What head coaches that you like for next season

coolag · Post by **coolag** » October 17th, 2024, 10:00 pm

We have fans that boo. No good coach wants this job.

MWCFAN12 · Post by **MWCFAN12** » October 17th, 2024, 10:01 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 9:33 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 9:15 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 7:26 pm

Aglicious wrote:It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

What are some example of “higher sights” that’s realistic ?

Jay is a P4 coordinator who has been a head coach. A MAC coach isn’t a “higher sight”hire.

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The only kind of coach that I would say is clearly a higher sight than Jay Hill would be if you could convince someone like Chris Peterson to come out of retirement. Which I think is doubtful.

I think others would be on the same level as Hill but not clearly better.
That's why I used the word "realistic". Chris Peterson is not realistic in any sense of the word.

Nick Saban & Andy Reid are more realistic than Chris PetersEn

josephconlin · Post by **josephconlin** » October 17th, 2024, 10:11 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 9:25 pm
I just can’t tolerate more years of having to endure Wells’ .23 win percentage in one score games. His end of game management was deplorable and he always found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Ah, another familiar chestnut from the old days! The nostalgia nearly overwhelms.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2024, 10:13 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:47 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:02 pm
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/h ... 0673487018

Scotty and Hans talk about it in the first hour

Scotty says his big board (if not Nate Dreiling) is:

Jay Hill
Bronco Mendenhall

And Hans:
Jay Hill
Aaron Roderick(yuck lol)
Bronco Mendenhall
Jay Hill would be absolutely incredible. I agree with Scotty G that I’d hire him as soon as the contract gets off the printer.

Aaron Roderick is a dumb suggestion by somebody that thinks way too highly of byu.

There is no coach that I would be less excited about than Bronco. He has to be the most boring person on the planet earth. His football teams are boring to watch, and who wants to hire the guy that byu fired.

I’ve heard Hans and Scotty mention that they think Matt Wells should be given a call, and I could get excited about that too.

Doesn't Bronco have sons that play football? Laser and Tazer or some sh*t.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2024, 10:18 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:59 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:02 pm
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/h ... 0673487018

Scotty and Hans talk about it in the first hour

Scotty says his big board (if not Nate Dreiling) is:

Jay Hill
Bronco Mendenhall

And Hans:
Jay Hill
Aaron Roderick(yuck lol)
Bronco Mendenhall
Sounds like a Utah Radio show pandering to a Utah audience.

It's disrespectful honestly. Basically insinuating USU is only good enough to be a stepping stone for some utah or byu assistant, Fu*k that! Whoever USU hires next should (and probably will) be the best coach in the state.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2024, 10:21 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 7:26 pm

Aglicious wrote:It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

What are some example of “higher sights” that’s realistic ?

Jay is a P4 coordinator who has been a head coach. A MAC coach isn’t a “higher sight”hire.

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Brian Harsin.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2024, 10:22 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:13 pm

aggies22 wrote:
EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:47 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:02 pm
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/h ... 0673487018

Scotty and Hans talk about it in the first hour

Scotty says his big board (if not Nate Dreiling) is:

Jay Hill
Bronco Mendenhall

And Hans:
Jay Hill
Aaron Roderick(yuck lol)
Bronco Mendenhall
Jay Hill would be absolutely incredible. I agree with Scotty G that I’d hire him as soon as the contract gets off the printer.

Aaron Roderick is a dumb suggestion by somebody that thinks way too highly of byu.

There is no coach that I would be less excited about than Bronco. He has to be the most boring person on the planet earth. His football teams are boring to watch, and who wants to hire the guy that byu fired.

I’ve heard Hans and Scotty mention that they think Matt Wells should be given a call, and I could get excited about that too.
Matt Wells is absolutely interested.
I’m glad to hear that. He’s a good guy and a good coach. Our teams were tougher when Matt was the HC.

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That's a low bar.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » October 17th, 2024, 10:23 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 9:17 pm
Adding more to the list:
Jeff Grimes
Ryan Grubb
Brian Lindgren
Sean Lewis

Sean Lewis? As in the guy who was hired by San Diego State just this year Sean Lewis?

