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I don't mean to be disrespectful or rude, but the dude hasn't shown that he's very good. Blake must see something in him, though.
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In fairness to Conover, ASU was really bad. The two games he made an appearance in was a 29-0 loss to Fresno and a 55-3 loss to Utah. He threw 2 picks against Fresno but the other two ASU qb’s that played in that same game threw 2 ints and 1 int each. I’m not sure how good he is but wouldn’t be a bad option for 3rd string.SLB wrote:Last season
11/38 and 3 INTs
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Let me get this straight: he transferred from byu to ASU last year, but his Twitter profile pic and banner are both of him in a byu uniform? At least be in the moment, my guy.
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Is his fiancée out of eligibility? She was all-sec defense in soccer last season at Florida. She is listed as a Rs-Sr on the Gators site but maybe she has a COVID year available?
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If a guy is good enough to be signed by byu and asu, he must have some sills/abilities.
As a Grad X-fer, and as long as he is coming in with eyes wide open and an understanding of the QB landscape at Utah State, I really do not have a problem with it. It is a one year deal.
As a Grad X-fer, and as long as he is coming in with eyes wide open and an understanding of the QB landscape at Utah State, I really do not have a problem with it. It is a one year deal.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
100% agree. We need someone capable who might be able to step in should it come to that.RogerAndersen wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:53 pmIf a guy is good enough to be signed by byu and asu, he must have some sills/abilities.
As a Grad X-fer, and as long as he is coming in with eyes wide open and an understanding of the QB landscape at Utah State, I really do not have a problem with it. It is a one year deal.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
Two things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
The fact of the matter is, we have TWO quarterbacks. Not scholarship quarterbacks, TWO quarterbacks PERIOD. Spencer Petras has been named the starter. He is a 7th year senior. Bryson Barnes is a junior. The quarterback room needs to be filled up and it needs to be competitive. We've offered two quarterbacks in the last 24 hours. Jacob Conover who has 2 years to play and CJ Tiller who has four years to play. Adding both of these guys PLUS a 2025 high school kid would be our dream scenario. There HAS to be enough guys in the room to compete for the starting gig in 2025.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
I am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
It's fair to question BA's handling of a QB room, but he has proven time and again that he is an excellent evaluator of QB talent.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Prior to this year (that is still TBD), he has yet to bring in a QB that has been top 3 on the depth chart that wasn't good.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
In fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
BLUF: Hindsight allows you to ignore rational reasons people may have chosen what they did.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
NFL Doctor's had cleared Bonner, and Bonner had been structurally checked out multiple times. The belief going into the season was that Bonner was healthy and needed to come into his own.
So let's recap what REALLY happened.
UCONN: Win. Bonner did fine.
Alabama: The criticism here to me is pulling the starters too early as a team. Worthy of criticismm yes, but also defeats the narrative about Bonner.
Weber: This was objectively a very poor game. But Blake was still operating under the belief that it was more of a mental issue than a physical issue. As medical professionals said Bonner was fine.
UNLV: It was made clear going into this game by Blake that Bonner had this game to prove himself.This again was an objectively poor performance by Bonner. And then Bonner didn't play again after. People took "short leash" to mean that If Bonner made a mistake he was out. But I think when Blake prefaced and qualified the "short leash" several times how he "owes Bonner this game" going into UNLV it's not surprising he gave Bonner the game.
I do think that people underestimated UNLV. UNLV the year before was clearly on the rise, and UNLV is clearly a competitive team now.
For me I was team Peasley, largely because Bonner was constantly coming in & out of games hurt. He also tended to float an int in every game. Bonner was always an interception machine. So the drop in play though significant wasn't AS significant as people think especially given we lost 3 WRs that would go on to have some level of NFL exposure.
We look in hindsight and remember Cooper's good games but in the moment Cooper didn't play well against Alabama and outside of 1 memorable pass to a future NFLer wasn't exactly amazing against Oregon State. You aren't typically going to bench your long time starter after 1 bad game, especially when the team played poorly as a whole.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
If it helps any, I wasn't expecting much from Petras in spring ball and he was MUCH, MUCH better than I expected him to be and I'm not easy to impress.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:24 pmIn fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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I am still scratching my head, a bit, as to what scenario, exactly, Coop was expecting/hoping for.
The movements by the staff in the past couple of days tell me me that pretty much, regardless of entrenched returning starters, the coaching staff is going to add a player at every position every year.
Particularly at very key positions, like QB. As they should. Period.
