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PAC 12 update

Post by SLB » October 2nd, 2024, 9:40 am


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 9:52 am

Meanwhile:



I believe nothing is imminent, but I expect it'll be Memphis when something is announced.

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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by ineptimusprime » October 2nd, 2024, 9:58 am

Well, I guess we can all get back to work now.

Smart to get the media numbers pinned down to lure the best candidates possible at the best deal possible. There will literally always be a warm body or two to invite if it gets to that level.

I’m glad the PAC isn’t knee jerk inviting a Texas State or something.

Also leaves some time for that FOMO to fester at Memphis.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by ViAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 10:10 am

Time is on our side with this one. Meanwhile Texas State is dissing the MWC :lol:


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by 88USUAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 10:55 am

I know this is not a popular take, but UNLV is to me the best option out there. I like regional rivalries, and Vegas has a ton of upside. I hope they can get their house in order financially.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by NowhereLandAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 11:09 am

88USUAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 10:55 am
I know this is not a popular take, but UNLV is to me the best option out there. I like regional rivalries, and Vegas has a ton of upside. I hope they can get their house in order financially.
They can be added at a much cheaper rate in a few years. Time is on the PAC's side.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by ViAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 11:28 am

88USUAggie wrote:
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I know this is not a popular take, but UNLV is to me the best option out there. I like regional rivalries, and Vegas has a ton of upside. I hope they can get their house in order financially.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by AggieUprising50 » October 2nd, 2024, 12:07 pm

I wouldn't mind Memphis. I also wouldn't mind having North Dakota State on a football only invite. I wonder if we could also add South Dakota State (Football only) and St Mary's (Basketball) as well. That would be a great conference for both Football and Basketball.

At the end of the day, no matter who we get, we will automatically be a step above the MWC. Better teams, better brands, and more revenue.

We also position ourselves as a great landing spot for teams like Arizona, Colorado, and Kansas if the Big 12 implodes.



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by TrueAG » October 2nd, 2024, 12:10 pm

No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by ViAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 12:13 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:07 pm
I wouldn't mind Memphis. I also wouldn't mind having North Dakota State on a football only invite. I wonder if we could also add South Dakota State (Football only) and St Mary's (Basketball) as well. That would be a great conference for both Football and Basketball.

At the end of the day, no matter who we get, we will automatically be a step above the MWC. Better teams, better brands, and more revenue.

We also position ourselves as a great landing spot for teams like Arizona, Colorado, and Kansas if the Big 12 implodes.
I don't care to add FCS schools, we have way too many in FBS as it stands now. I'd much rather add Memphis and one other full member from the AAC (UTSA or Tejas Norte if desperate enough) and then peel off Wichita State for oly sports. I'd rather us do that than add St. Mary's or especially GCU. Again, if we're going to add GCU, we might as well add Cal Baptist if we're doing that. Hell I'd rather we start raiding the Cal Bus League before adding more privates.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by AggieUprising50 » October 2nd, 2024, 12:20 pm

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No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
I was saying this under the assumption that Wyoming is staying in the MWC. I would gladly take UNLV, New Mexio, or Wyoming in the Pac 12.

If we aren't able to poach any more Mountain West teams, I wouldn't be against adding the Dakotas for football. They are good programs that bring a good brand recognition that would help boost the Pac-12 reputation like how JMU's football program has helped the Sunbelt conference.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by 2004AG » October 2nd, 2024, 12:24 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote:I wouldn't mind Memphis. I also wouldn't mind having North Dakota State on a football only invite. I wonder if we could also add South Dakota State (Football only) and St Mary's (Basketball) as well. That would be a great conference for both Football and Basketball.

At the end of the day, no matter who we get, we will automatically be a step above the MWC. Better teams, better brands, and more revenue.

We also position ourselves as a great landing spot for teams like Arizona, Colorado, and Kansas if the Big 12 implodes.
You’d really rather have FCS teams than Nevada and New Mexico and UNLV?


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by Bullnamed_gus » October 2nd, 2024, 12:24 pm

2004AG wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:24 pm
AggieUprising50 wrote:I wouldn't mind Memphis. I also wouldn't mind having North Dakota State on a football only invite. I wonder if we could also add South Dakota State (Football only) and St Mary's (Basketball) as well. That would be a great conference for both Football and Basketball.

