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KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
Kind of Aggie Related as we have an away game with one, but apparently they will be featured on the CW with preferential game times and a nation wide audience: https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/ore ... %20package.
Not sure how I feel about the CW, hey at least it's not a paid channel for most basic subscriptions
This also kind of makes me wonder if they PAC2 will attempt to stay independent of the MWC and just keep a scheduling alliance with us and the WCC for Oly sports. I wouldn't put it past them, and it wouldn't bother me either.
Not sure how I feel about the CW, hey at least it's not a paid channel for most basic subscriptions
This also kind of makes me wonder if they PAC2 will attempt to stay independent of the MWC and just keep a scheduling alliance with us and the WCC for Oly sports. I wouldn't put it past them, and it wouldn't bother me either.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close
Whatever. Let them live on the myth that they can make it happen in a two team conference.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
Both the MWC and the PAC-2 have to make a deal by 2026. Right now, both sides have to play out their current deals. CW and the PAC2 made a deal which may have opened the door for both the MWC and PAC-2 for long-term large media deal with the CW.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
I think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
They could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
What would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
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This is a good question. There is a reason that we'll accomodate them. Because they're paying us. Now, we have two options. 1. Get paid and continue to accomodate their spoiled attitude. Or 2. blackball them and get them to face reality where they need us.Tetonkatest wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:30 pmWhat would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
Unfortunately, I believe we'll choose door #1. What we all need is that door #2 is chosen so that we can finally work together and not as two different "conferences". Afterall, we're all in the same shoes, it's just that they don't want to face the reality because they're spoiled.
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YUP there it is^^^^^^ We accommodated ybu because it was good for our bottom line like it or not. The Cougs and the Beavs might be in far away land, but they do have good fan bases that pack stadiums and get a TV audience. It makes sense for us to continue to play them even if it's an indy-type of schedule for them. I get that they wouldn't have a conference championship game, nor would they have automatic access to our bowl games, but is that really such a bad thing for them? It kind of worked out for ybu all the years they were indy, granted the had to play is some pretty lame bowl games that were kind of far off, but they still got bowl games. I would imagine it won't be hard for them to weasel in ours anyway. I bet they could easily get a Hawaii Bowl if Hawaii isn't eligible, like ybu was able to do one year.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:51 pmThis is a good question. There is a reason that we'll accomodate them. Because they're paying us. Now, we have two options. 1. Get paid and continue to accomodate their spoiled attitude. Or 2. blackball them and get them to face reality where they need us.Tetonkatest wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:30 pmWhat would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
Unfortunately, I believe we'll choose door #1. What we all need is that door #2 is chosen so that we can finally work together and not as two different "conferences". Afterall, we're all in the same shoes, it's just that they don't want to face the reality because they're spoiled.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
Adding schools that can compete at our level is good for the MWC. I think they’re better than the average in the mwc and therefore will help raise the competition level, fan support and funding of the mwc.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
And I hear they are paying a lot per game - much more than the usual money game. I don't mind taking their money since we would be playing a money game anyway. (Please let me know if that is not the case.)
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
The CW? Is the football TV slot before or after Dawson's Creek reruns?
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Hey,, take it easy, Tree. Dawson, Joey, Pacey and Jen helped me work through some difficult times 25 years ago. Especially Jen.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
Paula Cole could perform at halftime of the Gilmore Bowl. The CW could leverage some of their franchises for this football deal.
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The CW is the result of a merger between the WB and UPN. CBS effectively owned the WB so they just took the C from CBS and added it to the Warner to make it the "CW" or essentially "Columbia-Warner"
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
I'm going to respectfully disagree. If we hold a gun to their heads and force them to join the conference, they will always resent it. They'll be like SDSU and Boise, only worse. On the other hand, their current situation is not sustainable in the long term. They have to actually be in a conference of at least 8 teams to get the benefits of conference membership in the NCAA, like NCAA basketball autobids, etc. If we don't force it, eventually they will ask to join. Their situation is not like the BYU situation with the MWC. The landscape has changed.ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 5:36 pmYUP there it is^^^^^^ We accommodated ybu because it was good for our bottom line like it or not. The Cougs and the Beavs might be in far away land, but they do have good fan bases that pack stadiums and get a TV audience. It makes sense for us to continue to play them even if it's an indy-type of schedule for them. I get that they wouldn't have a conference championship game, nor would they have automatic access to our bowl games, but is that really such a bad thing for them? It kind of worked out for ybu all the years they were indy, granted the had to play is some pretty lame bowl games that were kind of far off, but they still got bowl games. I would imagine it won't be hard for them to weasel in ours anyway. I bet they could easily get a Hawaii Bowl if Hawaii isn't eligible, like ybu was able to do one year.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:51 pmThis is a good question. There is a reason that we'll accomodate them. Because they're paying us. Now, we have two options. 1. Get paid and continue to accomodate their spoiled attitude. Or 2. blackball them and get them to face reality where they need us.Tetonkatest wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:30 pmWhat would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
Unfortunately, I believe we'll choose door #1. What we all need is that door #2 is chosen so that we can finally work together and not as two different "conferences". Afterall, we're all in the same shoes, it's just that they don't want to face the reality because they're spoiled.