Not sure if Coop is just frustrated at not immediately being named QB1. It seems like if anyone might understand the value of having capable e guys standing in the wings, it might be him.
But I get it. He wants to play and play now.
The movements by the staff in the past couple of days tell me me that pretty much, regardless of entrenched returning starters, the coaching staff is going to add a player at every position every year.
Particularly at very key positions, like QB. As they should. Period.
Not sure if Coop is just frustrated at not immediately being named QB1. It seems like if anyone might understand the value of having capable e guys standing in the wings, it might be him.
But I get it. He wants to play and play now.
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Maybe he just saw that Petras was better but didn't want to admit it openly? Maybe he's considering the academic side but hasn't mentioned that publicly. We can't assume to know what's going on in his head that may be correct besides wanting to play. Furthermore like most kids he probably wants the best chance to play at the next level. That won't happen if he doesn't see the field. Too much we don't know.RogerAndersen wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:45 pmI am still scratching my head, a bit, as to what scenario, exactly, Coop was expecting/hoping for.
The movements by the staff in the past couple of days tell me me that pretty much, regardless of entrenched returning starters, the coaching staff is going to add a player at every position every year.
Particularly at very key positions, like QB. As they should. Period.
Not sure if Coop is just frustrated at not immediately being named QB1. It seems like if anyone might understand the value of having capable e guys standing in the wings, it might be him.
But I get it. He wants to play and play now.
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One thing we do know is that BA's comment about a short leash was actually an early reference to Legas and no one else.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:56 pmMaybe he just saw that Petras was better but didn't want to admit it openly? Maybe he's considering the academic side but hasn't mentioned that publicly. We can't assume to know what's going on in his head that may be correct besides wanting to play. Furthermore like most kids he probably wants the best chance to play at the next level. That won't happen if he doesn't see the field. Too much we don't know.RogerAndersen wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:45 pmI am still scratching my head, a bit, as to what scenario, exactly, Coop was expecting/hoping for.
The movements by the staff in the past couple of days tell me me that pretty much, regardless of entrenched returning starters, the coaching staff is going to add a player at every position every year.
Particularly at very key positions, like QB. As they should. Period.
Not sure if Coop is just frustrated at not immediately being named QB1. It seems like if anyone might understand the value of having capable e guys standing in the wings, it might be him.
But I get it. He wants to play and play now.
More seriously, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Legas just wanted more stability. Based on the way he was jerked around last season, he probably realized it would happen this season and didn't want to put up with it again.
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Where is Zeke Payne? Is he safe? Is he alright?aggies22 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:59 pmThe fact of the matter is, we have TWO quarterbacks. Not scholarship quarterbacks, TWO quarterbacks PERIOD. Spencer Petras has been named the starter. He is a 7th year senior. Bryson Barnes is a junior. The quarterback room needs to be filled up and it needs to be competitive. We've offered two quarterbacks in the last 24 hours. Jacob Conover who has 2 years to play and CJ Tiller who has four years to play. Adding both of these guys PLUS a 2025 high school kid would be our dream scenario. There HAS to be enough guys in the room to compete for the starting gig in 2025.
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I think it is just a case of Coop saying enough is enough. As we all know, he's been used as a scapegoat, he's been treated unfairly when it comes to playing time or starting numerous times over several seasons, and yet he has always taken the high road and been a team player. BA has even admitted publicly that the things Coop has had to endure have not been ideal. I think through it all he has earned the respect of his teammates for simply performing the best he could when his number was called.
Watching the staff bring in not one but TWO upperclassmen and former starters at P5 programs in your final year had to be a pretty big slap to begin with but then to have it announced that you have lost your starting job (yet again) to one of the newcomers was the last straw.
I don't blame him for wanting to start somewhere for his final year. I think he hoped that he had earned that right after putting so many years into a program that he has repeatedly been there for. BA had other ideas...to exactly no ones surprise. My guess is this possibility has been lingering in Coop's mind from the day BA sought to bring Petras and others in.
Watching the staff bring in not one but TWO upperclassmen and former starters at P5 programs in your final year had to be a pretty big slap to begin with but then to have it announced that you have lost your starting job (yet again) to one of the newcomers was the last straw.
I don't blame him for wanting to start somewhere for his final year. I think he hoped that he had earned that right after putting so many years into a program that he has repeatedly been there for. BA had other ideas...to exactly no ones surprise. My guess is this possibility has been lingering in Coop's mind from the day BA sought to bring Petras and others in.