At the end of the day, no matter who we get, we will automatically be a step above the MWC. Better teams, better brands, and more revenue.

We also position ourselves as a great landing spot for teams like Arizona, Colorado, and Kansas if the Big 12 implodes.
You’d really rather have FCS teams than Nevada and New Mexico and UNLV?


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by ViAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 12:25 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:20 pm
TrueAG wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:10 pm
No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
I was saying this under the assumption that Wyoming is staying in the MWC. I would gladly take UNLV, New Mexio, or Wyoming in the Pac 12.

If we aren't able to poach any more Mountain West teams, I wouldn't be against adding the Dakotas for football. They are good programs that bring a good brand recognition that would help boost the Pac-12 reputation like how JMU's football program has helped the Sunbelt conference.
We can easily poach from the MWC in a couple of years after the dust and lawsuits are settled.


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by bwcrc » October 2nd, 2024, 12:26 pm

88USUAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 10:55 am
I know this is not a popular take, but UNLV is to me the best option out there. I like regional rivalries, and Vegas has a ton of upside. I hope they can get their house in order financially.
I'm not sold on UNLV being the best option. The only positive UNLV really brings is it being in a large metropolitan area, similar to SJSU. And similar to SJSU in the Bay Area, no one in Vegas really cares about UNLV. The football team has been a bottom dweller for decades and it is unlikely this year is anything more than an abnormality. The basketball team last won a regular season championship in 2000, a conference tournament championship in 2008, and last appeared in the NCAA tournament in 2013 (although they did make it to the NIT quarterfinals in 2024). The AD's office is in a financial mess that it is apparently banking on the PAC monies to get it out of. Because of that mess, they are really hamstrung on reinvesting in the teams and facilities.

If UNLV is the best option, it is probably only because it is likely the easiest city to fly into out west.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by AggieUprising50 » October 2nd, 2024, 12:33 pm

ViAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:25 pm
AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:20 pm
TrueAG wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:10 pm
No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
I was saying this under the assumption that Wyoming is staying in the MWC. I would gladly take UNLV, New Mexio, or Wyoming in the Pac 12.

If we aren't able to poach any more Mountain West teams, I wouldn't be against adding the Dakotas for football. They are good programs that bring a good brand recognition that would help boost the Pac-12 reputation like how JMU's football program has helped the Sunbelt conference.
We can easily poach from the MWC in a couple of years after the dust and lawsuits are settled.
Totally. But keep in mind that we do need to add an eight team in order for the conference to be considered FBS status. If we wait too long without adding anyone, we run the risk of not being considered FBS and giving those reminaing MWC teams leverage.

If the remaining MWC teams stay put this year, I'd rather add an independent (like NMSU) or a North Dakota State to get to 8 teams, then poach the other teams later.



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by NowhereLandAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 12:39 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:33 pm
ViAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:25 pm
AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:20 pm
TrueAG wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:10 pm
No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
I was saying this under the assumption that Wyoming is staying in the MWC. I would gladly take UNLV, New Mexio, or Wyoming in the Pac 12.

If we aren't able to poach any more Mountain West teams, I wouldn't be against adding the Dakotas for football. They are good programs that bring a good brand recognition that would help boost the Pac-12 reputation like how JMU's football program has helped the Sunbelt conference.
We can easily poach from the MWC in a couple of years after the dust and lawsuits are settled.
Totally. But keep in mind that we do need to add an eight team in order for the conference to be considered FBS status. If we wait too long without adding anyone, we run the risk of not being considered FBS and giving those reminaing MWC teams leverage.

If the remaining MWC teams stay put this year, I'd rather add an independent (like NMSU) or a North Dakota State to get to 8 teams, then poach the other teams later.
McMurphy is saying several teams are reaching out to the PAC, but they are not negotiating entrance until the media deal is done.

There is no need to worry about not having enough teams...
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by SLB » October 2nd, 2024, 1:12 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:39 pm
AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:33 pm
ViAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:25 pm
AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:20 pm
TrueAG wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 12:10 pm
No to the Dakotas, rather have Wyoming.
I was saying this under the assumption that Wyoming is staying in the MWC. I would gladly take UNLV, New Mexio, or Wyoming in the Pac 12.

