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Post by Bullnamed_gus » November 1st, 2024, 6:42 pm

It looks like the first Projected Cap Is going to be 20.5m with escalators going up.

The ability to revenue share and pay athletes directly will really help our portal/lack of NIL issue, in my opinion.

Will we always have the most to offer? No.

But let’s say you’re a star athlete here making 1-2 million a year. With guaranteed playing time and a clear path to the pro’s. You’re not leaving unless it’s other worldly amount.

Right now we are losing guys for 100k or maybe a little more.

That won’t happen nearly as much during the revenue sharing era.

Sabau has said that Utah State is going to opt in to the full amount.

What I don’t understand about all of this is how will Title IX impact this?

Dellenger says that schools are saying that 90+% will go to
football and hoops.

I also really hope this comes with contracts allowed so that in the off scenario we do lose super stars we can at least recoup that money and use it on other players.

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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by trevordude » November 1st, 2024, 7:59 pm

I'm gonna fight with sooo many players mom's now
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Post by Yossarian » November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm

How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Bullnamed_gus » November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.



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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by cval » November 1st, 2024, 9:01 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
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I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
That would not be the end of the world in my opinion.

Contracts could include things like penalties for breach, or leaving early, or deciding to redshirt in order to extort a higher salary.

Might be the only way to get this thing back under some semblance of order and reasonableness
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Post by USU78 » November 1st, 2024, 9:22 pm

Dockworkers strike to put more members on "the list" of union faithful getting paid for staying home and following CNN. Starters at P4 do work stoppages homecoming week so they don't have to do windsprints.
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Yossarian » November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?


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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by LarryTheAggie » November 1st, 2024, 11:34 pm

Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?
If the school is not in a "right to work" state... yes...



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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by aggiesdidwhat » November 2nd, 2024, 12:26 am

LarryTheAggie wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 11:34 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?
If the school is not in a "right to work" state... yes...
Sorry guys,
How is this any different then pros?? Half the Aggie fans live pay check to pay check (i have no idea... Just saying) and we're supposed to sit here and watch some kid make Millions :(
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Blitz79 » November 2nd, 2024, 7:43 am

aggiesdidwhat wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 12:26 am
LarryTheAggie wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 11:34 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?
If the school is not in a "right to work" state... yes...
Sorry guys,
How is this any different then pros?? Half the Aggie fans live pay check to pay check (i have no idea... Just saying) and we're supposed to sit here and watch some kid make Millions :(
How is this feeling different than before? They were already getting paid.

It's like when we asked for donations so we can pay our coaches more and they are already making more money than most. Head coaches 10x 20X.

Where is USU going to get $20 mill from to pay the players?
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Bullnamed_gus » November 2nd, 2024, 8:15 am

Blitz79 wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 7:43 am
aggiesdidwhat wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 12:26 am
LarryTheAggie wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 11:34 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?
If the school is not in a "right to work" state... yes...
Sorry guys,
How is this any different then pros?? Half the Aggie fans live pay check to pay check (i have no idea... Just saying) and we're supposed to sit here and watch some kid make Millions :(
How is this feeling different than before? They were already getting paid.

It's like when we asked for donations so we can pay our coaches more and they are already making more money than most. Head coaches 10x 20X.

Where is USU going to get $20 mill from to pay the players?
Our budget last year was nearly 50 million.

So while I don’t think we will get to the full amount year one, I bet by the time the PAC rolls around in 2026 we will be awfully close.

Just for example. Last years budget was with a 3.5m media deal.

When it’s 15 in 2026, we will be able to spend 65m and if we cut some expenses elsewhere or get institutional help we will be right around that number.



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Post by 3rdGenAggie » November 2nd, 2024, 8:19 am

This will be in addition to NIL. Stars are going to expect huge NIL (really pay-for-play) payments on the side as well.
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Post by Bullnamed_gus » November 2nd, 2024, 10:06 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 8:19 am
This will be in addition to NIL. Stars are going to expect huge NIL (really pay-for-play) payments on the side as well.
Correct. Allegedly the NCAA is going to start looking into NIL after this gets passed.(I’ll hold my breath) but if that happens they will enforce rules so that NIL is actual market value. Again if it’s the NCAA I’d be shocked but we can hope.

Regardless I don’t think we will ever be able to pay people more than a P5 or whatever, but what will happen is the high character guys that just aren’t in it for the money won’t have to choose between very small amounts (maybe zero) at Utah state and an average amount at a P5,.

Now they’ll be making a lot here
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Hondo20 » November 2nd, 2024, 10:35 pm

You realize that the PAC is not going to be a power conference. There isn’t going to be a P-5, it will remain P4. So I don’t think you will be getting the revenue sharing you think you are going to get.



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Post by Bullnamed_gus » November 2nd, 2024, 11:01 pm

Hondo20 wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 10:35 pm
You realize that the PAC is not going to be a power conference. There isn’t going to be a P-5, it will remain P4. So I don’t think you will be getting the revenue sharing you think you are going to get.
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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by Aggie702 » November 3rd, 2024, 12:09 am

aggiesdidwhat wrote:
November 2nd, 2024, 12:26 am
LarryTheAggie wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 11:34 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:32 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
Do you think they will force the kids to join a union as a condition of their scholarship so they can participate in CBAs?
If the school is not in a "right to work" state... yes...
Sorry guys,
How is this any different then pros?? Half the Aggie fans live pay check to pay check (i have no idea... Just saying) and we're supposed to sit here and watch some kid make Millions :(
If those fans had the same abilities the athletes do, they'd also be trying to profit. If you're lucky enough to get paid to play a game, you look to maximize it every time.



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Post by Aggie702 » November 3rd, 2024, 12:11 am

cval wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 9:01 pm
Bullnamed_gus wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm
Yossarian wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 8:18 pm
How can they impose a cap or revenue sharing? This doesn't make any sense now that it has been determined the kids are free to get paid on the open market. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paris?
The Power Conferences are trying to put the contents of Pandora"s Box they opened back into the box. I predict lawsuits and challenges to this.
.
I imagine this is going to end in collective bargaining.
That would not be the end of the world in my opinion.

Contracts could include things like penalties for breach, or leaving early, or deciding to redshirt in order to extort a higher salary.

Might be the only way to get this thing back under some semblance of order and reasonableness
I hope so. Imagine if Osobor had a contract and Washington had to cut us a second big check to buy him out. Instead, we only got a buyout for Sprinkle.



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Re: Revenue Sharing:

Post by dogpowell » November 3rd, 2024, 9:49 am

If Athletes are getting paid, then NIL donars need to institute contracts on $ to stay and play and see how fast the merry go round of the portal dries up. Depending on how much they make, the athlete can grow up and pay their own tuition and fees etc and quit putting all this nonsense on the backs of the tax payers. The athetes have been experiencing free reign for quite some time on NIL $/portal transfers and tax payer funded tuition/fees/books/housing and food. It is time past due to place some boundaries on all this nonsense
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Post by SeattleAg » November 3rd, 2024, 11:35 am

Entertaining side note to all of this is all the free market capitalists in the country losing their minds and demanding some sort of regulation to end the Wild West free for all. Kind of like how US pro sports are all vaguely socialist while Euro football is the most cutthroat free market out there.
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