Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

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Post by NowhereLandAggie » August 9th, 2024, 10:30 am

For Betsy Cantwell and Diana Sabau.

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commenta ... hange-usu/

He said the family just made another large donation to the University.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Slim80 » August 9th, 2024, 10:36 am

Can you summarize the letter for those of us stopped by the pay wall?



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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by rAggie » August 9th, 2024, 10:36 am

Where the one donor we have who moves the needle goes, I will follow.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by shoresy » August 9th, 2024, 10:41 am

You know what, if Jim Laub is in, I'm in. I can't remember the last time he had poor judgement in regards to the people we should employ and their character...

...oh wait...
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Post by shoresy » August 9th, 2024, 10:42 am

If someone who was on the search committee for both of the people we're talking about is on board, obviously we all should be
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by josephconlin » August 9th, 2024, 10:42 am

rAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 10:36 am
Where the one donor we have who moves the needle goes, I will follow.
That's an interesting new perspective on the phrase "Follow the money" for me. For some reason, it made me think of this.

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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Blue Sage » August 9th, 2024, 10:43 am

Though I’m am grateful for Jim Laub it will take more than what has been shared to turn my back on people I respect. So I plan to be slow to judge.


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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Hoot » August 9th, 2024, 11:01 am

Well this has triggered definitely-not-Ethan so that lends it some credibility.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by AggiePharm » August 9th, 2024, 11:15 am

The important snippets from the letter:

"It's time for things to change at Utah State University... For nearly a decade, stories of inappropriate behavior and lack or corrective action have tarnished the reputation of our football program and the university we all love...

As a former member of the USU Board of Trustees, and as someone who proudly served on the search committee for both the current university president and the athletic director, I can confidently tell you that they are the right people for the job and are doing exactly what we hired them to do -- right this ship and work to restore the reputation of Utah State University...

While all the facts regarding the recent employment changes in athletics aren't public, we need to be slow to judge and quick to support them in the jobs we hired them to do... President Cantwell and Athletic Director Sabau inherited a difficult situation and deserve the support of all of Aggie Nation.

As a final note, my family recently made the largest pledge to USU Athletics in Aggie history. We were proud to do so, and we look forward to continuing our support and commitments to Utah State University."
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by NowhereLandAggie » August 9th, 2024, 11:23 am

Slim80 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 10:36 am
Can you summarize the letter for those of us stopped by the pay wall?
He stated changes were necessary and that the culture around athletics has been rife with scandals. He supports what the two at the top (Sabau and Cantwell) are doing to clean things up.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Madmartigan » August 9th, 2024, 11:23 am

Good advice from Jimmy Boy:

"While all the facts regarding the recent employment changes in athletics aren’t public, we need to be slow to judge and quick to support them in the jobs we hired them to do."
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Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 12:59 pm

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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Donman » August 9th, 2024, 1:33 pm

I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by JonnyCienPesos » August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm

Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Donman » August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 1:51 pm

Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
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Post by JonnyCienPesos » August 9th, 2024, 2:00 pm

Imakeitrain wrote:
Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
I don’t see what that has to do with anything here. Calling Laub a hypocrite (which he's not) doesn’t change the facts.


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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by rAggie » August 9th, 2024, 2:10 pm

Tying the return of GA to Mr. Laub is not accurate. I would dare say Mr. Laub has never forced the university to hire anyone.

Advise? Absolutely. Serve on committees? Of course.

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Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 2:12 pm

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 2:00 pm
Imakeitrain wrote:
Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
I don’t see what that has to do with anything here. Calling Laub a hypocrite (which he's not) doesn’t change the facts.


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He’s saying it’s about culture. It’s perfectly fair to point out actions speak louder than words.



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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 2:15 pm

rAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 2:10 pm
Tying the return of GA to Mr. Laub is not accurate. I would dare say Mr. Laub has never forced the university to hire anyone.

Advise? Absolutely. Serve on committees? Of course.

John Hartwell hired GA 2.
“Advise”



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Post by WAAggie » August 9th, 2024, 2:44 pm

Some of you will never end your rants, personal hatred and lack of trust with either side. Enjoy your anger and opinions.

Football starts soon and I’m excited to see the new product on the field and we have what could shake out to be a fun, competitive bball team.

Go Aggies.


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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 2:55 pm

WAAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 2:44 pm
Some of you will never end your rants, personal hatred and lack of trust with either side. Enjoy your anger and opinions.

Football starts soon and I’m excited to see the new product on the field and we have what could shake out to be a fun, competitive bball team.

Go Aggies.


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This is why I don’t trust the “it’s for the culture” side.


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I have more receipts.

But it’s pretty rich coming from the guy who is “sorry some of us wear Aggie blue” for not crying over an ear.
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Post by USU78 » August 9th, 2024, 2:55 pm

Imakeitrain wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:51 pm
Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.
I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
It's not. It's Campus adjacent.
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Post by Imakeitrain » August 9th, 2024, 3:03 pm

USU78 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 2:55 pm
Imakeitrain wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:51 pm
Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.
I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
It's not. It's Campus adjacent.
They’re still recognized on campus after Jason Relopez.



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Post by The Old Bull » August 9th, 2024, 3:04 pm

rAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 10:36 am
Where the one donor we have who moves the needle goes, I will follow.
Why would you have to follow money, weren't you already there?