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If they agree to join up with us it's going to include a whole host of caveats including the right for them to bail w/o a moments notice w/o fee or penalty, etc. Bank on that much.LKGates wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2024, 8:39 pmI'm going to respectfully disagree. If we hold a gun to their heads and force them to join the conference, they will always resent it. They'll be like SDSU and Boise, only worse. On the other hand, their current situation is not sustainable in the long term. They have to actually be in a conference of at least 8 teams to get the benefits of conference membership in the NCAA, like NCAA basketball autobids, etc. If we don't force it, eventually they will ask to join. Their situation is not like the BYU situation with the MWC. The landscape has changed.ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 5:36 pmYUP there it is^^^^^^ We accommodated ybu because it was good for our bottom line like it or not. The Cougs and the Beavs might be in far away land, but they do have good fan bases that pack stadiums and get a TV audience. It makes sense for us to continue to play them even if it's an indy-type of schedule for them. I get that they wouldn't have a conference championship game, nor would they have automatic access to our bowl games, but is that really such a bad thing for them? It kind of worked out for ybu all the years they were indy, granted the had to play is some pretty lame bowl games that were kind of far off, but they still got bowl games. I would imagine it won't be hard for them to weasel in ours anyway. I bet they could easily get a Hawaii Bowl if Hawaii isn't eligible, like ybu was able to do one year.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:51 pmThis is a good question. There is a reason that we'll accomodate them. Because they're paying us. Now, we have two options. 1. Get paid and continue to accomodate their spoiled attitude. Or 2. blackball them and get them to face reality where they need us.Tetonkatest wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:30 pmWhat would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
Unfortunately, I believe we'll choose door #1. What we all need is that door #2 is chosen so that we can finally work together and not as two different "conferences". Afterall, we're all in the same shoes, it's just that they don't want to face the reality because they're spoiled.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
Then we just say no thanks.ViAggie wrote:If they agree to join up with us it's going to include a whole host of caveats including the right for them to bail w/o a moments notice w/o fee or penalty, etc. Bank on that much.LKGates wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2024, 8:39 pmI'm going to respectfully disagree. If we hold a gun to their heads and force them to join the conference, they will always resent it. They'll be like SDSU and Boise, only worse. On the other hand, their current situation is not sustainable in the long term. They have to actually be in a conference of at least 8 teams to get the benefits of conference membership in the NCAA, like NCAA basketball autobids, etc. If we don't force it, eventually they will ask to join. Their situation is not like the BYU situation with the MWC. The landscape has changed.ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 5:36 pmYUP there it is^^^^^^ We accommodated ybu because it was good for our bottom line like it or not. The Cougs and the Beavs might be in far away land, but they do have good fan bases that pack stadiums and get a TV audience. It makes sense for us to continue to play them even if it's an indy-type of schedule for them. I get that they wouldn't have a conference championship game, nor would they have automatic access to our bowl games, but is that really such a bad thing for them? It kind of worked out for ybu all the years they were indy, granted the had to play is some pretty lame bowl games that were kind of far off, but they still got bowl games. I would imagine it won't be hard for them to weasel in ours anyway. I bet they could easily get a Hawaii Bowl if Hawaii isn't eligible, like ybu was able to do one year.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:51 pmThis is a good question. There is a reason that we'll accomodate them. Because they're paying us. Now, we have two options. 1. Get paid and continue to accomodate their spoiled attitude. Or 2. blackball them and get them to face reality where they need us.Tetonkatest wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:30 pmWhat would be the benefit of the MWC to accommodate them, so they can have an independent football schedule?ViAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:19 pmThey could stay in the WCC for Oly Sports and go semi-indy for FB with a scheduling alliance with the MWC. It's weird but it allows them to keep the PAC name for FB at least. Or they'll merge w/the MWC, who knows?AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑May 1st, 2024, 4:09 pmI think the Pac2 will be excluded from NCAA post season play after 2 years unless they get their conference numbers up. Or something like that.
I mean, I guess the MWC sort of did that for BYU. But that's because Boise and USU wanted the games. But why Wazzu and Oregon State?
Unfortunately, I believe we'll choose door #1. What we all need is that door #2 is chosen so that we can finally work together and not as two different "conferences". Afterall, we're all in the same shoes, it's just that they don't want to face the reality because they're spoiled.
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Re: KAR - PAC2 TV deal close (older news but not sure if I saw posted here)
I agree with this. If the PAC-2 have demands, walk away and wish them well. If the PAC-2 want a preview of their future they can look to Temple, UConn, and USF as members of a BCS conference that evaporated. The only concern I have is the SDSU, Boise, and Colorado State’s of the world might want to create a best of the rest conference. I don’t think it’s likely because I don’t think there is enough money to make up for increased expenses.pilotaggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2024, 4:55 pmThen we just say no thanks.ViAggie wrote:If they agree to join up with us it's going to include a whole host of caveats including the right for them to bail w/o a moments notice w/o fee or penalty, etc. Bank on that much.
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