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2024, 10:29 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 9:25 pm
I just can’t tolerate more years of having to endure Wells’ .23 win percentage in one score games. His end of game management was deplorable and he always found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

1000% One of the worst game managers I've ever seen (just ask Texas Tech fans). His only exceptional year was his last here when we were blowing teams out by 30 a game with J-Love. Even then he found a way to sh*t his pants against bosie in a game we should have won.

NO Thanks!

jazzdog56466 · Post by **jazzdog56466** » October 17th, 2024, 10:45 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:50 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:03 pm
Jay Hill would be an excellent hire for a number of reasons, but I fear that ship may have sailed.
Why?

The next coach I predict to make 2-3 million per year.

The next coach will have a year to build up his team before entering the best g5 conference.

Because

1) He may not have interest in the job now after being spurned before. Also, he’s close with Bovee.

2) He’s done an impressive job at BYU, and frankly, he may receive better offers.

3) Our admin may not consider because they want to make their own splash hire. Probably out of state.

That’s why

I want hill. I think he would be a perfect fit for what we need. I just think it’s now a long shot

jazzdog56466 · Post by **jazzdog56466** » October 17th, 2024, 10:49 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:51 pm
It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

I really think we might be underestimating how successful Jay could be. He knows how to win. And he’s on a short list of guys who would most likely stay around for awhile. I think it’s well known he really doesn’t care to leave Utah—-my guess unless it was a perfect P5 head coach offer.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2024, 10:59 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:49 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:51 pm
It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

I really think we might be underestimating how successful Jay could be. He knows how to win. And he’s on a short list of guys who would most likely stay around for awhile. I think it’s well known he really doesn’t care to leave Utah—-my guess unless it was a perfect P5 head coach offer.

Those on the Jay Hill bandwagon, who do you think his coordinators would be?

jazzdog56466 · Post by **jazzdog56466** » October 17th, 2024, 11:00 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:59 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:49 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:51 pm
It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

I really think we might be underestimating how successful Jay could be. He knows how to win. And he’s on a short list of guys who would most likely stay around for awhile. I think it’s well known he really doesn’t care to leave Utah—-my guess unless it was a perfect P5 head coach offer.
Those on the Jay Hill bandwagon, who do you think his coordinators would be?

Good question 22. That I have no idea of.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 17th, 2024, 11:00 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:45 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:50 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:03 pm
Jay Hill would be an excellent hire for a number of reasons, but I fear that ship may have sailed.
Why?

The next coach I predict to make 2-3 million per year.

The next coach will have a year to build up his team before entering the best g5 conference.
Because

1) He may not have interest in the job now after being spurned before. Also, he’s close with Bovee.

2) He’s done an impressive job at BYU, and frankly, he may receive better offers.

3) Our admin may not consider because they want to make their own splash hire. Probably out of state.

That’s why

I want hill. I think he would be a perfect fit for what we need. I just think it’s now a long shot

1. Disagree in part. The admin that spurned him is out. Although his closeness with nicer could speak to a larger issue with the perception on “what happened to the previous guy that is well respected in the small coaching committee” but I think it’s mitigated with us going to the PAC.

2. He might

3. I doubt it. Hiring Hill wouldn’t be less of a splash at this point. They want culture it almost has to be someone like Hill.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 17th, 2024, 11:02 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:59 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:49 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:51 pm
It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

I really think we might be underestimating how successful Jay could be. He knows how to win. And he’s on a short list of guys who would most likely stay around for awhile. I think it’s well known he really doesn’t care to leave Utah—-my guess unless it was a perfect P5 head coach offer.
Those on the Jay Hill bandwagon, who do you think his coordinators would be?

Scott Frost and Gary Andersen

jazzdog56466 · Post by **jazzdog56466** » October 17th, 2024, 11:03 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 11:00 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:45 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:50 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:03 pm
Jay Hill would be an excellent hire for a number of reasons, but I fear that ship may have sailed.
Why?

