by UtahStizzle
Actually a couple assistants start taking off before Caroline if you watch closely. Also looks like they're yelling at someone in the distance...
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:05 pm
by sstewboy
Ag4life wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
sstewboy wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:41 pm
Who is this guy? He should know better than anyone what happened. And why does he appear to wave the Nevada players down the hall at the beginning of the chase (starting at the 3:45 minute mark in the second video):
This guy?
https://utahstateaggies.com/staff.aspx?staff=197
Yep, that's him. Someone needs to ask him to clarify what was said. He clearly heard it. He reacts slightly by looking down the hall then steps into the middle of the hall to diffuse the situation.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:06 pm
by paaron46
Sad there's no audio.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pm
by KohnDome
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pm
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
But is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
This. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.
I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...
Would this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:10 pm
by MrBiggle
KohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pm
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pm
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
But is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
This. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.
I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...
Would this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??
Possible
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:14 pm
by ProvoAggie
I believe that there are the only views. The one view is facing our locker room but our players were still out on the floor I believe.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:15 pm
by pablohoney
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:10 pm
KohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pm
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pm
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
But is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
This. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.
I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...
Would this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??
Possible
Is there a time stamp on the videos? My phone video of Sweet Caroline has it stamped at 9:12/9:13. Maybe the players were singing it up the tunnel
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:16 pm
by USU78
I'm thinking this kid is seriously mentally ill. Looked like a psychotic break.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:17 pm
by frankiedoeshollywood
ProvoAggie wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:14 pm
I believe that there are the only views. The one view is facing our locker room but our players were still out on the floor I believe.
Can't believe there is no camera covering the entrance to our locker room.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:17 pm
by usufan1
Unrelated note - from the "court view behind the students" about two minutes in I love that Coach Smith found his way to Stew near halfcourt and gave him a hug.
The flame of Spectrum magic has officially been passed!
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:23 pm
by newhouse9
So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pm
by bpd
These views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:25 pm
by Blue42
bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pm
These views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
At least it verified what 22 was saying earlier, since some people weren't trusting his source for some reason.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:27 pm
by Zaggie07
I'd be very interested to see the two videos of the hallway and the baseline of the arena synced up.
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:28 pm
by bluegrouse
bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pm
These views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
I was over it until Musselman’s wife tweeted that bullcrap. That pushed me over the edge. I hope Nevada loses every game they ever play regardless of the impact to the league. By far the most disgusting part of this whole mess IMO. What a joke.
I agree it’s time to move on.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:32 pm
by letsbehonest
Win tomorrow and let the MWCT play out.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:33 pm
by AngusAg
bluegrouse wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:28 pm
bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pm
These views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
I was over it until Musselman’s wife tweeted that bullcrap. That pushed me over the edge. I hope Nevada loses every game they ever play regardless of the impact to the league. By far the most disgusting part of this whole mess IMO. What a joke.
I agree it’s time to move on.
Completely agree.
Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:34 pm
by jpswensen
It would be nice to know if Sweet Caroline sung up the tunnel is what triggered him. Sounds like an awful good cheer for the MWCT, maybe with some modified lyrics to mock his berserker rage.
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:35 pm
by usufan1
Ridiculous how giddy Nisre ZouZoua is as his team charges down the hall.
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:35 pm
by MrBiggle
pablohoney wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:15 pm
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:10 pm
KohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pm
MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pm
Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pm
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pm
But is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
This. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.
I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...
Would this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??
Possible
Is there a time stamp on the videos? My phone video of Sweet Caroline has it stamped at 9:12/9:13. Maybe the players were singing it up the tunnel
No time stamp, I just watched the video and timed how much time elapsed from when caroline walked up the tunnel to when I thought I saw USU players start to walk up the tunnel. It's only about a 2 minute difference.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:37 pm
by MrBiggle
newhouse9 wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:23 pm
So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Thats what I thought initially as well, but they just run right by him. It looks like Ragland never made it around the corner.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:37 pm
by UtahStizzle
newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:39 pm
by MrBiggle
UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:37 pm
newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...
Good job standing up for USU to musselmans wife on twitter. Totally uncalled for on her part.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:40 pm
by jpswensen
UtahStizzle wrote:newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...
There was a Nevada staffer who went around the corner for about 30 seconds. When he came back around the corner, I can only imagine he said something that caused the reaction. Or they heard something echoing down the hall.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:41 pm
by TrueBlue
Is that a Nevada staffer that comes around at the end, right before they rush past man bun? I couldn't figure it out.
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:41 pm
by TheSauerkrautKid
But the question remains, what exactly happened off camera, and what about it made them so angry?
Next time... on Serial.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:42 pm
by ineptimusprime
jpswensen wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:40 pm
UtahStizzle wrote:newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...
There was a Nevada staffer who went around the corner for about 30 seconds. When he came back around the corner, I can only imagine he said something that caused the reaction. Or they heard something echoing down the hall.
....like the dulcet tones of Neil Diamond?
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:46 pm
by diddy
usufan1 wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:35 pm
Ridiculous how giddy Nisre ZouZoua is as his team charges down the hall.
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Ah man this guy was a homie. We yelled at him all game and he would just laugh and was having fun with us. He must just like conflict.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:47 pm
by TrueBlue
diddy wrote:usufan1 wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:35 pm
Ridiculous how giddy Nisre ZouZoua is as his team charges down the hall.
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Ah man this guy was a homie. We yelled at him all game and he would just laugh and was having fun with us. He must just like conflict.
I agree. I like that he thinks it's funny
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:47 pm
by ozzie1p
It looked like sweet caroline (I'll call him sweet C for short) was purposely delaying for something. He just did not want to get into that locker room. He looked like a coiled spring just waiting for someone to set him off. He probably thought he heard something and that's all it took.... somebody could have come in the tunnel and yelled "Go Aggie's".
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Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:54 pm
by slcagg
For those of you who don’t want to watch the full videos, ksl provided a pretty good condensed version.
Re: Here are the security tapes.
Posted: March 4th, 2019, 8:56 pm
by slcagg
Still blown away by Musselman and his lack of response.
Very impressed by the level headedness of trey porter. And the player smiling is pretty funny imo. Like I’ve been saying the problem starts with the head. And by his reaction to entire thing both in the video and the past couple of days I think it stinks.
