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Post by aggiesdidwhat » January 26th, 2022, 10:46 pm

Great game Aggies!

Question guys, I haven't been able to watch a ton this year. But recently got to watch. I feel like Dorius plays really well. I noticed Horvath seemed to struggle on both ends. Why not more time for Dorius? Am I missing something?



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Post by FL350Aggie » January 26th, 2022, 10:51 pm

I’ve always been a fan, he plays hard and gives good minutes. He was HUGE tonight!



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Post by Aggie84025 » January 26th, 2022, 10:55 pm

He was awesome tonight. He is really playing his role well. Not a great offensive player, but is a good defender, rebounder and can finish pretty well around the rim.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by dirtnsnow » January 26th, 2022, 11:17 pm

He can cause issues with spacing because he's not much of a threat outside of 6-8 feet. He's also not a guy that will allow you to switch much on defense. That being said, he had a good game, and is not a liability.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Yossarian » January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am

He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket. He acts like he wants to dunk everything. We haven't had a center like that since, what? Wilkinson? He's a big strong body that is effective within 6 feet of the basket on both ends of the floor.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aglicious » January 27th, 2022, 12:35 am

Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket. He acts like he wants to dunk everything. We haven't had a center like that since, what? Wilkinson? He's a big strong body that is effective within 6 feet of the basket on both ends of the floor.
Mr. Queta would like a word.

Wilkinson dunking? He could barely get off the ground. I believe he holds the record among players over 6'-9" that were blocked by players 6'-0" and under. He did have a sweet baby hook game with either hand and used the glass like a pro though.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Yossarian » January 27th, 2022, 1:05 am

Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:35 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket. He acts like he wants to dunk everything. We haven't had a center like that since, what? Wilkinson? He's a big strong body that is effective within 6 feet of the basket on both ends of the floor.
Mr. Queta would like a word.

Wilkinson dunking? He could barely get off the ground. I believe he holds the record among players over 6'-9" that were blocked by players 6'-0" and under. He did have a sweet baby hook game with either hand and used the glass like a pro though.
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Post by ususports » January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am

Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by nswaggie » January 27th, 2022, 6:27 am

ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
I haven’t watched every game so maybe I’m missing something. I see him catching pretty much everything thrown his way, including a lot of passes at his knees. I I think he has pretty good hands for a traditional big. A lot of his dunks are because of his ability to catch difficult passes.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aggie84025 » January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am

ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by AggiePT » January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aggie in Boise » January 27th, 2022, 9:18 am

During the Duryea years I would have given both of my left testicles to have a big like Dorius. He played strong and had a hell of a game last night.
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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by SSaggie » January 27th, 2022, 9:23 am

Dorius looks a lot more comfortable out there nowadays. Maybe he responds better to Odom compared to Smith and has more confidence as a result.

Being more comfortable would help catch more passes. Some younger players will struggle to catch passes at times because they are too uptight.

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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aglicious » January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am

AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Yossarian » January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am

Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aggie in Boise » January 27th, 2022, 11:12 am

Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
It drives me crazy when players do that especially big players like 7 footers.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by bpd » January 27th, 2022, 11:15 am

Dorius matches up well with other big centers. But the problem is, he is very slow and when there is 6'9" or 6' 8" center who is quick, Dorius can't handle it.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Yossarian » January 27th, 2022, 11:16 am

Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:12 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
It drives me crazy when players do that especially big players like 7 footers.
Horvath does it a lot, too. He tries to dribble in traffic and they always rip it away from him.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Aggie in Boise » January 27th, 2022, 11:22 am

Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:16 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:12 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
It drives me crazy when players do that especially big players like 7 footers.
Horvath does it a lot, too. He tries to dribble in traffic and they always rip it away from him.
He dribbles way too much.


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Post by Aggie84025 » January 27th, 2022, 11:25 am

Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:22 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:16 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:12 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
It drives me crazy when players do that especially big players like 7 footers.
Horvath does it a lot, too. He tries to dribble in traffic and they always rip it away from him.
He dribbles way too much.
Whenever any of our team dribbles too much it is generally not a great sign for that possession. We are best when the ball is hot potato back and forth with other players cutting. When we go ISO or dribble a lot we seem have issues with getting the ball stolen.
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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by ususports » January 27th, 2022, 12:10 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 9:18 am
During the Duryea years I would have given both of my left testicles to have a big like Dorius. He played strong and had a hell of a game last night.
I couldn’t help but notice that you would have saved your third left testicle for a rainy day. Good call!
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Post by MrBiggle » January 27th, 2022, 12:37 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:25 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:22 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:16 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 11:12 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:10 am
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 10:03 am
AggiePT wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:27 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:21 am
ususports wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 1:29 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket.
The alternative is Horvath commiting 5 turnovers (literally) by dribbling ball into the key and then politely offering the ball on a silver platter to his defender.
Horvath really struggled with turnovers last night. Needs to improve on that.
This was one of the few things that frustrated me in this game. Horvath looked so soft. He couldn't hit a layup to save his life.
I was happy to see him finally just dunk that one at the end. He got fouled by Mensah on that dunk too but they never called it of course. Maybe he will start to realize that is what it is going to take for him to finish at the rim in this league.
Agreed. He showed some life and fire going up strong and dunking that one. He brings that ball low and it gets stolen all of the time. He needs to keep the ball high and attack the basket. This will draw more double-teams from which he can pass out of. He is a good passer when he isn't getting the ball taken from him.
It drives me crazy when players do that especially big players like 7 footers.
Horvath does it a lot, too. He tries to dribble in traffic and they always rip it away from him.
He dribbles way too much.
Whenever any of our team dribbles too much it is generally not a great sign for that possession. We are best when the ball is hot potato back and forth with other players cutting. When we go ISO or dribble a lot we seem have issues with getting the ball stolen.
I had to laugh last night when the announcers said Bean needed to have the ball more and go ISO. That's not his game at all!