The next coach I predict to make 2-3 million per year.

The next coach will have a year to build up his team before entering the best g5 conference.
Because

1) He may not have interest in the job now after being spurned before. Also, he’s close with Bovee.

2) He’s done an impressive job at BYU, and frankly, he may receive better offers.

3) Our admin may not consider because they want to make their own splash hire. Probably out of state.

That’s why

I want hill. I think he would be a perfect fit for what we need. I just think it’s now a long shot
1. Disagree in part. The admin that spurned him is out. Although his closeness with nicer could speak to a larger issue with the perception on “what happened to the previous guy that is well respected in the small coaching committee” but I think it’s mitigated with us going to the PAC.

2. He might

3. I doubt it. Hiring Hill wouldn’t be less of a splash at this point. They want culture it almost has to be someone like Hill.

I think he would be a solid hire. Hope it works out.

Agree he would be good for culture (for what we need right now), and probably offer a strong sense of stability. Hope he has interest.

Aggiefever · Post by **Aggiefever** » October 18th, 2024, 10:49 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 4:26 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:47 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 3:02 pm
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/h ... 0673487018

Scotty and Hans talk about it in the first hour

Scotty says his big board (if not Nate Dreiling) is:

Jay Hill
Bronco Mendenhall

And Hans:
Jay Hill
Aaron Roderick(yuck lol)
Bronco Mendenhall
Jay Hill would be absolutely incredible. I agree with Scotty G that I’d hire him as soon as the contract gets off the printer.

Aaron Roderick is a dumb suggestion by somebody that thinks way too highly of byu.

There is no coach that I would be less excited about than Bronco. He has to be the most boring person on the planet earth. His football teams are boring to watch, and who wants to hire the guy that byu fired.

I’ve heard Hans and Scotty mention that they think Matt Wells should be given a call, and I could get excited about that too.
Matt Wells is absolutely interested.

I know that I sound petty, but I don't want Matt Wells. I appreciate what he did while he was here, but it gives the impression that when you coach at USU, you can look for greener pastures and if it doesn't work out, you have a soft landing spot because we will take you back. It is the same thing as a player going into the portal knowing that they can always just get let back on the team.

Eternal Aggie · Post by **Eternal Aggie** » October 18th, 2024, 11:03 am

From the Athletic today:

"BYU defensive coordinator Jay Hill’s side of the ball has taken a big leap in Year 2 under his leadership, and the former Weber State coach is expected to get a really long look to fill the opening at Utah State, which is 1-5 under interim Nate Dreiling, who walked into a difficult situation after Blake Anderson’s summer firing."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/585079 ... gs-upsets/

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Post by **GeoAg** » October 18th, 2024, 11:27 am

Eternal Aggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 11:03 am
From the Athletic today:

"BYU defensive coordinator Jay Hill’s side of the ball has taken a big leap in Year 2 under his leadership, and the former Weber State coach is expected to get a really long look to fill the opening at Utah State, which is 1-5 under interim Nate Dreiling, who walked into a difficult situation after Blake Anderson’s summer firing."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/585079 ... gs-upsets/

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Jay Hill is my number 1 choice.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » October 18th, 2024, 11:30 am

GeoAg wrote:
Eternal Aggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 11:03 am
From the Athletic today:

"BYU defensive coordinator Jay Hill’s side of the ball has taken a big leap in Year 2 under his leadership, and the former Weber State coach is expected to get a really long look to fill the opening at Utah State, which is 1-5 under interim Nate Dreiling, who walked into a difficult situation after Blake Anderson’s summer firing."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/585079 ... gs-upsets/

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Jay Hill is my number 1 choice.

Mine too. I have little confidence he will get the job, if he even wants it under this administration, but I would love Jay to lead the Aggie program.

That being said I would also love to pry Coach Ken N from San Jose. He’s a great leader of men and has shown he is not tied to the triple option. He can assemble a good staff and is well respected.