If we aren't able to poach any more Mountain West teams, I wouldn't be against adding the Dakotas for football. They are good programs that bring a good brand recognition that would help boost the Pac-12 reputation like how JMU's football program has helped the Sunbelt conference.
We can easily poach from the MWC in a couple of years after the dust and lawsuits are settled.
Totally. But keep in mind that we do need to add an eight team in order for the conference to be considered FBS status. If we wait too long without adding anyone, we run the risk of not being considered FBS and giving those reminaing MWC teams leverage.

If the remaining MWC teams stay put this year, I'd rather add an independent (like NMSU) or a North Dakota State to get to 8 teams, then poach the other teams later.
McMurphy is saying several teams are reaching out to the PAC, but they are not negotiating entrance until the media deal is done.

There is no need to worry about not having enough teams...
If it is large enough, then the ACC-3 get into the picture (Cal, Stanford, and SMU).



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Re: PAC 12 update

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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by JFWAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 1:31 pm

MWC teams are off the table, the targets are Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, and USF



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by LarryTheAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm

Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by SLB » October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
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It’s going to be 2 of Memphis, Tulane, UTSA M
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm

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It's a pretty safe bet that Memphis and another AAC school end up in the Pac 12 as the 8th and 9th members.

I also think that's why Texas St said no to the MWC. They'll be one of the first calls the AAC makes to backfill.


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Re: PAC 12 update

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SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
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October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by TrueAggieman » October 2nd, 2024, 1:42 pm

SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
Of Florida hahaha
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Re: PAC 12 update

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LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
In a good basketball conference, like the Pac 12 is going to be, I think 11 members is perfect. It makes for 20 conference games with everyone playing everyone home and home. With 12 teams you have to start missing teams or only playing once per year.


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Re: PAC 12 update

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aceofspadeskb wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.

Yes... and here they are on the west coast



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by thrashsoundly » October 2nd, 2024, 1:45 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.
University of Sioux Falls
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Re: PAC 12 update

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TrueAggieman wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:42 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
Of Florida hahaha
They even have a bay on that west coast



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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 1:47 pm

thrashsoundly wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:45 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.
University of Sioux Falls
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by thrashsoundly » October 2nd, 2024, 1:48 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:47 pm
thrashsoundly wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:45 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.
University of Sioux Falls
University of St Francis
Joliet or Fort Wayne?



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Re: PAC 12 update

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thrashsoundly wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:48 pm
3rdGenAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:47 pm
thrashsoundly wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:45 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:41 pm
SLB wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:39 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 2nd, 2024, 1:36 pm
Man, USF is so far away, i Guess that is worse for them than for us. It's just one game for each team for us.

Even still I would prefer to grab, Memphis, Tulane and UTSA. Get to 10 football members, then take Wichita State for all other sports and be a 12 basketball teams.
USF is on the west coast.
USF = University of South Florida.
University of Sioux Falls
University of St Francis
Joliet or Fort Wayne?
Joliet to get a piece of the Chicago market...obviously.


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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by WAaggieFan » October 2nd, 2024, 1:59 pm

bwcrc wrote:
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October 2nd, 2024, 10:55 am
I know this is not a popular take, but UNLV is to me the best option out there. I like regional rivalries, and Vegas has a ton of upside. I hope they can get their house in order financially.
I'm not sold on UNLV being the best option. The only positive UNLV really brings is it being in a large metropolitan area, similar to SJSU. And similar to SJSU in the Bay Area, no one in Vegas really cares about UNLV. The football team has been a bottom dweller for decades and it is unlikely this year is anything more than an abnormality. The basketball team last won a regular season championship in 2000, a conference tournament championship in 2008, and last appeared in the NCAA tournament in 2013 (although they did make it to the NIT quarterfinals in 2024). The AD's office is in a financial mess that it is apparently banking on the PAC monies to get it out of. Because of that mess, they are really hamstrung on reinvesting in the teams and facilities.

If UNLV is the best option, it is probably only because it is likely the easiest city to fly into out west.
UNLV is fool’s gold.
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Re: PAC 12 update

Post by NowhereLandAggie » October 2nd, 2024, 1:59 pm

SDSU could be added to the conference, since it brings in the Brookings market.



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