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Can someone GRAMA the written statement(s) submitted by USU to the MW?
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Looks like a guy who really cares about that Wolfpack family of his, or more like a dude who just farted on the elevator and fleeing the scene.
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I timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pmThis. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pmBut is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
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Actually a couple assistants start taking off before Caroline if you watch closely. Also looks like they're yelling at someone in the distance...
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Yep, that's him. Someone needs to ask him to clarify what was said. He clearly heard it. He reacts slightly by looking down the hall then steps into the middle of the hall to diffuse the situation.
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Would this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pmI timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pmThis. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pmBut is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
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PossibleKohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pmWould this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pmI timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pmThis. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pmBut is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
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I believe that there are the only views. The one view is facing our locker room but our players were still out on the floor I believe.
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Is there a time stamp on the videos? My phone video of Sweet Caroline has it stamped at 9:12/9:13. Maybe the players were singing it up the tunnelMrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:10 pmPossibleKohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pmWould this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pmI timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pmThis. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pmBut is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
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I'm thinking this kid is seriously mentally ill. Looked like a psychotic break.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Can't believe there is no camera covering the entrance to our locker room.ProvoAggie wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:14 pmI believe that there are the only views. The one view is facing our locker room but our players were still out on the floor I believe.
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Unrelated note - from the "court view behind the students" about two minutes in I love that Coach Smith found his way to Stew near halfcourt and gave him a hug.
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So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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These views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
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At least it verified what 22 was saying earlier, since some people weren't trusting his source for some reason.bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pmThese views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
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I'd be very interested to see the two videos of the hallway and the baseline of the arena synced up.
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I was over it until Musselman’s wife tweeted that bullcrap. That pushed me over the edge. I hope Nevada loses every game they ever play regardless of the impact to the league. By far the most disgusting part of this whole mess IMO. What a joke.bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pmThese views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
It's time to move on. This is totally out of hand. We won, they lost. Big game tomorrow.
I agree it’s time to move on.
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Completely agree.bluegrouse wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:28 pmI was over it until Musselman’s wife tweeted that bullcrap. That pushed me over the edge. I hope Nevada loses every game they ever play regardless of the impact to the league. By far the most disgusting part of this whole mess IMO. What a joke.bpd wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:24 pmThese views don't really tell us much that we already don't know. The Nevada staff are reacting to something being said down the hall, before Caroline bolts. What is said we will never know, I am guessing something by the USU coaching staff. There has to be video of USU locker room.
I think Mussleman is out of control and I think his wife lost it tonight. That pissed me off.
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I agree it’s time to move on.
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It would be nice to know if Sweet Caroline sung up the tunnel is what triggered him. Sounds like an awful good cheer for the MWCT, maybe with some modified lyrics to mock his berserker rage.
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No time stamp, I just watched the video and timed how much time elapsed from when caroline walked up the tunnel to when I thought I saw USU players start to walk up the tunnel. It's only about a 2 minute difference.pablohoney wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:15 pmIs there a time stamp on the videos? My phone video of Sweet Caroline has it stamped at 9:12/9:13. Maybe the players were singing it up the tunnelMrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:10 pmPossibleKohnDome wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:08 pmWould this have been the same time that we started singing Sweet Caroline??? Maybe the team was singing it as well??MrBiggle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:02 pmI timed the team walking up the tunnel and it looked like it was the same time Caroline takes off...Ahbye wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:45 pmThis. He went down the hall to address a complaint about our fans touching players. Keep in mind the usu team has yet to arrive at their locker room.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 7:43 pmBut is also shocked when they run by. Maybe they asked him if they could go down the hall or something.
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Thats what I thought initially as well, but they just run right by him. It looks like Ragland never made it around the corner.newhouse9 wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:23 pmSo, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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Good job standing up for USU to musselmans wife on twitter. Totally uncalled for on her part.UtahStizzle wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:37 pmNevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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There was a Nevada staffer who went around the corner for about 30 seconds. When he came back around the corner, I can only imagine he said something that caused the reaction. Or they heard something echoing down the hall.UtahStizzle wrote:Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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Is that a Nevada staffer that comes around at the end, right before they rush past man bun? I couldn't figure it out.
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But the question remains, what exactly happened off camera, and what about it made them so angry?
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....like the dulcet tones of Neil Diamond?jpswensen wrote: ↑March 4th, 2019, 8:40 pmThere was a Nevada staffer who went around the corner for about 30 seconds. When he came back around the corner, I can only imagine he said something that caused the reaction. Or they heard something echoing down the hall.UtahStizzle wrote:Nevada staff is running towards something before Caroline. Something was going on...newhouse9 wrote:So, I believe that whatever occurred between Ragland and the Nevada coach/GA was communicated in the Nevada locker room. That set off Caroline who clearly was having "short fuse" issues. Nothing else makes sense.
I think Hartwell's apology is about the staffer (Ragland?) who said/did something inappropriately. I don't think Hartwell apologized for USU doing anything wrong.
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Ah man this guy was a homie. We yelled at him all game and he would just laugh and was having fun with us. He must just like conflict.
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I agree. I like that he thinks it's funny
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It looked like sweet caroline (I'll call him sweet C for short) was purposely delaying for something. He just did not want to get into that locker room. He looked like a coiled spring just waiting for someone to set him off. He probably thought he heard something and that's all it took.... somebody could have come in the tunnel and yelled "Go Aggie's".
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For those of you who don’t want to watch the full videos, ksl provided a pretty good condensed version.
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Still blown away by Musselman and his lack of response.
Very impressed by the level headedness of trey porter. And the player smiling is pretty funny imo. Like I’ve been saying the problem starts with the head. And by his reaction to entire thing both in the video and the past couple of days I think it stinks.
Very impressed by the level headedness of trey porter. And the player smiling is pretty funny imo. Like I’ve been saying the problem starts with the head. And by his reaction to entire thing both in the video and the past couple of days I think it stinks.