EngineeringAggie · Post by **EngineeringAggie** » October 18th, 2024, 11:31 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:59 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 10:49 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2024, 6:51 pm
It seems the Jay Hill fan club continues to grow. No offense to him but I would have only wanted him in the same role he is already in as DC, so in that regard the ship has sailed.

As for HC, I would hope we have our sights set a bit higher than Jay Hill (or Matt Wells). I would love to see either involved in the program in some other capacity but I realize that is probably a pipe dream.

I really think we might be underestimating how successful Jay could be. He knows how to win. And he’s on a short list of guys who would most likely stay around for awhile. I think it’s well known he really doesn’t care to leave Utah—-my guess unless it was a perfect P5 head coach offer.
Those on the Jay Hill bandwagon, who do you think his coordinators would be?

I might be crazy, but I wouldn’t be too opposed to have Dreiling stay as the defensive coordinator. I know our defense has been bad, but for some reason I still like Dreiling.

I don’t totally know who Hill is close with in FCS, but I wonder if he would pull an FCS head coach up to be a coordinator like he did with byu. It’s hard to say though because half of the FCS coaches are failed FBS coordinators.

I also wonder if he would bring Kelly Poppinga. I’d prefer to have somebody that has coordinator experience though, and we probably don’t need any more byu guys.

This question is probably Hill’s biggest hurdle in getting the job. If he shows DS that he has some guys that are competent and capable then the job should be his.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm

Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » October 18th, 2024, 12:50 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???

We want to keep the coach of the worst Defense in the country?

coolag · Post by **coolag** » October 18th, 2024, 12:52 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:50 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???
We want to keep the coach of the worst Defense in the country?

His scheme is terrible and the d is not getting any better. No thanks.

bwcrc · Post by **bwcrc** » October 18th, 2024, 1:37 pm

coolag wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:52 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:50 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???
We want to keep the coach of the worst Defense in the country?
His scheme is terrible and the d is not getting any better. No thanks.

Is it more scheme or personnel?

ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » October 18th, 2024, 1:38 pm

Not interested in KC as the OC

Post by **GeoAg** » October 18th, 2024, 2:02 pm

bwcrc wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 1:37 pm

coolag wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:52 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:50 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???
We want to keep the coach of the worst Defense in the country?
His scheme is terrible and the d is not getting any better. No thanks.
Is it more scheme or personnel?

Yes

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » October 18th, 2024, 2:05 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Jay Hill - Head Coach
Dreiling - DC
Cefalo - OC

Could this ever happen???

I don’t want our next HC to be told who to hire. I want them to be able to pick their own staff

I like Dreiling and Cefalo. But it’s tough to say “hey welcome to Utah State, here’s your staff, oh and they were hired and very loyal to a guy that we had to Fire 3 weeks before the season”

I do think it’s more reasonable to think guys Like DJ Tialavea, Cooper Bassett would be retained though.

But Coordinators will be picked by the new HC.

If Jay Hill is the guy I think we’re going to see a huge influx of guys coming back that we previously had either as players or coaches.

My guess?

Jay Hill -HC
Fesi Sitake as the OC (maybe Chuckie

)
then one of Lewis Powell, Colton Swan, Luther Elias or Sione Po’uha as the DC.

I also think we may see some combination of the Bojay, Al Lapuaho, etc. come back and jump on the staff.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am

For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » October 19th, 2024, 7:39 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am
For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.

Does Boise have an offense that will Gouge your eyes out? Did Utah with Rising healthy and going to rose bowls? What about current byu?

All three of those play the style that I imagine Hill would bring in.

You can play a physical, ball control, power style offense and still put up points. You don’t need to pick between the two.

We have a fun flashy, finesse style and put up a lot of points. Are we having fun? Did we have fun when Weber State came into our own building. Held our fun offense to zero points? Idk about you but I didn’t have a lot of fun the last two 6-7 seasons. We had a fun style of offense. Lost to any half decent team we played.

Even In 2021, we lost to basically any and all physical teams. We lost to a bad Boise state team at home. We lost to Wyoming by a billion, at home. Sure we won the conference but if we want to be objective we probably weren’t the best team in the league. We got extremely lucky against Colorado State. Barely beat a bad UNLV team. It was a fluke hear(still very much counts) but it’s not evidence that style is sustainable.