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Coop wants to play as MUCH as possible in his last season of college ball and he is such a TEAM FIRST guy, that he doesn't want to spend it hoping that Petras does poorly or god forbid gets hurt so that he would get his shot. That says a lot about the dude.RogerAndersen wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:45 pmI am still scratching my head, a bit, as to what scenario, exactly, Coop was expecting/hoping for.
The movements by the staff in the past couple of days tell me me that pretty much, regardless of entrenched returning starters, the coaching staff is going to add a player at every position every year.
Particularly at very key positions, like QB. As they should. Period.
Not sure if Coop is just frustrated at not immediately being named QB1. It seems like if anyone might understand the value of having capable e guys standing in the wings, it might be him.
But I get it. He wants to play and play now.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
In BA's coaching career, a couple of things are starting to stand out.
1. BA's teams are just not going to be very disciplined. They just are not. Often, they will be plenty skilled and capable and fun to watch. But not very disciplined.
2. There will be drama around the QB position. Perhaps this stems from time spent at the QB position in college. Or because he often insists on being his own OC. I wish he could find a capable young gun to him help build on and expand some of the innovative schemes and concepts he has and at the same time allow him to focus on overall team leadership/pep talks and game and clock management.
I believe BA is a very good coach and the right coach for us right now. But I would not mind if he expanded his view and considered switching things up a bit.
1. BA's teams are just not going to be very disciplined. They just are not. Often, they will be plenty skilled and capable and fun to watch. But not very disciplined.
2. There will be drama around the QB position. Perhaps this stems from time spent at the QB position in college. Or because he often insists on being his own OC. I wish he could find a capable young gun to him help build on and expand some of the innovative schemes and concepts he has and at the same time allow him to focus on overall team leadership/pep talks and game and clock management.
I believe BA is a very good coach and the right coach for us right now. But I would not mind if he expanded his view and considered switching things up a bit.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
Coop played a lot of football and started a lot of games for an average QB. It's weird how people think he was so unfairly treated. BA is the OC and Legas limited the playbook. He could make one read and he held the ball too long. I know his completion % is amazing throwing 1 yard screens or jump balls to our amazing receiving core. I like Legas and appreciate him as an Aggie but acting like he should be handed the starting spot with his limitations and injury history is dumb.
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I understand. Coop has often been my favorite Aggie.
In selfless manner, he has always given Utah State everything he could. The kid plays with a big heart.
That is not to say he has been John Elway or something.
If he does end up transferring to another school, I will always cheer loudly for him and wish him the best.
In selfless manner, he has always given Utah State everything he could. The kid plays with a big heart.
That is not to say he has been John Elway or something.
If he does end up transferring to another school, I will always cheer loudly for him and wish him the best.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
I don't think anyone thinks he's the most gifted QB or has shown a skill set that is far above anyone else but that doesn't mean he hasn't been treated like a fall back plan or insurance policy his entire time under BA. While his ceiling is not very high, he has a great attitude, teammates play hard for him, and he has won a lot of games as a starter. BA will have to find a new fall back plan now.TrueAG wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 3:21 pmCoop played a lot of football and started a lot of games for an average QB. It's weird how people think he was so unfairly treated. BA is the OC and Legas limited the playbook. He could make one read and he held the ball too long. I know his completion % is amazing throwing 1 yard screens or jump balls to our amazing receiving core. I like Legas and appreciate him as an Aggie but acting like he should be handed the starting spot with his limitations and injury history is dumb.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
Are you harder or easier to impress than coach Odom’s palate?aggies22 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:34 pmIf it helps any, I wasn't expecting much from Petras in spring ball and he was MUCH, MUCH better than I expected him to be and I'm not easy to impress.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:24 pmIn fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
Well-thought out and well-stated reply.
My guess is that BA will have to figure out if his plan B is up to snuff sooner rather than later especially with the schedule we start out with.
Coaching college football can be a tricky business. There are a lot of moving parts. (No pun intended)
Sometimes it requires as much faith in a bunch of crazy 18 to 23 year old kids, as a precise knowledge of the game.
My guess is that BA will have to figure out if his plan B is up to snuff sooner rather than later especially with the schedule we start out with.
Coaching college football can be a tricky business. There are a lot of moving parts. (No pun intended)
Sometimes it requires as much faith in a bunch of crazy 18 to 23 year old kids, as a precise knowledge of the game.