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by WAAggie » January 27th, 2022, 12:42 pm

When Bean is best, he is moving off-ball and slashing for hoops or assists. His moves to the paint and 10-foot shots are great. he is not a back-em down, or 1 on 1 blow by your man player like the SDSU guy was. He was very good when isolating.



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by jpswensen » January 27th, 2022, 4:35 pm

aggiesdidwhat wrote:
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Great game Aggies!

Question guys, I haven't been able to watch a ton this year. But recently got to watch. I feel like Dorius plays really well. I noticed Horvath seemed to struggle on both ends. Why not more time for Dorius? Am I missing something?
I feel like Horvath's movement lately has looked like he is hiding a minor injury. Just doesn't seem as fluid or quick off his first step.
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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by GUS » January 27th, 2022, 8:17 pm

GameFAQS can you put up a video of Mensa's first basket. It was right at the start of the game. I'd like to see where his heel is placed when he catches the ball.



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Post by GameFAQSAggie » January 27th, 2022, 8:45 pm

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GameFAQS can you put up a video of Mensa's first basket. It was right at the start of the game. I'd like to see where his heel is placed when he catches the ball.
You'll see that at 2:50



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Yossarian » January 27th, 2022, 9:01 pm

GUS wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 8:17 pm
GameFAQS can you put up a video of Mensa's first basket. It was right at the start of the game. I'd like to see where his heel is placed when he catches the ball.
I rewinded my DVR a coyle time looking at the same thing last night. It is close, but not close enough to call or overturn. It is definitely closer than Queta s was in the tournament that was called out of bounds


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by GUS » January 28th, 2022, 3:48 am

He slides his heel back right before he makes his move and it's definitely out of bounds.



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Post by jpswensen » January 28th, 2022, 6:03 pm

GUS wrote:
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He slides his heel back right before he makes his move and it's definitely out of bounds.
To me it looked like he was up on his toes, and that his heel was out of bounds, but not on the ground out of bounds.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Stucki » January 28th, 2022, 6:41 pm

Wilkinson dunking? He could barely get off the ground. I believe he holds the record among players over 6'-9" that were blocked by players 6'-0" and under. He did have a sweet baby hook game with either hand and used the glass like a pro though.
He was a bit younger, either still in high school or just after, but I actually saw him do a 360 dunk between games of a 9th grade league I coached in; so I wouldn't agree with your characterization of his play.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by Pacobag » January 28th, 2022, 7:57 pm

Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:35 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket. He acts like he wants to dunk everything. We haven't had a center like that since, what? Wilkinson? He's a big strong body that is effective within 6 feet of the basket on both ends of the floor.
Mr. Queta would like a word.

Wilkinson dunking? He could barely get off the ground. I believe he holds the record among players over 6'-9" that were blocked by players 6'-0" and under. He did have a sweet baby hook game with either hand and used the glass like a pro though.
I just watched a Wilkinson highlight video from his USU days, not as many dunks as I remembered....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLg_sxuoo9Y



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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by MrBiggle » January 28th, 2022, 8:35 pm

Pacobag wrote:
January 28th, 2022, 7:57 pm
Aglicious wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:35 am
Yossarian wrote:
January 27th, 2022, 12:26 am
He doesn't have the best hands and he he gets the ball stripped too often when he brings it down to his waist, but I love his aggressiveness in attacking the basket. He acts like he wants to dunk everything. We haven't had a center like that since, what? Wilkinson? He's a big strong body that is effective within 6 feet of the basket on both ends of the floor.
Mr. Queta would like a word.

Wilkinson dunking? He could barely get off the ground. I believe he holds the record among players over 6'-9" that were blocked by players 6'-0" and under. He did have a sweet baby hook game with either hand and used the glass like a pro though.
I just watched a Wilkinson highlight video from his USU days, not as many dunks as I remembered....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLg_sxuoo9Y
It took Reed and Jardine to start getting dunks every game.


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Re: Dorius (hope I spelled that right)

Post by WAAggie » January 28th, 2022, 9:23 pm

Great hands, great court position awareness and quick trigger/release. Fun to see those players from that era.


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