We’ve been spending over a decade now chasing points instead of wins. I’m ready to start going after wins.

Do you know what Jay Hill does? Wins.

Oh and one last thing.

Before anyone says “oh we can’t get the same players as those schools so we can’t play that way”. Go look at our offensive line recruiting rankings. They’re very very similar or at minimum on par with Boise State. Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado can produce a lot of FBS lineman. We just need to develop them. (I think Bassett actually is).

Oh and we have the best WR in the conference in our team. And maybe the 2nd best RB on our team. We can get talent to Utah State. That excuse doesn’t work.

Post by **GeoAg** » October 19th, 2024, 8:04 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:39 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am
For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.
Does Boise have an offense that will Gouge your eyes out? Did Utah with Rising healthy and going to rose bowls? What about current byu?

All three of those play the style that I imagine Hill would bring in.

You can play a physical, ball control, power style offense and still put up points. You don’t need to pick between the two.

We have a fun flashy, finesse style and put up a lot of points. Are we having fun? Did we have fun when Weber State came into our own building. Held our fun offense to zero points? Idk about you but I didn’t have a lot of fun the last two 6-7 seasons. We had a fun style of offense. Lost to any half decent team we played.

Even In 2021, we lost to basically any and all physical teams. We lost to a bad Boise state team at home. We lost to Wyoming by a billion, at home. Sure we won the conference but if we want to be objective we probably weren’t the best team in the league. We got extremely lucky against Colorado State. Barely beat a bad UNLV team. It was a fluke hear(still very much counts) but it’s not evidence that style is sustainable.

We’ve been spending over a decade now chasing points instead of wins. I’m ready to start going after wins.

Do you know what Jay Hill does? Wins.

Oh and one last thing.

Before anyone says “oh we can’t get the same players as those schools so we can’t play that way”. Go look at our offensive line recruiting rankings. They’re very very similar or at minimum on par with Boise State. Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado can produce a lot of FBS lineman. We just need to develop them. (I think Bassett actually is).

Oh and we have the best WR in the conference in our team. And maybe the 2nd best RB on our team. We can get talent to Utah State. That excuse doesn’t work.

Love this post!

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » October 19th, 2024, 10:19 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 8:04 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:39 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am
For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.
Does Boise have an offense that will Gouge your eyes out? Did Utah with Rising healthy and going to rose bowls? What about current byu?

All three of those play the style that I imagine Hill would bring in.

You can play a physical, ball control, power style offense and still put up points. You don’t need to pick between the two.

We have a fun flashy, finesse style and put up a lot of points. Are we having fun? Did we have fun when Weber State came into our own building. Held our fun offense to zero points? Idk about you but I didn’t have a lot of fun the last two 6-7 seasons. We had a fun style of offense. Lost to any half decent team we played.

Even In 2021, we lost to basically any and all physical teams. We lost to a bad Boise state team at home. We lost to Wyoming by a billion, at home. Sure we won the conference but if we want to be objective we probably weren’t the best team in the league. We got extremely lucky against Colorado State. Barely beat a bad UNLV team. It was a fluke hear(still very much counts) but it’s not evidence that style is sustainable.

We’ve been spending over a decade now chasing points instead of wins. I’m ready to start going after wins.

Do you know what Jay Hill does? Wins.

Oh and one last thing.

Before anyone says “oh we can’t get the same players as those schools so we can’t play that way”. Go look at our offensive line recruiting rankings. They’re very very similar or at minimum on par with Boise State. Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado can produce a lot of FBS lineman. We just need to develop them. (I think Bassett actually is).

Oh and we have the best WR in the conference in our team. And maybe the 2nd best RB on our team. We can get talent to Utah State. That excuse doesn’t work.
Love this post!