Yes, he/she with the most money always makes the best choices... follow them. ;)



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Post by USU78 » August 9th, 2024, 3:08 pm

Imakeitrain wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:03 pm
USU78 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 2:55 pm
Imakeitrain wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:51 pm
Donman wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:42 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.
I actually disagree that everyone feel we had an issue. If they don't want anyone accountable then they don't believe we had one.

Frankly some of the things I've read are downright sexist.
I ask again (since long before Laub made his support public) who brought Gary Andersen back, not just twice but a third time?

Yeah, it’s about culture, sure.

Why is Sigma Chi still on campus?
It's not. It's Campus adjacent.
They’re still recognized on campus after Jason Relopez.
True enough. As a Pike I've no dog in the hunt.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by shoresy » August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.



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Post by Aggies1888 » August 9th, 2024, 3:31 pm

shoresy wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Wasn't enough, the DOJ is still up our asses. They just extended a year, they're not satisfied the issues are corrected. Until they are, I'd expect a zero tolerance policy. It sucks, but past issues got us here. I don't blindly trust the university by any means, but things obviously still needed to change.

I have a daughter that is a current student, interacts with a bunch of different athletic teams in her role on campus. She tells me it's common knowledge you stay away from the football players, said that's not the case with other sports. Pretty telling and sad. That's still a problem, IMO.
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Post by JonnyCienPesos » August 9th, 2024, 3:35 pm

shoresy wrote:
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Yeah. Ok. Sure.


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Post by Slim80 » August 9th, 2024, 3:58 pm

Aggies1888 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:31 pm
shoresy wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Wasn't enough, the DOJ is still up our asses. They just extended a year, they're not satisfied the issues are corrected. Until they are, I'd expect a zero tolerance policy. It sucks, but past issues got us here. I don't blindly trust the university by any means, but things obviously still needed to change.

I have a daughter that is a current student, interacts with a bunch of different athletic teams in her role on campus. She tells me it's common knowledge you stay away from the football players, said that's not the case with other sports. Pretty telling and sad. That's still a problem, IMO.
That is terribly disappointing and not okay. If there are others in the program who are enabling this type of behavior then I hope they are shown the door. I hope Coach Dreiling can be a catalyst for change within the program. It needs to change much much sooner than later.
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Post by Jjoey52 » August 9th, 2024, 6:37 pm

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You know what, if Jim Laub is in, I'm in. I can't remember the last time he had poor judgement in regards to the people we should employ and their character...

...oh wait...
I do, don’t forget GA 2.0, he was key in that hire.
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Post by GameFAQSAggie » August 9th, 2024, 7:50 pm

Aggies1888 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:31 pm
shoresy wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Wasn't enough, the DOJ is still up our asses. They just extended a year, they're not satisfied the issues are corrected. Until they are, I'd expect a zero tolerance policy. It sucks, but past issues got us here. I don't blindly trust the university by any means, but things obviously still needed to change.

I have a daughter that is a current student, interacts with a bunch of different athletic teams in her role on campus. She tells me it's common knowledge you stay away from the football players, said that's not the case with other sports. Pretty telling and sad. That's still a problem, IMO.
Hopefully your daughter gets the chance to ask the soccer coach Manny Martins about what happened when his mom got a flat tire.



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Post by Hoot » August 9th, 2024, 10:09 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 7:50 pm
Aggies1888 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:31 pm
shoresy wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Wasn't enough, the DOJ is still up our asses. They just extended a year, they're not satisfied the issues are corrected. Until they are, I'd expect a zero tolerance policy. It sucks, but past issues got us here. I don't blindly trust the university by any means, but things obviously still needed to change.

I have a daughter that is a current student, interacts with a bunch of different athletic teams in her role on campus. She tells me it's common knowledge you stay away from the football players, said that's not the case with other sports. Pretty telling and sad. That's still a problem, IMO.
Hopefully your daughter gets the chance to ask the soccer coach Manny Martins about what happened when his mom got a flat tire.
Blake helped them change it then followed them home and camped in the front yard until they’d agree to sell their house to him.
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Re: Jim Laub writes letter of support in SL Tribune

Post by Aggies1888 » August 9th, 2024, 11:32 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 7:50 pm
Aggies1888 wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:31 pm
shoresy wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 3:15 pm
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
August 9th, 2024, 1:35 pm
Donman wrote:I appreciate him acknowledging we have an issue.

We do.
Everyone acknowledges we had serious issues. Strangely, however, nobody wanted anyone to get fired. It’s weird.


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Everyone who needed to be fired because of the issues you speak of had already been fired or was employed elsewhere before July 1.
Wasn't enough, the DOJ is still up our asses. They just extended a year, they're not satisfied the issues are corrected. Until they are, I'd expect a zero tolerance policy. It sucks, but past issues got us here. I don't blindly trust the university by any means, but things obviously still needed to change.

I have a daughter that is a current student, interacts with a bunch of different athletic teams in her role on campus. She tells me it's common knowledge you stay away from the football players, said that's not the case with other sports. Pretty telling and sad. That's still a problem, IMO.
Hopefully your daughter gets the chance to ask the soccer coach Manny Martins about what happened when his mom got a flat tire.
Yes, both can be true at the same time.



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