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I can eat the same damn thing every day. So, in terms of palate I am easier to impress than Ryan Odom. However, I'm willing to bet I know a lot more about football than he does.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 4:35 pmAre you harder or easier to impress than coach Odom’s palate?aggies22 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:34 pmIf it helps any, I wasn't expecting much from Petras in spring ball and he was MUCH, MUCH better than I expected him to be and I'm not easy to impress.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:24 pmIn fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
I have no idea about this guy other than what everyone saw in the spring. That said a strong armed accurate tall thrower should be able to thrive in Blake's Offense as its basically one RPO read and a 2 receiver read at most with the wide spreads. And he's got Royals to throw it up to when in doubt...If the QB can stay healthy. If the Aggies can keep 2 of the 3 good backs it really should open that RPO right up for him too.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 5:03 pmI can eat the same damn thing every day. So, in terms of palate I am easier to impress than Ryan Odom. However, I'm willing to bet I know a lot more about football than he does.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 4:35 pmAre you harder or easier to impress than coach Odom’s palate?aggies22 wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:34 pmIf it helps any, I wasn't expecting much from Petras in spring ball and he was MUCH, MUCH better than I expected him to be and I'm not easy to impress.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:24 pmIn fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
Re: Transfer QB Offer
Coop should stay. With our history with our offensive line we will have most of our QBs get banged up. He will get playing time. Last year we had to play our 4th string QB!
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Blake denying Legas return request:
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
I was at the "light practice" or scrimmage two weeks ago. Petras was fantastic and was in charge of the offense, or what little they played of it in the scrimmage. I think this offense will allow his skill set to exposed.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:24 pmIn fairness to Petras, I'll take this moment to acknowledge that a strong offense has not been at the top of Iowa's priority list. I worry about the gap year, but am hopeful he has the skillset to vastly outperform his historicals while competing in the Mountian West.AgTime wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:06 pmI am thankful to Coop for what he gave this program. He was a warrior and deserves success going forward. That said, I believe Petras will get it done and was the right choice through the spring competition. Legas never would have earned QB1 status at Iowa, I don’t care the circumstances. The raw ability from one to the other is just different.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Beyond Petras however, we will need good game management from those backups.
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I like the signing and have been wondering who we would pick up. Not sure it will break great but I think there is upside. As for Blake and the QB room I think everyone agrees he went with Bonner too long in season 2. Other than that, I have no issues with the way he has managed the QB room. And I think he has done very well with QB's and the offense.
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Re: Transfer QB Offer
I was about to say the same thing. It's also important to point out that even with all the quarterback drama, we have had great quarterback play for the past 3 years. At the end of the day, that's what matters.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 1:08 pmIt's fair to question BA's handling of a QB room, but he has proven time and again that he is an excellent evaluator of QB talent.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑April 30th, 2024, 12:57 pmTwo things I never have confidence in when it comes to BA, both of which have been ongoing issues since he arrived in Logan:
1. Anything QB related. Way too many examples of missteps by Blake to list here. Most notably, continuing to start a visibly injured Bonner over Coop and then having the balls to say that Coop hadn't "earned" the starting spot leading into the '22 season. Don't lie to the fanbase and claim Bonner was full strength in spring/summer headed into '22. The dude was still rehabing from his surgery. There was no real QB battle. Blake's blind loyalty is his worst quality as a coach.
2. His inability to get a team to play with any discipline. The yards we've given up over three seasons for selfish and stupid penalties is truly astounding. It hasn't improved and I doubt it will. The guy is not a disciplinarian and has no desire to be one.
Back to the topic at hand... QUARTERBACKS.
Conover through 3 years:
2021: 5/10, 50% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2022: 0/1, 0% completeion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2023: 11/38, 28% completion rate, 0 TDs / 3 INTs
Barnes through 3 years:
2021: 2/2, 100% completion rate, 1 TD / 0 INTs
2022: 37/57, 64% completion rate, 4 TDs / 2 INTs
2023: 142/242, 58% completion rate, 12 TDs / 11 INTs
Petras through 6 years:
2018: 0/1, 0% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2019: 6/10, 60% completion rate, 0 TDs / 0 INTs
2020: 140/245, 57% completion rate, 9 TDs / 5 INTs
2021: 165/288, 57% completion rate, 10 TDs / 9 INTs
2022: 157/281, 55% completion rate, 5 TDs / 5 INTs
2023: Did not play
Cross your fingers that we have a strong run game.
Prior to this year (that is still TBD), he has yet to bring in a QB that has been top 3 on the depth chart that wasn't good.
If Blake thinks that there are QB's in the portal that can perform well in our system, then I'll trust his judgement.