Agree, even in 2018 with the most prolific offense in school history and a qb who is now one of the best in the nfl we couldn’t get it done against teams like Boise. Defense first.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » October 19th, 2024, 10:41 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 10:19 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 8:04 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:39 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am
For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.
Does Boise have an offense that will Gouge your eyes out? Did Utah with Rising healthy and going to rose bowls? What about current byu?

All three of those play the style that I imagine Hill would bring in.

You can play a physical, ball control, power style offense and still put up points. You don’t need to pick between the two.

We have a fun flashy, finesse style and put up a lot of points. Are we having fun? Did we have fun when Weber State came into our own building. Held our fun offense to zero points? Idk about you but I didn’t have a lot of fun the last two 6-7 seasons. We had a fun style of offense. Lost to any half decent team we played.

Even In 2021, we lost to basically any and all physical teams. We lost to a bad Boise state team at home. We lost to Wyoming by a billion, at home. Sure we won the conference but if we want to be objective we probably weren’t the best team in the league. We got extremely lucky against Colorado State. Barely beat a bad UNLV team. It was a fluke hear(still very much counts) but it’s not evidence that style is sustainable.

We’ve been spending over a decade now chasing points instead of wins. I’m ready to start going after wins.

Do you know what Jay Hill does? Wins.

Oh and one last thing.

Before anyone says “oh we can’t get the same players as those schools so we can’t play that way”. Go look at our offensive line recruiting rankings. They’re very very similar or at minimum on par with Boise State. Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado can produce a lot of FBS lineman. We just need to develop them. (I think Bassett actually is).

Oh and we have the best WR in the conference in our team. And maybe the 2nd best RB on our team. We can get talent to Utah State. That excuse doesn’t work.
Love this post!
Agree, even in 2018 with the most prolific offense in school history and a qb who is now one of the best in the nfl we couldn’t get it done against teams like Boise. Defense first.

And the one year that we have beat Boise in modern history, it took 7 turnovers to do it.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » October 19th, 2024, 11:28 am

I’d take ball control offense and mean, nasty defense any day if it adds up to more wins and championships.

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OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 19th, 2024, 12:55 pm

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:39 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
October 19th, 2024, 7:16 am
For those on the Jay Hill train, did you watch Weber State? Those teams were unwatchable. The best way to describe them is boring as hell. The D was awesome, special teams were off the charts, but the offense was Ron McBride bad.

He is a GREAT coordinator, but be prepared for ball control, no risk offense that will make you gouge your eyes out, or fall asleep.
Does Boise have an offense that will Gouge your eyes out? Did Utah with Rising healthy and going to rose bowls? What about current byu?

All three of those play the style that I imagine Hill would bring in.

You can play a physical, ball control, power style offense and still put up points. You don’t need to pick between the two.

We have a fun flashy, finesse style and put up a lot of points. Are we having fun? Did we have fun when Weber State came into our own building. Held our fun offense to zero points? Idk about you but I didn’t have a lot of fun the last two 6-7 seasons. We had a fun style of offense. Lost to any half decent team we played.

Even In 2021, we lost to basically any and all physical teams. We lost to a bad Boise state team at home. We lost to Wyoming by a billion, at home. Sure we won the conference but if we want to be objective we probably weren’t the best team in the league. We got extremely lucky against Colorado State. Barely beat a bad UNLV team. It was a fluke hear(still very much counts) but it’s not evidence that style is sustainable.

We’ve been spending over a decade now chasing points instead of wins. I’m ready to start going after wins.

Do you know what Jay Hill does? Wins.

Oh and one last thing.

Before anyone says “oh we can’t get the same players as those schools so we can’t play that way”. Go look at our offensive line recruiting rankings. They’re very very similar or at minimum on par with Boise State. Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado can produce a lot of FBS lineman. We just need to develop them. (I think Bassett actually is).

Oh and we have the best WR in the conference in our team. And maybe the 2nd best RB on our team. We can get talent to Utah State. That excuse doesn’t work.

Brian Harsin led teams have both. Smash mouth defense and creative offensives. He's a better candidate than Hill. There's probably a half dozen other guys as well but everyone gets titillated by the local guy.

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